Okay. How do you get to the spare bedroom from the lounge? Do you remember?---I don't know how to explain it. You walk out the lounge and down the little bit of the corridor sort of thing and then grandma and Poppy [J's] room was right in front and then it was to the right, the door.
Right, so [Mrs R] and Poppy [J's] room was next to the spare bedroom?---Yes.
Do you remember whether [Mrs R], that's Poppy [J's] wife, was in bed at the time as well?---Probably.
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How many paces do you think you would need, if you can remember, to get from the lounge room to the spare bedroom?---Six or seven
So it was very close to the lounge?---Yeah.
And even closer to the master bedroom where Poppy [J] and his wife used to sleep?---Yes.
And you say that while you were in there, a few minutes after you had gone to bed or a few minutes after you had gone to bed he came in and molested you?---Yeah.
Did he turn the light on, do you remember?---No.
Do you remember whether he opened the door and left it open or did he shut it after him?---He closed it.
Did he? Is there a latch on the door? Do you remember that?---I don't remember.
You don't remember?---No.
So you say that while other members of the family were so close to you he came into your bedroom and molested you? ---Yes.
How long do you think he would have been in the room with you?---Not even five minutes.
Not even five minutes. Was there any conversation between you and Poppy [J] during this time?---No,
None at all?---No.
Did you say anything to him?---No.
Did you tell him that you didn't want it to happen?---No.
Why not?---Because I was pretending I was asleep.
What about when it was happening? Did you say anything to him then like, 'Don't do it' or 'Stop'?---No.