75 Asked about a conversation with Johnson, and despite a warning by the judge, Brazel rejoined, "the only words that have come from your clients are threats". A little later Brazel said to counsel, "you have no defence so you are trying to attack me in front of this jury...". He went on to say to counsel, "you continue to lie". Not long after this Brazel told counsel he was an "idiot" and that he was, "making it up". Questioned about his file, Brazel replied non-responsively, "by the way, are you game enough to put your client's file on the table...bet you're not". When questioning about the file continued, Brazel said, "...put your client's file on the table and let the jury see both of them". After more cross-examination Brazel agreed he was a person of ill-repute and added, "...as are all the accused in this matter". After interjections from the dock by Sonnet, in the presence of the jury, the learned judge told him, "I can exclude you from this trial all together, and your counsel". In addition to the above, Brazel had referred to "pathetic little individuals (either defence counsel or the accused) that have tried to bring up a defence that hasn't got one" and had rounded on counsel saying he was "distruthful (sic), dishonest and a lack of integrity". Asked how many times he had been gassed out of his cell, he replied, "about twice the amount of times as your client" (Johnson). Questioned about the alleged offences, the subject of the presentment, Brazel said, "it is not the first time your client (Johnson) has broken a window".