8 Against that background, on 14 October 2008 Mr Dickson applied for bail in the County Court of Victoria and the application was refused in a ruling of his Honour Chief Judge Rozenes on 23 October 2008. Bearing in mind that Judge Rozenes' ruling was only a short time ago, Mr Traczyk, who appeared on behalf of the applicant, conceded that the matters that were relied on by his Honour for his conclusion were "still pertinent" and he took no issue with the reasons for his Honour's decision. Judge Rozenes' reasoning, he conceded, did militate toward a refusal of bail in this Court. It is, of course, to be noted that the application before me is not an appeal against the ruling of his Honour. The application before me is a hearing de novo but it is legitimate to consider whether there was anything that was not considered on the application before Judge Rozenes that might now militate in favour of a grant of bail.