There is, undoubtedly, a dispute between the Public Trustee or the interests he represents and the administrators, which is likely to result in a hearing to impugn the deed of company arrangement to be executed in consequence of the outcome of the creditors meeting in the company, Octaviar Ltd. The Public Trustee is strongly critical of the administrators in that respect and, in particular, as to the administrators' approach to the validity of a security which was granted to a company, which I will call "Fortress", at the commencement of this year. Now, I do not mean to suggest that I have a view as to the merit of the Public Trustee's complaint in that respect. That will almost inevitably be a matter to be litigated, but the fact that the Public Trustee has that complaint is relevant to the present issue of whether the administrators or people from their firm ought to be liquidators of these two companies.