[2023] VSCA 43
General information, not legal advice.
Court of Appeal (Vic)
2023-03-08
Priest JA, Taylor JA, Kaye JA
Original judgment source is linked above.
... you used the PID on them? --- Yes.
That gives you a reading? --- Yes.
Or it triggers or whatever the word is? --- Yes.
You either lift them up or pick them up; is that right? --- Yes, I pick them up.
Smell them? --- I can't recall whether I brought them to my nose to smell them but I do recall smelling an odour.
Yes? --- As I picked them up and put them in the bag.
Yes. They give off a petrol odour, I think you said? --- Yes, that's right.
And that's all obviously at the scene at the time you put them in the arson bag? --- Yes.
Now, what you say is - you were asked questions by [the prosecutor] about the particular scientific basis or the reason for your seizure of these catalogues or pamphlets? - Yes.
And I think, as I understand, you nominated three reasons - one - tell me, if I'm right - one is that they're in the area of origin? --- Yes.
Two is that the PID reacted? --- Yes.
And three is that they gave off this odour? --- Yes.
And you've indicated yesterday strong petrol-like odour? --- Yes.
All right. So that's - you say, look, that's the situation at the scene? --- That's right.
That's what you were encountered with? --- Yes.
Clear memory of all of that? --- Yes.
And that's the evidence you give to this jury; correct? --- That's right.
No doubt whatsoever? --- No.
... I didn't smell the sample myself because that's why we have the PID, it saves us sniffing everything, but I would expect that if you, yeah, had have held those pamphlets up to your nose that perhaps there could have been an odour. Yeah, I can't say for certain, I'm sorry.
In this situation, if one went to, for example, the neighbour's mailbox and picked up a copy - a copy of the exact same catalogues, wouldn't that be a pretty easy way to find a control sample here? --- It would and it would answer some - some, some questions about the - about the sample, I suppose - what companies they were from and so on. I don't really know that it would serve much other purpose.
Right. Isn't - and I know you've rejected this but, I mean, in the absence of having a comparative sample, isn't it right you're not able to isolate what hydrocarbons are being produced by, you know, in this case the pamphlets or in another case the glue or as a carpet sample, that sort of thing? --- Well - well, it's not possible to - to isolate them as - as being peculiar to the pamphlets, but I think if I got that sort of - if I got that sort of result from pamphlets every time, I'd be putting them in my petrol tank. I'd - that there was petrol on the pamphlets.
Right. The - and you're talking about what the sniff, the feel - those sorts of observable phenomenon? You're saying they wouldn't appear in the way that we normally experience pamphlets? --- I'm sorry, what wouldn't appear in a normal way?
So you're talking about - 'I'd put them in my petrol tank'? --- Oh, what I mean is - all right, that was a facetious remark and I apologise for it.
No, no, I'm just trying to understand the --- ? If the quantity of petrol that was on the pamphlets would mean that if that actually belonged to the pamphlets --
...The pamphlets would be mere valuable for their petrol content than for - I mean - if you're suggesting that all - all other pamphlets that were - all other pamphlets of the same type had petrol, that means there would be an enormous amount of petrol involved.
You said yesterday that the quantity of petrol found on these pamphlets was such that if it was - if it was present on - on a mass production, as it were of such pamphlets, there would be an enormous amount of petrol involved? --- Yes, that's right.
A degree, your Honour. It is, as I said, a matter of having run, I don't know many thousands of these over the years. If I wanted to reproduce it, I would - I would start in the millilitre range rather than the microliter range. Now, I - and that's what I call a fair amount, so I can't go any further with it.
... the testing does not involve quantitative analysis? --- That's right.
There's no measurement. It's - it's highly sensitive testing that can detect up to levels as low as five or 10 microlitres? --- That's right.
Is that right? And I think you may have used the expression before the break of there being 'a fair amount here', and that statement is in the context of the sensitivity of the testing; is that correct? --- Yes.
All right. And what's - what's revealed by the testing is certainly indicative of a very small quantities? --- That's right.
Detected on the test; is that right? --- Yes.
Yes, all right. And I think you may have used at one point the expression, 'trace amounts'. And when you use that expression does that - does that refer to amounts even lower than the five to 10 microlitre level? --- Oh, no, that refers to amounts around the five to 10 microlitre level. I'd call those trace amounts.
All right. What colloquially I think might have been referred to in this case is 'a fraction of a drop'? --- Oh, that's right.
Yes, all right. And just - just by way of the last matter on this point, I think you've given evidence about this on a previous occasion when you were asked, 'Beyond saying a particular sample didn't need enhancement before it could be identified as part of a chromatogram, therefore it was more than five or 10 microlitres, can you say anything more about the quantities involved?' And you answered 'No' when asked that question. And was that - is that - that's still correct? --- It's correct in that the test does not provide a measure of how much was there.
... It's a petrol-like odour ... so - and because I can't confirm that that's what it is, but I think everyone's familiar with the smell of petrol and so that's - I'm confident to say 'petrol-like odour' but if it was proven wrong on the instrumentation I wouldn't dispute that.
... So we do have to adjustment (sic) our sensitivity, but for our everyday samples we don't really like to venture down that low because it does bring about a level of uncertainty and that's when you are really looking at contaminants as well, so we know that at the level of 10 microlitres what we're seeing is a significant sample.
And we're still, we're still in that fraction of a drop? --- It's still very small, yes.
Aren't we? --- Yes, still.
So that word is relative to the sensitivity of the testing? --- That's right, yes.
And beyond that quantitatively you can't say anything really? --- No, that's right.
My next direction of law relates to some of the evidence that arose yesterday. You will recall that the witness, Mr Kelleher, agreed with the previous witness, Ms Noonan, that the testing of the samples found at the scene, subjected to the testing, showed moderately evaporated petrol. You have also heard that conclusion challenged in a number of ways by [defence counsel] - the absence of the naphthalenes, the inconsistency with the Australian Standard for such testing and for another example - it was put to the witness that other hydrocarbons, for example, those found in glue or carpet or those used in the printing industry could confuse the testing and invalidate that opinion. Mr Kelleher agreed that a great many things contain petroleum-based hydrocarbons in that context.
In giving his evidence on that subject, the witness used some turns of phrase and some concepts that are of no assistance to you in the case and I direct you, as a matter of law, to put them aside in your consideration of his evidence.
You will recall that the witness made some remark about putting pamphlets in his petrol tank, a remark that even he described as 'facetious', and there are a couple of other remarks too.
Importantly, the witness also gave evidence that this headspace analysis technique is highly sensitive, it can detect very small amounts of components in a sample. He said that the sensitivity of this testing has the capacity to go below 10 microlitres and perhaps even detect five microlitres, otherwise expressed as 'a fraction of a drop'.
In re-examination, Mr Kelleher was asked to clarify his language about when he uses terms such as 'enormous amount' and he agreed that this statement was in the context of a proposition that petrol was being used as a solvent in a print-run of pamphlets of potentially hundreds of thousands of pamphlets.
On questioning by [the prosecutor], Mr Kelleher agreed that the testing involved in this case does not involve any quantitative analysis. There is no measurement of how much petrol was potentially there. He confirmed that it is a highly sensitive test that can detect levels as low as 5 or 10 microlitres and 'a fair amount' was a term he used in that context of the sensitivity of the testing. He confirmed that references to 'trace amounts' refers to amounts around the 5 to 10 microlitre level, otherwise expressed as 'a fraction of a drop'. He confirmed that the test undertaken by his team does not and cannot provide a measure of how much petrol was there.
I am directing you that this is the state of the evidence as it relates to quantity in this case so as to clarify any confusion that may have arisen. There is no evidence in this case as to the quantity present other than to say, according to this witness, it was detectable in the context of a highly sensitive test.
Again, what you make as to whether the presence or absence of petrol on the sample will be a matter for you after you have listened to all of the evidence in the case. You will make that assessment after hearing all the evidence in the case and assessing the witnesses who gave evidence on the subject. Remember, that it is matter for you as judges of the facts. Experts are there to assist you but they do not get to decide the facts in this case.
In making your judgment of the fact about whether there is petrol detected in the process undertaken by Ms Noonan, it is the agreed position of the parties, both prosecution and defence, that the testing does not and cannot indicate anything about quantity. The sensitivity of this testing has the capacity to go below 10 microlitres and perhaps even detect five microlitres, otherwise expressed as 'a fraction of a drop'. You should approach your assessment of the expert evidence in this case on that basis. That's my second direction of law to you today.
[2] Ground 4, a competence of counsel ground, was abandoned prior to the hearing. The applicant also abandoned an application for leave to appeal against sentence.
[3] The criminal behaviour of the applicant prior to the act of arson was the subject of earlier criminal proceedings on an indictment containing one count of arson and various charges relating to offences committed against Ms Kirkland and Mr Cameron. On 3 October 2019 he pleaded guilty before a County Court jury to one charge of common law assault, which offence comprised three incidents involving Ms Kirkland. He pleaded not guilty to the remaining charges. The jury was hung with respect to the charge of arson. The applicant was acquitted of all other charges. On 29 November 2019 the applicant was, without conviction, fined $3000 in respect of the common law assault: see DPP v Papaioannou [2019] VCC 1978 (Judge Trapnell).
[4] See Evidence Act 2008, s 79(1).
[5] See Evidence Act 2008, s 77.
[6] The witness had previously given evidence at the committal, the first trial and a pre-trial examination under s 198B of the Criminal Procedure Act 2009.
[7] Maric v The Queen (1978) 20 ALR 513.
Papaioannou
The King [2023] VSCA 43
DPP v Papaioannou [2021] VCC 1354 (Judge Todd)
(1978) 20 ALR 513