austlii:cth/FedCFamC1F/2025/156
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FedCFamC1F
2025-03-14
Carter J
Original judgment source is linked above.
FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 1)
(a) a written update as to the child's progress in June and December each year: and
(b) a recent photograph of the child in May each year.
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court's records.
Note: This copy of the Court's Reasons for judgment may be subject to review to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 10.14(b) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 10.13 Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth).
Part XIVB of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish an account of proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.
IT IS NOTED that publication of this judgment by this Court under a pseudonym has been approved pursuant to subsection 114Q(2) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth).
(a) R1 is an email written by the father dated 30 June 2023 addressed to Anthony Albanese, the Prime Minister of Country B and Judicial Registrar Schirripa together with all the attachments to that email; and
(b) R2 is a printout produced by the father following his enquiry with M Company in March 2023 as to the cost of aeroplane travel for himself and the child to Country B.
...sue you for the house and and try to get [X] as much as I can [Ms Florea] I might just go and speak to the pastor of the church as well again you prove to me you are not a nice girl.
(as per the original)
[X] i have walked away not from you ok from what your mother dd to me ok on page P1.P2.P3 THAT IS THE STATENT THAT I GAVE TO THE FAMILY LAW COURT ok that is what has happened to me via your mother
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[X] P6 AN P7 are pics of you and me taken in what was a very nice home but evil moved in i don't know why but again what your mum did was so wrong.
[X] i know you are [an infant] and you might be saying wow i am only [an infant] and getting stuff like this but with a sad broken heart it is what it is not my doing ok [X]. [X] i am giving these to TWO of my mates their wives will be getting in touch with you when you are 14 yrs old to give you all the letters that i will be sending you encase your mother doesn't give you these letters that i send to her to give to you or your mother puts them in the bin and you never see them.
[X] i am at words to say how i am felling as i said befor i am a broken man and my heart has gone for your mother as it stats in my letter to the law court i believe your mum USED me for your berth
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[X], please know this i never wanted to leave your mum ok i do say that in my emails, anyway [X] this is the fist letter to you ok not nice but i just had to let you know i do know that your mother and her family will put shit on and say to you the wrong things about me so this is why i have done this first. [X] i must go now ok you will NEVER EVER BE FORGOTEN OK YOU ARE MY LITTLE PRINCES OK PLEASE DONT THINK I WILL FORGET YOU AND I DO HOP THAT I CAN HAVE YOU OVER WITHOUT YOUR MOTHER INTERFERING IN OUR LIFES OK [X]
(as per the original)
i went bush for 4 days i hade no food no cash just my cloths and myself i lived like a rat for that 4 days i stoll food and i was not happy for that but it is what it is since i have payed back there is about 100 texess from me to [Ms Florea] to explain the rest [Ms Florea] hase never said to me I am a mental nut case or a idiot untill [Mr N] told her what i was saying i say this i hade a fight with [Ms Florea] drove to sydney fpr my court case drove back to SA for [X] sayed in a broken van hade no cash stayed in the bush like a rat I TOLD [MS FLOREA] ALL THIS AM I SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY I DONT THINK [MS FLOREA] WANTED ME TO COME BACK TO SA as i told her but i do have [X] my daughter everthing els we have texes this statement is true and i swear on it
(as per the original)
I will be writing to [X] reguli to say hello and just to let her know her dad loves her and when [X] is at age to come and see me without her mother's interference and the family Law courts interference as well, Monday i will inform the FDR and the family law court of this and i will be sending 3 other letters about you, at the end of the day my heart has gone for you ok i will be deleting and blocking you from my phone...
[Ms Florea] i say this to you as a human bean you stink ok as a fair mum you stink ok you have had so much time ([...] mnths acutly to do the right thing with [X] but you failed)
(as per the original)
I am just saying hello to you I am sorry [X] but your mother has still NOT allowed me to see you ok, [X] don't know why your mother is acting this way for but I say again your mother is acting in a way of I just don't have the words ok she is behaving in a nasty evil way. [X] am so DISCUSSED in your mother. [X] I have told you in 4 other letters that your mother is barbaric and unhuman...[X] do you see what I am trying to say your mother is NASTY ok she is so bad [X] there is a word ok its called PARENTAL ALIENATION SYNDROME THAT WHAT YR MOTHER IS....I am a good dad [X] ok Just meet the wrong Person witch sux...I will be takeing Legal action to get you I do know it will get NASTY ok your mother will not do the right thing buy you and I so I have to do this [X] your mother has said to a few people not nice things about me
(as per the original)
yes i will be her for my Daugther [X] not like the other scumbags that don't care about the children in this place i them walked out to my [motor vehicle] and rang my mate i cried so much in my [motor vehicle]
(as per the original)
To Whom it may concern
Mr Anthony Albanese PM of Australia
[...] PM of [Country B]
Legal Case Manager Jr Schirripa
Clair Ralfs CEO Of [T Family Services]
Sapol
And Others
[...]
Prime Minister of [Country B]
I am writing to you in hope that you can be some help to me, i have a Daughter called [X] i have att emailed letters to different people but as i always get wrong done by. [...] there are people in Australia that are [Country B] citizen [Ms Florea] is one of them she is my Daughters mother she has lied to the Family Law Court so many times about me if you can may you please write to her and ask her to keep in mind that we are parents ok she has stopped me from being with my little princess, Yes Prime minster [...] i was sexually abused [...] but that does not stop me being a father dad to [X]. that's what [Ms Florea] is now using against me. Prime minister [...] I would love to bring [X] over there to see her roots and show her some of her back ground in time
Mr Anthony Albanese
Prime Minister of Australia
i am asking you please help me with this horrifying mess that i am in. its not fair to me and its not fair to My Daughter [X], i have been accused of so much stuff in the family law court that IS NOT TRUE reports have been done that are no way right People from [T Family Services] have lied about this to me i have att a email to show you what has happened to me, its not right ok PM they have done this out of spit so it looks like i am a bad person Pm Albanese i am a bloody good man ok i help when needed to say this to you my dad was dying i drove to [...] NSW to see him while i was going though this mess i did a 6 week course for the program co parent and stuff for my sexual abuse re the [people] that abused me, in the middle of that my FATHER DIED but i held up and did what we do as a dad please Prime Albanese help me
To the Family Law court
Judicial Registrar Schirripa
i am asking you to not pass judgement on me as i email you this email ok i am a human bean and a dad ok i have been though hell and now with this it's just not fair and wrong what has happened to me [Ms Florea] has told so much lie about me she has tyred to have me charged with things she has told her family things that are not true she has lied to the COURT about me that is just not true ok please read and look at all of this and please let me and my daughter do what we do as a dad and a father should be doing
at the end of all this and in short i am a dad ok i am a good man yes i was sexually abused [...] BUT that dose has no issue of me being a dad to [X] i have spoken to the Australian Federal Police about what [T Family Services] has done i will be emailing them a full email as well they have lied in a federal document in the family Law court about me that's not fair as you can see i said this back in Feb 2023
After all this i am saying I AM JUST A DAD
[Mr Orlova]
(as per the original)
(a) the mother had tricked him - and raped him - to fall pregnant. He said the mother "only wanted a child out of me" and that she would "stop at nothing" to achieve that goal. At one point, the father said this was a view shared by his daughter in law who - according to the father - had recognised early on that she did not like the mother and tried to warn the father to end the relationship as she was "using" the father to get a child. That the relationship was a ruse for the mother to fall pregnant was a repeated theme in the father's narrative and it was difficult to direct him towards matters more relevant to my determination. In relation to the allegation of rape, the father said "four police officers had a look at it. They said it was rape". He also said, "I regard it as rape, the stuff that she did to me". The mother has never been interviewed by the police in relation to this allegation. The father insisted he had text messages from the mother which confirmed she had raped him. However, when asked to produce such text messages the father was able only to quote one text message, sent by the mother early in the parties' relationship, in which the mother invited him to have sex with her. There was absolutely no admission or suggestion of a forced sexual encounter. The allegation of trickery and rape were put to the mother and denied by her. I reject the allegation that the mother tricked and/or raped the father;
(b) the relationship fell apart once the mother became pregnant, as she lost interest in maintaining the relationship after achieving her goal of becoming pregnant. The father said, "the minute I found that pregnancy test is when it all fell apart". He said he found the test "in the bin upstairs" rather than being informed by the mother. The mother's evidence was that she had genuinely pursued the relationship and was not only using the father to fall pregnant. The father said the mother lied to him about her intentions about the relationship and insisted "she is still lying". I reject this assertion by the father. It is not consistent with the fact that the relationship did not cease upon the mother falling pregnant. Rather, the relationship continued during the pregnancy and further efforts were made by the mother after the father left for Sydney to address their relationship issues. For instance, the mother sent the father text messages in August 2020 saying "I still want to make it work between us" and referring to the parties both attending counselling to talk about their future;
(c) the mother was only interested in the father's money and potential payout, and that the relationship turned sour after he lost his appeal in relation to a payout he was to receive by way of compensation. I do not accept those assertions. The mother referred in text messages in July 2020 to being upset by the father's friends saying she was only interested in him because of his money or because she wanted a baby. In a text message to the father dated 13 August 2020 she wrote "as I told you when we first met I never care or never expect anything from that [...] money". As already set out, the mother's text messages continued to suggest the parties might work on a future even though the father had by that time lost his court action for compensation. I reject the allegations that the mother pursued the relationship for the purposes either of getting pregnant or for financial gain; and
(d) that the mother is inhumane, cruel, nasty, barbaric, vindictive and a liar. The father described the mother in these terms in his written communications, to Dr H, to the Family Report writer and at trial. The Family Report writer said at interview the father frequently referred to the mother as barbaric, vindictive and inhumane and described it as difficult to redirect the father to other matters. At trial the father said he "stands by" his descriptions of the mother and continues to maintain these views - although he also said on one occasion in Court some time ago, he had apologised to the mother. The father said his negative views of the mother were shared by at least four police officers with whom he had discussed the mother's behaviours in refusing to allow him time with X, and who had agreed the mother was vindictive. The father also told the Family Report writer that he had been "alienated" from his adult sons by the mother because he was required to remain in Adelaide for these proceedings. In an earlier affidavit (which was an exhibit to the father's trial affidavit) he asserted - without providing any particulars - that the mother has "significant anger management issues" and that "her inability to control her anger is a factor that may potentially place [X] at risk of harm". He deposed further that the mother terminated his relationship with X "out of pure malice and vindictiveness, and for no other good reason". In his closing submissions the father described the mother as spiteful and vindictive. He wondered whether the mother really loved X at all - because if she really loved X she would "wake up to [herself]". I reject the father's characterisation of the mother and her motivations.
(a) the father's repeated concern that maternal grandfather is a violent and unpredictable man, wanted by a political group. The father said his brother - who he described as a "war hero" - told him "straight up be very careful of the [political group], they will cut you down". He said he "one hundred percent" believed his brother. According to the father the maternal grandfather's history raises a safety threat for X. He said she might be playing with the maternal grandfather in a park, and a Country B operative could recognise the grandfather and attack him with a gun or baseball bat. This was also a matter the father had previously raised with the Family Report writer - telling her that he had made a report to Child Protection about this perceived risk. The father said he regarded this as a real risk to X's safety. However, I am satisfied that the scenario outlined by the father is farfetched and extremely unlikely. It may reflect an unnecessary hypervigilance on behalf of the father - and to that end I note that Dr H commented that the father described the following thought patterns; "He described hypervigilance and he said he is very vigilant to anyone who might abuse [X]".
(b) the father said he had enjoyed taking X for walks as an infant, as X was a "chick magnet" meaning that women would "turn around" to look at the father when he had X with him;
(c) in a somewhat bizarre narrative, the father asserted that the police officer who interviewed him when the mother sought a protection order against him, stopped the interview process part way through, stopped the recording devices, removed his body camera and approached the father. The father said he stood up as the officer approached him and said "you know I can fight", but the officer was in fact siding with him, and told him "shut up [Mr Orlova]. I have interviewed [Ms Florea] and she's the most vindictive person I've ever met". He said the officer invited him to use his first name, called the father by a nickname, recommended he "go home and have a beer" and that he would not be charging the father with anything. The father said after this he went home and cried, and had a conversation with X, in his mind, in which he asked X 'what has your mum done, going to the police to have me charged?' The father recounted this event to the Family Report writer as well. In that rendition the father asserted the police officer described the mother as a "vindictive bitch" and wondered "how dare she do this to you?";
(d) additional police officers had warned the father about the mother, telling him "don't go near this girl. She's out for blood", and confirming to him that she was vindictive, trying to destroy him and trying to take X away forever;
(e) at supervised time the father said he whispered in X's ear "I love you. I just wish your mum didn't do this. I wish and pray to my god that things were different between me and your mum". Whilst the father acknowledged it was inappropriate to have whispered this to X he was unable to explain why it would have been inappropriate. He did not agree that statements like this would be exposing X to the parental dispute;
(f) the father physically inspected X's teeth, ears and fingers on the first visit. He said he did this as he had not been given an opportunity to do that when she was first born, and he wanted to check she had all her fingers. He also said he was worried about bruising on her body and was not sure if the mother was looking after her properly. He said he reported the bruising to child protection. He also tried to make complaints to the police, describing that he attended one police station on five occasions, and was "told to go away and stop annoying them". He said he then went to the police commissioner and got a detective to find out about the police officer who was trying to stop him from attending the station and making reports;
(g) the father asserted that X recognised him as her father at that first visit and almost ran towards him - even though she had not seen him since she was a few months old, over two years earlier. He was adamant she remembered him - offering his belief that his ex-wife Ms C was X's guardian angel as the explanation as to how it was that X remembered him. The supervisor's reports do not corroborate the father's recollection of X's reaction to him;
(h) on one supervised visit the father said he put his hand down into X's pullups to see if she was wet or had soiled herself;
(i) it is reported at the conclusion of the third visit that the father took a pair of underpants and a pair of shorts he had brought for X out of his bag and kissed them. The father strenuously denied having done this - and repeatedly called the supervisors liars for having included those statements. He also said he was shocked by these allegations, and guaranteed that "people are getting sued over this" and that he was "going after them";
(j) the father wrote a statement dated 9 March 2023 in which he set out his version of the visit on 24 February 2023. He referred to the supervisors taking him "TO A ROOM THAT I HATE GOING INTO BECAUSE [MR S] AND [ANOTHER SUPERVISOR] HAVE DONE WRONG BY ME IN THAT ROOM". Mr S and the other person are supervisors who the father repeatedly referred to in his evidence as having acted inappropriately at supervised time. The father asserted that Mr S had been removed as a supervisor as a result of his poor behaviour. In a complaint he wrote to the Department of Social Services ("DSS") dated March 2023 the father referred to supervised contact centres as "EVIL" and complained that he had been discriminated against by the staff, treated like "a scumbag" and demoralised as a human being. He asked that 'legal charges' be brought and the staff members stood down;
(k) the father made enquiries with M Company in early 2023 to travel with X to Country B for eight nights. At that time, he had spent just three short, supervised visits with X since separation. In his oral evidence the father insisted he was also going to invite the mother to travel with him and X - an unrealistic proposal in the circumstances, and no invitation was ever made to the mother. The father could not appreciate that it was at that time somewhat premature to be making such enquiries;
(l) the father brought a large knife to the third supervised visit. He accepted this was a specific type of knife. He said it was to cut up fruit. He did not accept this was not an appropriate knife to have brought to a supervised contact service;
(m) the father told Dr H in April 2023 that "I fear for my daughter's life". He said similarly to the Family Report writer that he was worried about X's safety as he regarded the mother as having threatened to murder him;
(n) the father has seen videos of X on Facebook that have been posted by the mother in which he believes he can hear X say or can see her mouth the word "daddy". The father gave convoluted narratives about the videos and the reasons he believed he could make out that X was saying, or mouthing, the word "daddy".
(o) the father believes that the Court system is corrupt - including Dr H, the Family Report writer, the mother's lawyer, the Independent Children's Lawyer and the providers of supervised time. This was repeated throughout the father's evidence;
(p) the father acknowledged he has called the supervisors at Q Family Services "bitches", although he said he did not say this "to their faces" but only to his "mates and family". He said this was appropriate as they treated him like a "scumbag", and like a piece of "faeces in the gutter";
(q) the father said he was not sure whether there would be some sort of retaliatory action by the mother's family at the conclusion of this trial - saying that he did not know what would happen after the hearing, and that he still had some concerns about her family. He was asked if there might be other consequences as a result of the hearing. He responded that there may, or may not be, and "don't poke the bear. I'm the bear";
(r) the father told the Family Report writer that he was worried about overseas war as he had concerns that "people will retaliate against [the mother] and her family. The Family Report writer clarified what he was referring to and he responded "[Country B] people"; and
(s) the father was of the view that the mother and he could walk over to a park, sit together under a tree and sort all of this out together. He did not appear to appreciate that was a highly unrealistic proposition.
...able to provide detailed information about [X] and presented as a responsive and reflective parent who was able to continue to meet [X's] needs.
An important part of this is for the parent to have awareness of their emotional issues and to be addressing them. Self-reflection is an important part of addressing issues. The most reliable predictor of a child attaching to their parent is the parent having a coherent narrative of their life experiences. If a parent has unresolved issues from their own childhood, these can easily get triggered and they can profoundly influence how a parent reacts to their child. A parent needs to own the totality of their history in order to make sense of it. Embracing all that we are can be difficult but it is a necessary step that leads to a sense of compassionate self-acceptance and then to authentic interpersonal connection.
If the DMN isn't working properly in someone with PTSD, they are more likely to take unacceptable risks, they will lack a sound sense of self, they will have difficulty learning from previous experiences, they may lack insight into themselves and social situations and they may not be able to take the perspective of others and to be aware of emotions and the malicious intents of others. These factors are probably affecting [the father].
...have negative beliefs and blame themselves and others and...allocate cognitive resources to looking for potential threats which reduces the cognitive resources they have for other functions.
[the father] did not demonstrate a capacity to view the current situation from [X's] perspective, instead remaining focussed on his experiences and concerns about the manner in which he was perceived and treated. While [the father] clearly held a strong connection to [X] as his daughter, he did not appear to be able to differentiate his views from [X's].
[The father] demonstrated limited reflective capacity remaining focussed on the narrative that [the mother] was barbaric, the volume of lies told about him and his perception of the unjust nature of the Court. Despite attempts to redirect [the father] to discussions about his relationship with [X] and her needs as a young child, he continued to return back to discussions about his concerns.
There is no doubt that the literature suggests children do best when they are able to share safe and positive relationships with both of their parents. Concern exists, however, about [the father's] capacity to provide such a parenting environment to [X] at this time. His continued focus and vitriol about [the mother] was considered likely to prevent him from focussing on [X's] needs for safe, predictable and nurturing care. Until such a time that [the father] has demonstrated meaningful engagement and sustained progress in individualised therapy, both to assist him to manage his strong views about [the mother] as well as provide treatment given his diagnosis of PTSD, there be no consideration of time spending between [the father] and [X]. In order for consideration to be given to [the father] resuming time spending with [X] in a supervised capacity, he will need to demonstrate better insight into the current situation for [X], while demonstrating a capacity to focus on her and a reduction in his preoccupation with his negative views of [the mother]. Given the lack of a foundation of a relationship, any progress towards time spending will need to occur therapeutically to best support [X] in developing a relationship with her father in a manner that is safe and supported.
HOW ARE THE CHILDREN'S BEST INTERESTS ASSESSED?
(a) what arrangements would promote the safety (including safety from being subjected to, or exposed to, family violence, abuse, neglect, or other harm) of:
(i) the child; and
(ii) each person who has care of the child (whether or not a person has parental responsibility for the child);
(b) any views expressed by the child;
(c) the developmental, psychological, emotional and cultural needs of the child;
(d) the capacity of each person who has or is proposed to have parental responsibility for the child to provide for the child's developmental, psychological, emotional and cultural needs;
(e) the benefit to the child of being able to have a relationship with the child's parents, and other people who are significant to the child, where it is safe to do so;
(f) anything else that is relevant to the particular circumstances of the child.
In considering the matters set out in paragraph (2)(a), the court must include consideration of:
(a) any history of family violence, abuse or neglect involving the child or a person caring for the child (whether or not the person had parental responsibility for the child); and
(b) any family violence order that applies or has applied to the child or a member of the child's family.
(a) undermining X's sense of safety and security;
(b) negatively impacting X's relationship with her mother to the extent that X may feel the need to agree with, or even align with her father;
(c) difficulties for X to transition between her parents; and
(d) potential impacts on X's ability to trust others - including peers and intimate partners as she gets older.
Developmental, psychological, emotional, and cultural needs of the child
Capacity of each person who has or is proposed to have parental responsibility for the child to provide for their developmental, psychological, emotional and cultural needs
The benefit to the child of being able to have a relationship with their parents, and other people who are significant to the child
If there is a situation where contact with a parent is on balance likely to cause more harm to the child than good, or even is not likely to confer any benefit, then little purpose is served by this court making orders for such contact.
Any other matters of relevance to the particular circumstances of the child
The history or family violence, abuse or neglect, and any family violence order that applies or has applied
I certify that the preceding one hundred and forty-two (142) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justice Carter.