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[2018] ACAT 36
ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2018-03-28
Original judgment source is linked above.
PCM OFFICE SERVICES PTY LTD & ANOR v MI (Civil Dispute) [2018] ACAT 36
Catchwords: CIVIL DISPUTE - professional fees for preparation of expert reports and giving evidence at an arbitration hearing - payment on an hourly basis - meaning of debt application or liquidated demand - implied term that fees are reasonable - accountability to client for time spent
Legislation cited: ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2008 ss 7, 22
Subordinate
Legislation cited: Court Procedures Rules 2006, Dictionary
Cases cited: Alexander v Ajax Insurance Co Ltd [1956] VicLawRp 70; [1956] VLR 436
Arnautovic & Sutherland t/as Jirsch Sutherland v Cvitanovic [2011] FCA 809
Chetty and Anor v Automotive Computer Diagnostic Centre (AC/DC) Pty Ltd [2016] ACAT 38
Lombard Australia Ltd v Smeaton [1966] VicRp 37; [1966] VR 272
Onesteel Manufacturing Pty Ltd v United Kg Pty Ltd [2006] SASC 119
McAllery v Alta Building & Developments Pty Ltd [2014] NSWCATCD 106
Passey v Bandarage t/as City First Solicitors [2002] ACTSC 105
Paterson v Wellington Free Kindergarten Association Inc [1966] NZLR 468
Pires v DibbsBarker Canberra Pty Ltd [2014] ACTSC 283
Reid v Brett [2005] VSC 18
Smith v NSW Bar Association [1992] HCA 36
Spain v Union Steamship Company of New Zealand [1923] HCA 21
Vizovitis v Ryan [2014] ACTSC 243
Williams Love & Nicol v Wearne [2016] ACAT 18
...In the absence of notes it is, generally speaking, impossible to accurately recall the terms of any conversation six months after it took place. Human memory is notoriously unreliable. As Spigelman CJ recently observed ("Truth and the Law", The 2011 Sir Maurice Byers Lecture, 26 May 2011):
Witnesses can, without any dissimulation or propensity to lie, confidently assert the truth of conversations, observations and events which did not happen. The plasticity of memory impedes the truth finding process. This is not an uncommon phenomenon.
I have also observed in the course of the matter that the quality of Mr Schick's instructions have (sic) oscillated. For example, I have found that he is easily confused about dates and when things occurred.
If an application is made to re-open on the basis that new or additional evidence is available, it will be relevant, at that stage, to enquire why the evidence was not called at the hearing. If there was a deliberate decision not to call it, ordinarily that will tell decisively against the application. But assuming that that hurdle is passed, different considerations may apply depending on whether the case is simply one in which the hearing is complete ... or one in which reasons for judgment have been delivered ... It is difficult to see why, in the former situation, the primary consideration should not be that of embarrassment or prejudice to the other side. (references omitted)[7]
The criteria governing the exercise of the discretionary power to re-open a case to admit further evidence where the hearing has concluded but judgment has not been delivered have been said to be as follows:
(a) the further evidence is so material that the interests of justice require its admission;
(b) the further evidence, if accepted, would most probably affect the result of the case;
(c) the further evidence could not by reasonable diligence have been discovered earlier; and
(d) no prejudice would ensue to the other party by reason of the late admission of the further evidence.
In Smith v New South Wales Bar Association, the High Court of Australia stated that in such a situation it was difficult to see why "the primary consideration should not be that of embarrassment or prejudice to the other side." (references omitted)[8]
I was in a rather difficult situation mindwise and I couldn't really concentrate on what I was doing and I did ask Teresa [Tranzillo] if she could draft a statement and I would look at it, but I didn't look at it thoroughly enough.[9]
liquidated demand means a claim for payment of a specific sum of money the amount of which is worked out or capable of being worked out by calculation, and includes a claim for interest up to judgment.
[I]n my opinion, the present case is governed by the decision of the High Court in Spain's Case, supra. ... It appears to me that this decision is an authority for the proposition that when under a special contract in certain events a sum is payable the amount whereof is not specified, save that it is to be a reasonable sum, then the amount thereof being capable of ascertainment by some objective test, that is by reference to the relevant circumstances by which its reasonableness may be judged, that sum is a liquidated amount
As a matter of general principle and ordinary commercial common sense, it is quite obvious that, in the absence of a clear expression to the contrary, a provision in a building contract which entitles the contractor to be reimbursed for costs incurred will be subject to an implied term that the costs will be reasonably and properly incurred. In the absence of such a provision, the building owner has an entirely open-ended obligation or, looking at the other side of the coin, the contractor has been handed a blank cheque. Such a contract would put a premium on inefficiency and extravagance. There would be no proper accountability for incompetent or unnecessary work. There are, I think, compelling reasons why it is proper to imply a term that Reimbursable Costs should be reasonably and properly incurred.
30. Mildren J considered this issue in Athanasiou v Ward Keller (6) Pty Ltd [1998] NTSC 27; (1998) 122 NTR 22. The solicitors in that matter had entered into a fee agreement with their client. At 29, his Honour noted:
"At common law, a costs agreement is enforceable if it is made to appear to the court that the agreement is `fair and reasonable', the burden of proof resting on the solicitor seeking to uphold the agreement...
[Further] ... the court has an inherent power as part of its general disciplinary function in relation to legal practitioners to supervise such agreements ..."
31. His Honour, therefore, concluded that, even if the Northern Territory equivalent of s 190 of the LP Act was complied with, the onus of establishing that the costs agreement was fair and reasonable rested upon the solicitor.
32. In relation to the concept of what is "fair and reasonable", his Honour, at 30, commented:
"The concept of `fairness' deals with the circumstances under which the agreement was entered. Thus an agreement has been held to be unfair if the solicitor used undue pressure on his client to sign it, or if the solicitor did not explain the agreement to his client ... The concept of `reasonableness', on the other hand relates to the terms of the agreement itself. So if the fees to be charged under the agreement are excessive the agreement is not reasonable..."
43. I am satisfied that these Agreements are demonstrably unfair, due to lack of informed consent, and unreasonable, due to their effect in producing a grossly excessive fee.
I have received from you, construction drawings and contract documentation together with photographs dated 23/03/2013 of a partially completed house on [the Franklin block].
You have requested that I prepare a measured estimate of the cost to complete the house in accordance with the construction drawings and the contract documentation after allowing for work completed as recorded in the photographs.
I propose to undertake this work on a time basis at the discounted rate of $200 plus GST per hour. I anticipate that the time charge to prepare this estimate will total approximately $8,000. This does not include time of 10.8 hours already spent in viewing the site and reviewing the documents and evidence presented in relation to an adjudication hearing. In the event that I am required to present evidence in an arbitration or court hearing, my charge rate for preparation and attendance would be $280 plus GST per hour.
If this proposal is acceptable to you would you please sign the attached copy of this letter and return it to me.
Tim Sullivan does not agree to extend the timetable [for the arbitration]. As such, the measure estimate for the Franklin property won't be required at this stage. Please do not proceed with any work on the measured estimate.
I will give you an update when there is new information. No further works are required at this stage.
As such I may need to prepare to expert reports (one for each property) to look at the reasonableness of the building costs estimated by the second builder to build (sic) the houses from the point of termination to practical completion. I can send you the quote but I think it would be good if you could come to [the] houses for inspection. You haven't visited the second houses (sic)
Tim Sullivan wanted the expert report to be completed by 6 December 2014. It would be great if you could provide me with a quick response.
Thank you for your response. After the costs was (sic) considered, I decided not to file an expert report at this stage the timetable suggested the claimants [which are assumed to mean the builder] will file an expert report by 8 December. If an expert report is filed, we are required to file an (sic) response to the expert report by 19 December.
Meet Schick at [...] Street Garren (sic). Agreed on $5,000 per report. $280/hour for appearance in tribunal
My estimate of the cost to complete the Stage of Practical Completion based on rates current at 14-5-2012 (the original completion date) is $574,000.
I mean, there is expert evidence which is purely opinion, and there's some of it which there can be an empirical basis to it. Quantity surveying is a mixture of both. I think there are some things which have to come down to a wet finger in the wind as to which way it's blowing, and I think particularly when it comes to elements of time and those sorts of things, that it may not be able to be tested to the nth degree, but when you're looking at a measured estimate of the cost of the work to reach practical completion in 701 (sic), it's really just a motherhood statement if there is nothing there to back it up.
Now, I take it that this witness has done it, but for some reason it's not provided. To this no way of meeting that - for the claimant to meet it, and there is no way for me to analyse it. The report is far from complete, put it that way, if it's going to be relied on as an expert report in that regard. This was the same in 6 - in paragraph 6. It's a global figure, if you like, and you come down to paragraph 705. There's no calculation to show how he got to $574,000. Based on rates of 14 May.
What were those rates? Adjusted for the increased cost of 5.86%, he's given a source for that and just multiplied that out. But that's the only signs that he's disclosed here. There seemed to be no basis to the opinion that is disclosed in the report other than, "I'm an expert in this area. That's the price I got to." So I do have a difficulty with the report I also have a difficulty with the - just accepting his interpretation of what the contract means as being the only evidence that relied on here. There is nothing to back it up. It's just an opinion as to what completion means, or it's what it means to him for the purpose of pricing.[26]
And I know that we had some discussion with the witness regarding his measurements, which, for one reason or another, still haven't been tendered, and I would expect, as the arbitrator, to at least be - have those in evidence. The fact that they have not been tendered rings some alarm bells for me.[27]
I regard those papers as my doodlings, if you like - whatever. But they're notes that are-have meaning for me. And to submit them to the court, I feel, would be totally inappropriate because people who don't know what I've written - what I've scribbled will place different interpretations on them. And that's hardly fair to anyone. It's certainly not fair to me.[28]
I have serious reservations, as well, as to whether they're actually measurements as referred to in 7.01.[29] I mean, that's what he has relied on, but to say that there's a measurement-and this is no disrespect to Mr Schick - I would have expected that if we are talking about measurements, there would be measurements that could be verified at least by the witness-sorry - an expert witness of the other side so that it comes to me in some intelligible form.[30]
Total times for each day are transferred to a monthly summary located on the last diary page for the month and monthly totals are transferred to a 'Time Record' sheet in the main file for the project.
In my statement dated 23 June 2017 on page 6 I listed my time spent in conferences and hearings only. The list did not include time spent on, preparation or phone calls. Significantly it did not include 6.0 hrs on 1-8-15 and 8.0 hrs on 2-8-15. While I am unsure as to exactly what work I was engaged on during these dates it would not have been measurement or calculations as this work was completed prior to that time
[1] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 1 September 2015, page 401, line 4
[2] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, page 120, lines 34 - 36
[3] Mr Schick received Mr Mi's payment of $6,000 on 1 April 2015 and accepted it as payment in full of the second invoice
[4] Witness statement of Eric Schick dated 23 June 2017, paragraphs 37, 38 and 40
[5] Witness statement of Eric Schick dated 23 June 2017, paragraphs 39 and 41
[6] Arnautovic & Sutherland t/as Jirsch Sutherland v Cvitanovic [2011] FCA 809 at [73]
[7] Smith v NSW Bar Association [1992] HCA 36 at [32]
[8] Reid v Brett [2005] VSC 18 at [41]
[9] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, page 131, lines 27 - 30. I do not in any way imply that Ms Tranzillo acted inappropriately. In my view, Ms Tranzillo did the best she could to prepare a statement that fairly and objectively reflected her instructions and annexed relevant documents in support of those instructions.
[10] ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2008, section 22(1)
[11] Spain v Union Steamship Company of New Zealand [1923] HCA 21
[12] Lombard Australia Ltd v Smeaton [1966] VicRp 37; VR 272
[13] See Chetty and Anor v Automotive Computer Diagnostic Centre (AC/DC) Pty Ltd [2016] ACAT 38 at [18]-[25]
[14] Alexander v Ajax Insurance Co Ltd [1956] VicLawRp 70; [1956] VLR 436
[15] Paterson v Wellington Free Kindergarten Association Inc [1966] NZLR 468 at [471]
[16] Onesteel Manufacturing P/L v United Kg Pty Ltd [2006] SASC 119 at [36]; adopted with approval in McAllery v Alta Building & Developments Pty Ltd [2014] NSWCATCD 106 at [106]
[17] Passey v Bandarage t/as City First Solicitors [2002] ACTSC 105
[18] Vizovitis v Ryan [2014] ACTSC 243 at [389]
[19] Pires v DibbsBarker Canberra Pty Ltd [2014] ACTSC 283 at [83] - [86]; Williams Love & Nicol v Wearne [2016] ACAT 18 at [24]-[30]
[20] Onesteel Manufacturing P/L v United Kg Pty Ltd [2006] SASC 119 at [109]
[21] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, page 59, lines 16-40
[22] Witness statement, Eric Schick dated 23 June 2017, paragraph 34g
[23] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, pages 128-129
[24] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, page 121, lines 23 - 34
[25] Transcript of proceedings, 15 August 2017, page 95, lines 38-39
[26] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 1 September 2015, page 412 line 22 - page 413, line 5
[27] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 25 September 2015, page 10, lines 44-47
[28] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 25 September 2015, page 16, lines 14 - 19
[29] In paragraph 7.01 of the Franklin Report, Mr Schick stated "I therefore completed a measured estimate of the cost of work to reach the stage of Practical Completion."
[30] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 25 September 2015, page 16, lines 24-29
[31] Transcript of arbitration proceedings, 1 September 2015, page 419, line 12 - page 420, line 25
[32] 16 June (2.5 hours), 30 July (1 hour), 31 July (2 hours), 3 August (1 hour), 1 September (3.6 hours) and 25 September (2.5 hours)
[34] 16 June (2.5 hours), 30 July (1 hour), 31 July (2 hours), 3 August (1 hour), 1 September (3.6 hours) and 25 September (2.5 hours)
PCM OFFICE SERVICES PTY LTD & ANOR
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