[2025] QCAT 286
General information, not legal advice.
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2025-07-28
Original judgment source is linked above.
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW - GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW - QUEENSLAND CIVIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE TRIBUNAL - PROCEDURE -DIRECTION TO RECTIFY - FAIRNESS - where the applicant and the second respondent entered into a contract for the repair and renovation of the roof of commercial premises constructed in 1983 - where contract was to replace like with like except for modification of the box gutter on the lower roof section - where work carried out and payment made in mid 2017 - where applicant notified of water penetration issues in January 2022 - where inspection undertaken and proposal put by the applicant at a cost to carry out some further work to address the water penetration problem - where second respondent contended the water penetration issue was the responsibility of the applicant and refused to pay for any further work - where second respondent made a complaint to the first respondent - where first respondent carried out investigations and made a decision to issue a direction to rectify to the applicant - where failure to comply with Building Code and Australian Standards in carrying out the work - where applicant contended the contract was not to bring the roof and storm water drainage up to current standards - where the applicant accepted the work under the contract did not comply with current standards - whether the applicant was required to carry out the scope of works to bring the roof and storm water drainage system up to current standards - whether it would be unfair to issue a direction to rectify in the circumstances - whether exercise of discretion favours the applicant
The boys reused the existing box gutter supports but they deepened the gutter and put in additional fall, the gutter has been installed as quoted the gutter is now narrower but deeper. I hope this clears up the issue for you.
The installation of the box gutter and stormwater drainage on eh left hand side of the lower level rooves, at the front and rear of the building, does not comply with either the NCC 2016 Building Code of Australia, Performance requirement FP1.4 - Damp and Weatherproofing, nor Australian Standard AS3500 Clauses 3.7.1 and 3.7.5.1 in that the box gutters had inadequate gradient, unsealed joints and sump seats, overflow wastes are insufficiently sized, and the front roof had insufficient cover flashings between box gutter and roof sheeting, resulting in water ponding in the box gutter and water ingress into the building causing damage to the building elements on the left hand side of the front and rear office areas during weather conditions anticipated by the NCC. Pertains to item 1 on the QBCC complaint form.
is not required to give the direction if the commission is satisfied that in the circumstances, it would be unfair to the person to give the direction.
The roof above this area including the box gutter and the depth of the box gutter is in very poor condition. The roof is beyond repair along with the box gutter on (sic) the temporary repairs have not been successful even for a brief period. The box gutter to this area is only approximately 50-60mm high which is far too small in wall height considering the box gutter does not extend up to the underside of the pan on the roof sheeting and installation is hanging in the gutter sucking water back into the building. In addition, to this the upper level roof area discharges into this box gutter which is unacceptable for the height and capacity of the box gutter in the area where the leak is occurring.[7]
It is my opinion the box gutter to the front section will need to be replaced and made deeper if possible, however, if the depth cannot be increased then a significant design under flashing will be required continually sealed into the box gutter to prevent water entry internally. In addition, the roof sheeting will need to be replaced as it cannot be repaired any longer due to its very poor condition.[8]
I recommend that we change the pitch of the roof to obtain a greater depth in the box gutter, by installing different height top hat to the existing purlins, we also narrow the width of the gutter to 600mm wide instead of the 900mm wide currently there, we install a stainless steel box gutter with conical sumps discharging into the existing stormwater system, and try to install over overflows to the gutter, this hasn't been allowed although I believe it can be achieved.[9]
A flood test was conducted was conducted to see the effectiveness of the box gutter. Water ingress was evident even when the water levels did not reach the overflow draining zone as referenced in AS3500.3 Appendix O (see FG-01).
The sump was significantly surcharging creating head pressures allowing water penetration via the sump connection to the box gutter. A condensation line was also connected to side (sic) of the downpipe which has only been sealed with a silicone based sealant additionally allowing water to enter and track down the condensation line. There was also a lap in the box gutter, and it will be alleged that the lap is not in the direction of flow as water is also entering this location (see FG - 2- and 3).[10]
The 150mm outlet for the sump above the lower rooms of Green Finance was blocked off and the sump filled with water to a depth of approximately 20mm above the top of the sump. Within 10 minutes water ingress occurred below in multiple locations with water flowing out of the sump connection to the base of the box gutter. The water was left to flow for 30 minutes into the box gutter. Within this time, water began to slowly drip out of the custom orb supports under the box gutter and into the ceiling space, indicating a second water source which is leaking onto the custom orb supports and running down toward the joint in the supports.
(a) water pooling where the join in the gutter was located;
(b) a very slow drip out of the corner of the sump area. However, the main area with water leaking was the joint in the box gutter;
(c) water dripping from multiple points within the first-floor office space; and
(d) a very slow drip out of the sump in the corner.
(a) The roof and drainage system was designed and constructed some 40 years ago and complied with the building standards at the time and certified by the Brisbane City Council.
(b) Rooftek's contract was to replace the existing roof and drainage system and not to design a whole new system to comply with current Standards.
(c) The only variation to the existing system was the narrowing and deepening of the box gutter system which was done with the approval of Mr Cavill on behalf of the Body Corporate.
(d) There had been no complaints of water penetration between mid 2017 and January 2022 when Rooftek was contacted by Toney Lacy about water penetration.
(e) When Mr Foggo inspected the roof after speaking with Toney Lacy, he observed other contractors had worked on the box gutter over sealing the joints with silicone, creating a dam like situation. There was also an air conditioner condensation distribution pipe had been plumbed into the downpipe, which was leaking.
(f) AS3500.3.2018 did not exist when the original box gutter was installed and there was no minimum gradient nor prohibition on the box gutter changing direction (as in the existing dog-leg).
(g) The inability to get greater fall in the box gutter without lowering the underlying structural supports for the gutter. Although the fall was improved as best it could be in the circumstances.
(h) He also relies on the further report of J Groom Building Consulting dated 8 May 2024 ("the third Groom report") which specifically refers Mr Groom's involvement in arranging the work for Rooftek to undertake, dealt with in more detail below.[12]
I was involved with the original report on the job and at no point was Rooftek ever contracted to change the structure. And in fact the architect for the job categorically told me on the phone and Rooftek on site that the gutter was only to be re-lined. This is what has been done based on the existing structure and the existing depth of the framing for the box cutter installation.
I am aware of and have read the contents of the STA engineering report a (sic) from my point of view the exact details in this report specific to the under size of the capacity within the existing structure is of concern however there was a clear instruction not to change the roof structure as part of the rectification works.
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Rooftek is not licensed or capable of changing the roof structure and this was never part of their works. The clear instruction on site from the architect was to re line the gutters and this was all they were prepared to do.
Upon review of the existing box gutter profiles, it is apparent that the existing bot box gutter depths are not sufficiently sized to cater for the 1% AEP storm events. Although the provided outlet down pipe specifications are sufficient, the existing gutter profiles would find it difficult to cater for large storm event flows and the installed overflow provisions inadequate to cater for larger storm events or emergency discharge. STA Consulting Engineers recommends that a full re-design of the required boxed gutters be provided and new box gutters being installed to suit current design storms or QLD.
We hereby advise that the provided documentation has been designed in compliance with Australian Standard Code AS3500 Part3, National Construction Code 2019, Plumbing and Drainage Act 2018 and Standard Building Regulation 2006.
(a) The age of the building and the need for structural modification to the underlying roof elements to achieve the necessary falls for the box gutter;
(b) The need for a complete re-design of the roof stormwater drainage system and use of box gutters by a qualified hydraulic engineer as proposed in the STA report.
(c) The scope of works under the contract agreed to by Mr Cavill;
(d) The limitations on Mr Foggo's licence which does not include a re-design of the stormwater drainage system to comply with current Standards;
(e) To a lesser extent the delay in reporting the water penetration issues and work undertaken by third parties;
(f) Also, to a lesser extent the evidence in the third Groom report about the works to be undertaken by Rooftek.
[3] Via the Body Corporate strata manager, Archer Body Corporate.
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Queensland Building and Construction Commission & Anor [2025] QCAT 286