(a) Statement of Esau Maiava
19In July 2010 Mr Maiava was transferred to the Multi Special Purpose Centre at Long Bay Gaol for medical reasons. On his first day at Long Bay Mr Maiava met Andrew. Andrew started talking to Mr Maiava about the murder with which he was charged. The Statement contains the following:
[4] ... I asked him what happened. He told me that he and his father were going to knock this guy. I asked him why, and he told me that his mum was having an affair with this guy. I asked him whereabouts, and he said, "Outside of where the bloke lived". He told me he did this in February this year.
[5] He told me the first plan was to kidnap him, tie him up and take him in the boot to Wooloomooloo. Once they were there, they were going to kill him there. He told me the first thing that happened was his Dad hit him with the car. The man fell, and Andrew got out and chased him around the car. As Andrew got to him, Andrew hit him with the hammer.
[6] Then the father jumped out of the car and stabbed the man with a knife. He told me that his father stabbed the man twice. They took off in the car they were in. Andrew told me that his father told him to get rid of all the evidence.
[7] Andrew told me that they went home. Then his father told him to call one of his mates to make an alibi for him, to say that Andrew was with his mate at the time of the murder. Dad told Andrew to get rid of his shoes. Andrew's Dad had first dropped him off at home, and then went somewhere for a short time and then came back.
[8] When Andrew's Dad got home, he said to Andrew, "We've done it, go to bed now". Andrew told me he rang his mate, but the mate didn't want to help him with the alibi.
[9] Then he told me that his mum organised a flight for him to go overseas because he knew the Police would come looking for him. Andrew felt that he had done nothing wrong in killing the man, he was proud of what he'd done and felt he had defended his family honour.
[10] Andrew was saying to me that he was texting his dad for weeks before hand, saying, "When are we gonna kill him, when we gonna kill him".
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[12] in relation to the plan to kidnap they were going to do, they had tape and all that stuff with them and organised the knife and hammer before the murder.
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[14] Andrew asked one of his mates in the Indonesian community where this man lived. This friend asked his dad, and they told Andrew and his father where the man lived. Then, for a couple of weeks before they murdered him, they were watching him at his house. One of those times they saw Andrew's mum and the man they murdered walking into his place.
[15] Andrew told me that he kept asking his Dad, "when we gonna do it". Andrew's Dad told him that he wanted to confirm what time he got home from work. Then, the day before they did it, Andrew's Dad told him they would do it tomorrow night.
[16] Andrew was telling me that he and his Dad used to watch a TV program on Foxtel to do with using a knife to stab someone. Andrew's Dad would then further educate him about how to stab someone.
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[22] I have a black 2010 diary which I make notes in whilst I have been in custody. When Andrew was telling me what he had done, I made notes in my diary. I made them each day immediately after being put back into our cells at 3pm. I wrote the notes behind the contacts section in the back of my diary. The notes are under the heading of "notes". I will be happy to provide a copy of the notes I made in my diary.
20The notes annexed to his Statement contain the following written on the page in the diary for 20 December 2010:
Andrew Iskandar
Him and his dad has been planning to do job for a while. He'll call his dad and ask his dad when they're going to kill the guy.
(b) ERISP of Victor Lau
21Victor Lau was a school friend of Andrew's. He received a telephone call from Andrew at 7:20am or 7:30am on the morning following the assault where Andrew informed him that he and his father had killed the deceased. Andrew asked Mr Lau if he would cover for him and say that he, Andrew, was at Burwood at 9:00pm and Mr Lau bumped into him. Mr Lau refused to do this.
22In particular, Mr Lau said the following in his ERISP of 2 March 2010:
Q17 Detective Sergeant MUNRO - Ok. What can you tell us about any information you may have to the murder of Mohd Saemin which took place at Leichhardt on the 21st of February 2010.
A Yep well Andrew ISKANDAR he gave me a call at 7:20 or 7:30 around that time and he didn't go into details about what he did but he told me briefly in general what he did. He said that um there was this guy messing around with his mother. And that they chased him and then they crashed into his car. And after they got out and he had a hammer in his car. And I'm not sure if his dad had a knife or not but I presumed he had a knife. And then pretty much what they did was that they attacked him, eh (sic) smashed a hammer on his forehead and the he (sic) was nearly dead and his dad finished him off with a couple more stabs, into the back and stuff like that.
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Q53 Detective Sergeant MUNRO - Ok, and what did he say?
A He pretty much, first off he's like, you know ah he asked me questions like ah you know if something's messing with your mum, like would you, you know would you take him out or stuff like that. You know aww it needs to be or something you know. And then I was like ah ok, so like what's the point. And then he's just like some guy me and my dad killed some guy, and he said like aww he's gone to the grave now he's gone. And I was like aww what the hell like you know what did you do? And he's like we chased him and he got out ah pretty much we crashed his car and then he got out and you know pretty much smacked him you know with a hammer and a knife. ...
Q54 Detective Sergeant MUNRO - Ok um, you mention a hammer and a knife, can you tell us anymore about what he said in relation to the hammer and the knife.
A Like he was very brief with it, he didn't tell me any location, and he didn't tell me the names of anyone. He just said he got a hammer or something and then he smacked him in the forehead and that's pretty much all he said and that he was nearly about to die and his dad finished him off with the knife so pretty much that's what he told me.
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Q62 Detective Sergeant FURIA - You indicate specifics that um that Andrew had used a hammer.
A Yep.
Q63 Detective Sergeant FURIA - And his father used a knife. Is that correct?
A He indicated me like his dad finished him off and stabbed him so I'm presuming that pretty much had the knife.