[2025] VSC 411
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Supreme Court of Victoria
2025-07-11
Gorton J
Original judgment source is linked above.
CRIMINAL LAW - Application for bail for offences involving violence - Where applicant has extensive criminal history, is subject to supervision order under Serious Offenders Act 2018 and is alleged to have committed Schedule 2 offences while on bail for another Schedule 2 offence - Whether applicant has significant medical issues that cannot adequately be treated in custody - Whether definition of 'vulnerable adult' is relevant to statutory tests - Where applicant has not meaningfully engaged in treatment programs and counselling offered - Where applicant's access to public housing is at risk - Where applicant's relationship with partner is not a protective factor - Where psychiatric opinion that applicant poses an ongoing risk of breaching conditions, acting impulsively, and being aggressive and violent - Where not likely period of remand would exceed any term of imprisonment imposed - Exceptional circumstances not established - Unacceptable risk of applicant committing further Schedule 1 or Schedule 2 offences or endangering public - Application for bail refused - (Vic) , , , .
B. The events of 29 February 2024 - alleged threats to kill
(a) Making a threat to kill Ms Rita Prossimo intending that she would fear that the threat would be carried out or being reckless as to whether or not she would fear that the threat would be carried out; and
(b) Making a threat to kill Mr Ross Prossimo intending that Ms Rita Prossimo would fear that the threat would be carried out or being reckless as to whether or not she would fear that the threat would be carried out.
C. The events of 26 and 27 January 2025 - attempted aggravated carjacking and assault
(a) The applicant, the co-accused, who was then 15 years old and is the daughter of a person with whom the applicant is in a relationship, and four of the co-accused's friends, were standing on the street outside their vehicle at a residence in Croydon causing a minor traffic obstruction as Mr Darrell Leng and his wife Ms Lynda Timmins (who were driving in separate vehicles) approached. Mr Leng briefly stopped and yelled at the applicant and co-accused to get off the road and then drove into his driveway close by;
(b) As Mr Leng drove into his garage, the applicant and the co-accused followed Mr Leng's vehicle towards his garage. On the way, he banged on Ms Timmins' vehicle, which had parked on the street. The applicant and the co-accused walked down the driveway and into Mr Leng's garage, where he was sitting in his car. The applicant forced open the passenger-side door and entered the vehicle, holding a clenched fist up to Mr Leng's face. The applicant was wielding some kind of implement in his hand. The co-accused was armed with a machete. She opened the driver's-side door, held the machete up to Mr Leng's neck and said: 'Do you want me to stab you?'. The applicant demanded Mr Leng hand over the keys to the car and exit the vehicle. The applicant and the co-accused unsuccessfully started searching the vehicle for its keys; and
(c) Mr Leng began dialling 000. The applicant demanded Mr Leng hand over his mobile phone, and when Mr Leng refused to do so, the applicant punched Mr Leng in the face three times, causing minor wounds to his upper lip and scratches to his glasses. Mr Leng then got out of his vehicle, and as the garage door started to close, the applicant and the co-accused ran out. Mr Leng and Ms Timmins, who was still in her vehicle on the street, both called 000.
(a) Attempted aggravated carjacking;
(b) Attempted theft of a motor vehicle;
(c) Aggravated burglary (did enter as a trespasser with an intent to steal and at the time a person was present and knew a person was present);
(d) Theft (namely car keys and garage remote);
(e) Common law assault;
(f) Unlawful assault;
(g) Home invasion with intent to assault;
(h) Home invasion with intent to steal;
(i) Aggravated burglary (did enter as a trespasser with intent to assault);
(j) Aggravated burglary (did enter as a trespasser with intent to assault and at the time had an offensive weapon, namely a machete);
(k) Aggravated burglary (did enter as a trespasser with intent to steal and at the time had an offensive weapon, namely a machete);
(l) Committing an indictable offence (namely attempted aggravated carjacking) while on bail; and
(m) Nine charges of breaching a condition of his supervision order: seven contraventions of condition 6.3 that the applicant must not commit an offence referred to in Schedule 3 of the Serious Offenders Act 2018, one contravention of condition 7.10 that the applicant must not contravene, inter alia, the Control of Weapons Act 1990, and one contravention of condition 7.2 that the applicant must not fail to comply with his curfew.
(a) Possession of a dangerous article (a hatchet); and
(b) Failing to stop a motor vehicle as directed by a police officer.
D. Other charge in respect of which bail is sought
F. The charges in respect of which the applicant has been granted bail
(a) On 9 May 2023, contravening his supervision order by failing to comply with his curfew (SC Haylock is the Informant);
(b) On 20 and 24 October 2023 (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant, with charges initially having been laid by SC Crossland):
- Contravening his supervision order by using methylamphetamine;
- Using methylamphetamine; and
- Committing an indictable offence (contravening his supervision order) while on bail;
(c) On 26 October 2023, resisting emergency workers whilst on duty (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant, with charges initially having been laid by SC Crossland);
(d) On 23 February 2024 (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant, with charges initially having been laid by SC Adonis):
- Contravening his supervision order by failing to submit to urinalysis;
- Committing an indictable offence (contravening his supervision order) while on bail; and
- Breaching a provision of the Bail Act 1977 by failing to comply with his supervision order;
(e) On 29 February 2024 (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant, with charges initially having been laid by SC Adonis):
- Contravening his supervision order by failing to submit to urinalysis;
- Committing an indictable offence (contravening his supervision order) while on bail;
- Committing an indictable offence (intimidation relating to the involvement in a criminal investigation while on bail);
- Breaching a provision of the Bail Act 1977 by failing to comply with his supervision order; and
- Using threatening words in a public place;
(f) On 21 May 2024, contravening his supervision order by breaching curfew (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant); and
(g) On 23 May 2024 (LSC Stonehouse is the Informant):
- contravening his supervision order by failing to submit to urinalysis; and
- contravening his supervision order by breaching curfew.
(a) On 8 August 2024, driving while suspended, and driving an unregistered vehicle;
(b) On 26 February 2024, dangerous driving, failing to give his name and address after a motor vehicle accident, and failing to render assistance after a motor vehicle accident; and
(c) On 19 May 2024, careless driving, failing to give his name and address after a motor vehicle accident, and unlawfully assaulting two people.
(a) The applicant has an antisocial personality disorder with psychopathic traits that manifests in hostility and aggression to others. He 'holds attitudes of [using] violence to get his needs met'. He has a 'pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others with a history of deceit, manipulation, violence and intimidation' and 'appears to lack guilt, insight and empathy'; and
(b) The applicant, if in the community and even if subject to a supervision order, is at 'high risk' of committing an offence of the kinds listed in Schedules 2 and 3 of the Serious Offenders Act 2018 (for example, aggravated carjacking, common assault, robberies and burglaries).
(a) Although the applicant does not 'intrinsically' want to commit serious violence, in the sense that he does not fantasise about doing so or find it thrilling and is not 'predatory', the applicant 'clearly has a propensity to impulsive and aggressive behaviour' and posed a 'high risk of aggression';
(b) It was 'highly likely that there will be further acts of aggression' and a 'real possibility there might be ... offences that might be considered Schedule 3 offences' (which includes offences such as common assault and aggravated carjacking), but it was 'unlikely' that there would be a 'serious violence offence' in the sense of a Schedule 2 offence (which includes offences such as murder, manslaughter, intentionally or recklessly cause serious injury). These were references to the schedules to the Serious Offenders Act 2018, not the Bail Act 1977. This amounted to a high risk of what Associate Professor Darjee described as 'non-injurious physical violence' - that is, of aggressive and violent acts that do not result in serious physical injury to others;
(a) The applicant was twice given parole, but had the parole cancelled due to breaches by him of parole conditions;
(b) On release from prison, in August 2019, as part of an 'intensive treatment and supervision condition', the applicant resided at Rivergum. Rivergum is a secure residential facility that is designed to provide a structured and secure environment in which a person may undergo 'offence-specific treatment'. The applicant did not progress past the first phase of the three-phase model, which was the 'treatment readiness phase', and was hostile and aggressive to staff;
(c) The applicant's compliance with the requirement of his supervision order that he attend meetings with his Specialist Case Manager has been 'minimal' and his engagement has been 'low level'. Further, between August and December 2024, the applicant was directed on 10 occasions to present for urinalysis testing as a result of suspected drug use, but he did not attend on any of those occasions. At the moment, investigations are underway with a view to determining whether to lay further charges against the applicant for further alleged breaches of the conditions of the supervision order;
(d) The applicant was enrolled in a Forensicare 'problem behaviour program', but was 'exited' from that program due to missed appointments and aggression towards staff;
(e) The applicant was provided with drug and alcohol treatment from the Australian Community Support Organisation that involved him doing 'prosocial' outings. The applicant was 'exited' from that program due to his failing to engage and aggression towards staff;
(f) The applicant was offered to participate in a 'lived experience' through 'mentoring' program by 'Hard Cuddles', but he did not want to engage with that program;
(g) 'Forensic Intervention Services', which is a branch of Corrections Victoria that provides clinical services aimed at offence-specific treatment, has not accepted the applicant for one-on-one treatment due to what they described as his 'destabilised lifestyle' and his reluctance to engage with them;
(h) There has been a level of 'staff burn out and fatigue' at Corrections Victoria among those dealing with the applicant due to his 'aggressive', 'threatening' and 'abusive' behaviour;
(i) In July 2024, Corrections Victoria obtained a report from Code Black Psychology about how its staff might deal with the applicant to limit their exposure to 'occupational violence' and to enable them better to engage with him. He believed that the report's recommendations had been implemented.
(j) Since the applicant has been on remand, there have been 23 incident reports about him raised through the prisoner information management system relating for the most part to verbal abuse but including some thrown objects;
(k) The applicant claims, in prison, to have suffered a number of seizures and to be unable to stand on his legs and to need a wheelchair, but no seizures have been observed and no medical reason for his inability to stand has been identified;
(l) The applicant has been treated by Ms Melissa Pardi, psychologist, from the psychological services organisation Caraniche. The supervision order requires that he attend on her. He has only attended 14 out of 43 pre-arranged appointments,[8] which Mr Johannson described as 'somewhat minimal' engagement. Ms Pardi has reviewed the applicant once by audio-visual link since he has been on remand. Some attempts to see him while on remand failed due to problems with the connection (that cannot be attributed to the applicant), but on another occasion the applicant refused to attend, and on two other occasions he said he had a migraine and was not well enough to attend; and
(m) The applicant refused to attend an appointment with Dr Raymond.
(a) The applicant had been found guilty of breaching his supervision order many times including by failing to follow directions, by using methylamphetamine, by committing an unlawful assault, and, once, by removing his electronic ankle bracelet;
(b) In respect to the 26 January 2025 allegations, Ms Timmins' dashcam 'clearly shows' the applicant, the applicant was also identified by photo board, the data from the applicant's electronic ankle bracelet shows he was at that location at that time, and the clothing shown on the dashcam was later found in the applicant's car. According to Mr Leng's statement, the applicant punched him in the face and demanded his keys after the co-accused had held the machete to his throat. The only injury Mr Leng suffered was 'a minor cut to his lip'. Also, Mr Leng had conveyed to him that he 'strongly opposed' bail because he was scared of the applicant;
(c) In respect of the 29 February 2024 allegations, another pathology worker present says she heard the death threats being made, and Ms Prossimo had previously conveyed, through her husband, that she was too afraid to speak to the police;
(d) He has spoken to the alleged victims of two 'car collision incidents' that took place in February 2024 and March 2024, the first of which included an alleged assault and the second an alleged punch to the driver's window, which are the subjects of pending charges, and they were scared and opposed bail;
(e) Allegations were made against the applicant's current partner by a former partner of hers that she had engaged in 'controlling behaviour around drug use' by taking his money to buy drugs or saying that if he didn't give her money for that purpose she would kill herself. (Given the remote nature of this evidence, I place little weight on it);
(f) In 2023 or 2024, police found in the applicant's car syringes and on 12 January 2025, 'bottles of yellow liquid' that looked like urine that, he believed, had been prepared by the applicant as 'clean' urine that he could supply if asked to provide a sample for testing; and
(g) While the applicant has been in custody this year, there have been 'multiple incidents' of verbal and physical violence such as biting, kicking, spitting and throwing things.
(a) As a matter of underlying principle, it is inappropriate to hold people in custody because they are 'socially inconvenient';[12]
(b) The applicant suffered from various medical issues that were not able properly to be investigated or treated while in custody, and, related to this, he was a 'vulnerable adult'[13] due to his cognitive problems;
(c) His accommodation will be at risk if he were to be remanded in custody for perhaps another 18 months before his matters came to trial;
(d) The applicant would be denied ongoing contact with his mother;
(e) The past history of non-compliance with the supervision order is not predictive of future behaviour, because Corrections Victoria had only recently, or perhaps even not yet, implemented the recommendations of a report prepared by Code Black Psychology that made recommendations for how it might better engage with the applicant;
(f) The applicant was engaged with treatment by Ms Pardi, and this was positive;
(g) The applicant has a relationship that was a protective factor; and
(h) The risk could be ameliorated by imposing as bail conditions that the applicant attend drug testing when required (without there being an additional requirement that the request be on reasonable grounds) and not go to certain areas where the alleged victims reside.
(a) I accept that it is inappropriate to hold people in custody merely because it is 'convenient' to do so, and that this must be borne in mind. But I am, ultimately, applying a statutory test;
(b) I am not satisfied that there are significant medical issues that the applicant may not get adequately addressed in custody or if there are that this materially changes the assessment of the reasonableness of the risk he poses. The extent to which the applicant suffers from organic injury is unclear. There are, for example, references to his complaints being 'functional'. His various conditions seem to have been long-lasting and there was little evidence as to any attempts the applicant was making to seek medical treatment that were frustrated by his being arrested and remanded;
(c) I accept that the applicant's public housing is at risk if he is not granted bail, and that this is a factor to take into account. Although the respondent argued that the accommodation was not at risk because an agreement had been reached to reduce his rent to $15 a week or month, this would be subject to review and it is difficult to see how public housing would be kept empty for an extended period while someone is in custody for offences which, if proved, would result in a further period of imprisonment. On the other hand, I accept the evidence led that for so long as the applicant is subject to a supervision order, accommodation will be provided;
(d) I accept that the applicant's ability to maintain a relationship with his mother would be hampered, and that this a factor to take into account. His mother is now in a home, and, I assume, will not be able easily to visit the applicant;
(e) I do not accept that the applicant's ability to comply with the terms of his supervision order or to act without aggression is likely materially to change as a result of the Code Black Psychology report. That report was obtained in June 2024 and, according to Mr Johansson and based on his discussions with the applicant's Specialist Case Manager, was implemented promptly. According to the history given to Dr Raymond, training was implemented for 'all staff' through September 2024. That is some months prior to the most significant of the current alleged offences;
(f) I do not accept that the applicant has 'engaged' with Ms Pardi in any real sense, although his relationship with her has not broken down. A letter from Ms Pardi dated 27 March 2025 states: 'Unfortunately, [SS]'s sporadic attendance pattern has impacted meaningful treatment gains and therefore there are outstanding treatment targets related to relapse prevention planning and emotional regulation'. As noted, as at the date of that letter he had attended only 15 of 44 scheduled appointments. This was in an environment where he was subject to a supervision order that required his attendance at ongoing treatment. I accept that there have since been some occasions when he was unable to attend while in custody that were beyond his control. But I am not persuaded that his being in custody will prevent him from engaging in a treatment program that he would otherwise engage with if he were on bail, regardless of what conditions might be imposed;
(g) I do not accept that the applicant's relationship is a significant protective feature. The applicant did not mention this as a relationship of consequence to Dr Raymond when he saw her in June 2024. The applicant's partner has a significant criminal history for dishonesty offences and I am satisfied, from the imposition of a condition on her on 15 March 2024 as part of a community corrections order that she undergo assessment and treatment for drug abuse or dependency as directed, that her offences have been associated with substance abuse. More fundamentally, of course, the existence of this relationship has not prevented the events alleged to have taken place that gave rise to the most recent charges; and
(h) The alleged conduct took place at a time when the applicant was already on bail and was further subject to a supervision order that required, among other things, him to wear an electronic ankle bracelet and not commit any further offences or engage in behaviour that threatens the safety of any person. The presence of a supervision order has not had the effect of preventing problems from arising due to what I am prepared to accept, for the purpose of this application, is the applicant's defiant and aggressive attitudes towards those who seek to control his behaviour. If the presence of the existing supervision order and bail conditions were not sufficient to prevent the alleged offending, I cannot see that the grant of further bail or the imposition of further conditions would ameliorate the risk. I have no confidence that the applicant would comply with any conditions that are imposed on him.
(a) The expert evidence from both Dr Raymond and Associate Professor Darjee set out above is to the effect that there is a high risk that the applicant if released on bail will to continue engage in aggressive behaviour and behaviour of the type that he has engaged in to date;
(b) It is concerning that the charges include entering onto someone else's property accompanied by a co-accused with a machete, directly threatening a member of the public, striking them, and attempting to steal their property. This is so even given the uncertainty about what (if anything) the applicant had in his hand. The event would have been frightening and, if the allegations are true, represents a brazen and flagrant breach by the applicant of the various conditions and other measures taken in an endeavour to prevent him from offending while in the community and indicates a willingness to ignore conditions binding on him the breach of which may be met with significant punishment;
(c) Further, the prosecution case cannot be described as weak. The co-accused has, I was told, pleaded guilty. The evidence seems likely to establish that the applicant entered Mr Leng's garage with the co-accused. The applicant's counsel indicated that the prosecution could not exclude the possibility that the applicant had done so with a view to trying to prevent the co-accused (a 15 year old girl) from engaging in inappropriate actions. That scenario is inconsistent with Mr Leng's evidence that the accused punched him after the co-accused had held the machete to his throat;
(d) The allegations of making threats to kill are also concerning and, again, the prosecution case cannot be described as weak. Although at first blush it might seem surprising that the applicant would threaten violence towards someone who had offered to provide the test (rather than to refuse the test), this is less surprising if the possibility is allowed that the applicant did not want to be tested but did not want to refuse to be tested, and that is why he turned up two minutes before closing time. But in any event, there are, it seems, two people who say they heard the alleged threats and there is no obvious motive for their fabricating evidence; and
(e) This is not a case where the period of remand would exceed any term of imprisonment imposed if the allegations are proved.
(a) The presence of a hatchet in the applicant's car remains unexplained and so also remains a concern. However, in circumstances where the applicant was, it seems, driving others around, it may be that the hatchet was not his. Certainly, it is not alleged that he took it with him when he went into Mr Leng's garage. For these reasons, I have placed little weight on its presence in his car;
(b) The presence of bottles of liquid in his car that might have been 'clean urine' and presented to disguise drug use, and the applicant's refusal on several occasions to attend for urinalysis, certainly raises a prospect that he continues to take drugs. However, in my view the risk should he be granted bail remains unreasonable even if he were not abusing unlawful substances. Accordingly I have not relied on these matters, either.
[1] In accordance with an earlier order of this Court, a pseudonym is used in these reasons.
[2] Gamma-hydroxybutyrate, an illicit 'party drug'.
[3] This summary does not indicate where there are multiple charges for the same offence
[4] Bail Act 1977 (Vic); s 4AA(2)(c)(i).
[6] Ibid s 3AAA(h).
[8] I note that a letter from Ms Pardi dated 27 March 2025 states that the applicant had attended 15 of 44 prescheduled appointments.
[9] Rajic v The Queen [2016] VSC 27, [27].
[10] Roberts v The Queen [2021] VSCA 28, [10] (Maxwell P, Niall and Emerton JJA)
[12] Citing Re Clarke (1975) 61 Cr App R 320.
[13] Within the meaning of s 3AAAA(1) of the Bail Act 1977 (Vic).