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[2010] ACTSC 41
procedural. The application for an order under s 128(4) of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) was dismissed.
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The accused wanted the complainant compelled to answer questions about alleged ecstasy possession and use, arguing that the answers might help the jury assess her account of the alleged assault. The judge accepted that the proposed topic could potentially be relevant, but noted that no evidence was proposed about ecstasy's effects or how long they might last. General information about drug effects would not reliably show how the drug affected this particular complainant. The judge also considered the importance of the complainant's privilege and possible consequences for her nursing career. On the evidence and submissions then available, the judge was not persuaded that the interests of justice justified overriding the privilege, so the application was dismissed.
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This was an interlocutory ruling in a criminal trial in the Supreme Court of the ACT. The charge alleged that Stewart Barry John Mayhew assaulted the complainant and occasioned her actual bodily harm on 29 June 2008. The application concerned a separate, earlier event: an allegation that the complainant had taken five ecstasy tablets when she and the accused left Canberra to attend a rave party in Sydney on the night before the incident charged. The judgment does not decide whether that allegation was true. It records it as the subject of the proposed questions (paragraph 1).
The complainant declined to answer questions about the alleged drugs on the ground that an answer might tend to incriminate her. The accused then applied under s 128(4) of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) for an order requiring her to give evidence on that topic (paragraph 1). The accused's stated purpose was to put before the jury a possible explanation for the complainant's behaviour, reactions, perceptions and ability to recall events. In particular, the accused wanted the jury to be able to consider whether ecstasy consumed in the period of about 16 hours before the alleged assault affected her ability to recall or give accurate evidence (paragraph 3).
Rares J dismissed the application. The central reason was that the judge was not satisfied, on the material then available, that requiring the complainant to answer would be in the interests of justice. The judge considered both the proposed evidential value and the importance of the privilege against self-incrimination. The ruling was not a finding about whether the complainant had possessed or consumed ecstasy, nor a finding about the reliability of her evidence overall.
The case metadata identifies the judgment as R v Stewart Barry John Mayhew [2010] ACTSC 41, dated 28 April 2010. The final certification text states that the judgment was given on 28 April 2009, which conflicts with the heading, order, case citation and hearing date. The supplied text does not explain that discrepancy.
The judge treated the question as whether the interests of justice justified overriding the complainant's privilege. Rares J described the privilege as a “very important right” and said it could be overridden in the circumstances only if the court were satisfied for the purposes of s 128(4)(b) that compulsion was in the interests of justice (paragraph 6). That framed the discretion as a balancing question, not as an automatic consequence of the accused identifying a potentially relevant line of questioning.
The accused's argument was that knowledge of possible ecstasy use might help the jury assess the complainant's memory and reliability. Rares J acknowledged that the proposed evidence might have “some capacity to inform the jury of a potential circumstance that may be relevant” (paragraph 4). But the judge identified an important evidential gap: the accused did not propose to lead evidence about the pharmacological or other effects of ecstasy on a person's mind, memory or understanding, or the period during which those effects might influence recall (paragraph 4).
The judge also addressed the limits of generalised evidence. Referring to Acama Pty Ltd v Ellis [2010] HCA 5 at [62] and State Government Insurance Commission v Laube (1984) 37 SASR 31 at 32–33, Rares J observed that general evidence about the effects of drugs or alcohol is not a particularly good or accurate guide to the impact on a particular individual (paragraph 5). The judgment invokes those authorities for that stated proposition. It does not discuss their facts or set out a broader account of their holdings.
A further consideration was the complainant's circumstances. She was an assistant in nursing and, as the judge understood it, pursuing a nursing career. Rares J was not satisfied that all possible consequences for her future career could be prevented if she were required to answer questions about alleged possession and use of illegal drugs (paragraphs 4 and 7). The reasons do not specify what those consequences might be, or determine that any particular professional consequence would follow.
Finally, the judge considered whether the issues could be put before the jury without requiring the complainant to answer. On the material then available, Rares J considered that the issues could be presented in a way that did not require the conclusion that the privilege should be overridden (paragraph 8). The judgment adds that the jury had already observed the complainant exercising her right not to answer, and that any use of that circumstance would be a matter for address (paragraph 9). The judge did not decide how counsel might address it or what use the jury could ultimately make of it.
The judgment's legal discussion is limited to the application of s 128(4) and (5) of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) to the circumstances before Rares J. It is not a comprehensive account of the statutory privilege, its procedural steps, or the full effect of a certificate. The reasons state that the relevant statutory question was whether the interests of justice justified requiring the complainant to give evidence despite her claim that answers might tend to incriminate her (paragraphs 1, 3 and 6).
On the territorial point, the judge was satisfied that an answer would not tend to prove an offence or civil-penalty liability under a foreign country's law. The events were said to have occurred in the ACT and New South Wales. Rares J stated that a certificate under s 128(5) would protect the complainant from exposure to prosecution or civil penalty in either jurisdiction (paragraph 2). Having dealt with that point, the judge identified the “real question” as whether compulsion was in the interests of justice (paragraph 3).
The ruling's contribution is therefore case-specific. It illustrates that the existence of a possible connection between alleged drug use and a witness's recollection does not itself resolve the statutory question. The judge examined what evidence was actually proposed to establish that connection, including whether there would be evidence about effects and timing, and weighed that against the witness's privilege and the potential consequences identified in the material.
The supplied judgment does not establish a change in the law before or after this decision. It cites Acama and Laube for the limited proposition about the shortcomings of generalised evidence when assessing an individual person's response (paragraph 5). It does not describe the earlier state of the law, nor cite any later legislation or judgment. A reliable account of subsequent legal development would require sources beyond this judgment, which are not included in the supplied material.
At paragraph 3, the judge said that the “real question” was whether the interests of justice required the complainant to give evidence about alleged possession of an illegal drug. In plain English, the court did not treat the existence of the privilege as the only issue. It had to decide whether the case for compelling an answer was strong enough, in the circumstances, to justify overriding that privilege.
At paragraph 4, the judge accepted that the evidence might have some capacity to inform the jury, but recorded that no evidence was proposed about the effects of ecstasy on memory or the relevant period of those effects. Put simply, the proposed question was meant to support an argument about impaired recall, but the identified evidentiary material did not explain how the alleged drug use could have produced that impairment or how long any effect might have lasted.
At paragraph 5, Rares J stated that generalised evidence about drug or alcohol impacts was not a particularly good or accurate guide to the effect on a particular person. This is an important qualification in the reasons: a general proposition about substances does not, without more, demonstrate their effect on this complainant in the circumstances alleged.
At paragraph 6, the judge described the privilege against self-incrimination as a “very important right”. In plain English, the judge gave substantial weight to the fact that the complainant was not ordinarily compellable to answer questions that might expose her to criminal liability or a civil penalty. The judgment does not say that the privilege can never be overridden; it explains that, in this case, the statutory interests-of-justice threshold was not met on the material available.
At paragraphs 7 and 8, the judge considered possible effects on the complainant's future nursing career and whether the jury could be addressed on the issues without compulsion. These passages show that the decision took account of both the possible consequences for the witness and the possibility of presenting the defence's point without requiring the disputed answers.
The ruling is most relevant to applications seeking to compel a witness to answer questions that may tend to incriminate them, where the application is based on a proposed connection between the answers and the witness's ability to recall or perceive events. The particular setting here was a criminal trial, alleged drug use before the charged incident, and an argument that the jury should be able to assess the complainant's reliability with that information.
The reasoning is especially pertinent where the asserted relevance depends on an assumed effect of a substance on a specific person's memory or behaviour, but the proposed evidence does not address the nature or duration of the effect. Rares J did not say that questions about drug use are always irrelevant, or that such evidence can never justify compulsion. Rather, the judge assessed the proposed evidence in this application and found the evidential foundation insufficient to satisfy the interests-of-justice test.
The judgment may also be relevant where a witness identifies potential consequences beyond prosecution or civil penalty, such as possible effects on a professional career. Rares J considered that concern in the circumstances described, but did not make a general ruling about professional consequences or establish a general rule that such concerns prevent compulsion.
A lawyer or researcher applying the decision would need to distinguish cases with materially different proposed evidence, such as cases where specific evidence about timing, effects or an individual witness is available. The supplied judgment does not determine how such evidence would affect the balance.
The supplied judgment contains no later decisions discussing R v Mayhew and provides no account of how subsequent courts have treated it. It is therefore not possible, from this source alone, to say whether later courts followed, distinguished, applied or questioned the decision.
Within its own reasons, Rares J cited Acama Pty Ltd v Ellis [2010] HCA 5 at [62] and State Government Insurance Commission v Laube (1984) 37 SASR 31 at 32–33 for the observation about the limits of generalised evidence on individual effects (paragraph 5). The judgment does not state that either authority decided the s 128(4) question raised in this case. It uses them for the narrower evidentiary observation.
The ruling itself is an interlocutory decision on the material then available. Its express qualification, “at this point” and “on the material before me” (paragraph 9), indicates that the conclusion was reached on the application and material presented at that stage. The source does not report any later ruling in the trial or any appeal.
Several questions are left unresolved by the judgment. First, it does not set out the complete statutory procedure under s 128 or explain every circumstance in which an order under s 128(4) may be made. Its stated focus is the interests-of-justice requirement in s 128(4)(b) and the protection described under s 128(5).
Second, the reasons do not determine whether ecstasy was possessed or consumed, whether the complainant was affected by it, or whether her evidence was accurate. Those were not questions decided on this application. The judgment addresses the proposed questioning and the material said to support it.
Third, the reasons do not determine what use the jury could make of having observed the complainant decline to answer. Rares J said only that this would be a matter for address (paragraph 9). Nor does the judgment specify what submissions were made or what evidential rulings might govern any such use.
Fourth, the potential consequences for the complainant's nursing career are described at a high level. The judgment does not identify a particular regulatory, employment or registration consequence, and it does not set out what evidence supported the concern. It records the judge's lack of satisfaction that all possible consequences could be prevented (paragraph 7).
Finally, the source does not reveal whether further evidence could later be proposed about the effects of ecstasy, or whether a renewed application was made. The decision should therefore be read as the ruling on the material available at that time, rather than as a determination of every possible application concerning the complainant's evidence.
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1. The accused has applied for an order under s 128(4) of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth), that the complainant be required to give evidence in answer to questions concerning an allegation put to her that she had taken with her five ecstasy tablets when she and the accused left Canberra to attend a rave party in Sydney on the night before the incident the subject of the indictment, namely that the accused on 29 June 2008 assaulted the complainant and occasioned her actual bodily harm. The complainant said that she did not wish to answer the question on the ground that the answer might tend to criminate her.
2. I am satisfied that any evidence given in answer to such a question would not tend to prove that she had committed an offence against or arising under, or that she would be liable to a civil penalty under, a law of a foreign country. Indeed, all the events occurred within the Australian Capital Territory and New South Wales. The grant of a certificate under s 128(5) of the Evidence Act (Cth) would protect her from any risk of exposure to a prosecution or civil penalty in either of those two jurisdictions.
3. The real question is whether or not it is in the interests of justice to require the complainant to give evidence relating to the issue of her alleged possession of an illegal drug. Part of the accused's explanation to justify his application to compel the complainant to give such evidence is said to be the assistance it would provide the jury in the evaluation of the complainant's evidence. In substance, the accused wishes to put before the jury an argument based on the effect of whatever ecstasy tablets the complainant might admit having consumed in the period of about 16 hours prior to the alleged assault may have had on her ability to recall or give accurate evidence about the events, the subject of the charge. The accused also wishes to put that the reliability of the complainant's account of events, both before and at the time of the incident, would be better assessed by the jury with them being able to know whether or not ecstasy had played any role in her behaviour, reactions and perceptions during that time.
4. The complainant has said that she is an assistant in nursing and, as I understand it, is pursuing a career in the nursing industry. I have not had any assistance from counsel (this is not a criticism) as to the factors to be taken into account in exercising my discretion on the question of whether, in the present circumstances, the interests of justice require that a witness give evidence after refusing to do so on the ground that answers may tend to criminate her. The evidence may possibly have some capacity to inform the jury of a potential circumstance that may be relevant. However, it is not proposed to lead any evidence as to the pharmacological or other effects upon a person's mind, memory or understanding from the consumption of ecstasy, or in relation to any time period during which any ecstasy consumed may have had an effect on the ability of a person in the position of the complainant to recall accurately, at least, the events the subject of the charge.
5. Moreover, generalised evidence as to pharmacological or other impacts of drugs or alcohol is not a particularly good or accurate guide as to the impact of ingestion of such a substance on a particular individual with his or her physical characteristics: Acama Pty Ltd v Ellis [2010] HCA 5 at [62] per French CJ, Gummow, Hayne, Heydon, Crennan, Kiefel and Bell JJ; State Government Insurance Commission v Laube (1984) 37 SASR 31 at 32-33 per King CJ.
6. A very important right enjoyed by individuals in our society is that they are not compellable to give evidence in respect of matters that may tend to incriminate them or to expose them to a civil penalty. This fundamental right can only be overridden in the present circumstances were I satisfied for the purposes of s 128(4)(b), that it is in the interests of justice to do so.
7. I am not satisfied that it would be possible to protect the complainant from all possible consequences on her future career were she required to answer questions about her alleged possession of and taking of illegal drugs, if, indeed, that were what had happened.
8. On the material at least presently available in the trial, I am of opinion that the issues will be able to be presented to the jury in a way that does not require a conclusion that it would be in the interests of justice to override the privilege of the complainant to refuse to answer questions, the answers to which might tend to incriminate her.
9. The jury has observed her exercising that right in respect of the question put to her. It will be a matter for address as to how any use may be made of those matters that the jury has already observed. I am not satisfied, at this point, on the material before me, that it is in the interests of justice to require the complainant to give evidence concerning her alleged possession or consumption of ecstasy as proposed. I decline to order her to do so.
I certify that the preceding nine (9) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment herein of his Honour, Justice Rares
Solicitor for the Crown: Director of Public Prosecutions for the ACT
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Stewart Barry John Mayhew [2010] ACTSC 41
(1984) 37 SASR 31
The application for an order under s 128(4) of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) was dismissed.