"At some stage did you turn your back on the open area including the handball courts and the flying fox and walk somewhere? - Yes.
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> What direction did you walk? - Well, I walked in various directions from it, I'd been back to the handball courts, I didn't do a necessarily clock-wise patrol, I'd been walking round there 'cause there -
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> It was an irregular pattern, was it? - Irregular, yes.
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> Was that something you'd do every time you'd do your supervision, that sort of pattern? - Yes.
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> Was it indeed, was it necessary to turn your back on the flying fox from time to time to carry out your duties? - It was, yes.
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> Just explain why? - Well, I had to supervise the junior toilet block which is - unsights the play equipment, I was also required to look at the senior and junior toilets and the bubblers on the end of the - and all those areas necessarily cause you not to be able to see the play equipment.
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> How did you manage your resources and your time in dealing with those different areas? - I can't be exact about it but most of my time was spent where all the children were, in that handball and play equipment area.
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> On this day, as you've told us, you'd done your irregular circuits, from time to time you had your back turned to the flying fox, but did something happen that caused you [to] walk towards the Year 6 unit? - No, I just knew I had to do it, that was part of my job and that's why I went there.
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> So, you walked through that gap and did you see something as you were going towards the toilets as part of your duties?
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> MR PURNELL: Your Honour, I object to that.
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> MR GREGG: Why did you walk through the gap occasioned by the toilet block and the adjacent unit? - Because I felt I should.
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> Why? - Because it was part of my job and I thought I must go round there and just see that - that was expected of me -
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> What were you intending to look at? - The behaviour in the toilets.
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> In the course of doing that, did you see something? - I did, yes.
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> Tell His Honour what you saw? - I saw children in the Year 6 unit at the door marked 'W'.
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> On Exhibit 1? - On Exhibit 1, yes.
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> What did you do, did you say something? - I did, I tried to attract their attention and said something like, 'What are you doing there? Please come out'.
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> Where were you when you saw them, what physical position were you in? - Probably near the staff toilet door, yes.
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> So, from the - ? Yes, as I came into view of the unit I could see students in the doorway."