[2022] FWC 20
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2022-01-31
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
(b) whether the person first became aware of the dismissal after it had taken effect;
(c) any action taken by the person to dispute the dismissal;
(d) prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay);
(f) fairness as between the person and other persons in a similar position.
"On 21/8/2021 I applied for advice to contact a Legal Aid attorney about unfair dismissal.
On 1/9/2021 I had an appointment with the Legal Aid lawyer who contacted me on phone 3 times, and I gave them all the information about my unfair dismissal. The lawyer informed me that the employer had to compensate me for 26 weeks. I asked Legal Aid to submit the complaint form on my behalf for which I have to pay the Legal Aid company 20%. I think the cost is too great for my financial situation because I am unemployed, so I searched for more information websites, and I found the Fair Work Commission and followed the video clip on the internet.
On 3/9/2021 I submitted Form 2 by mail express (post office Inala) to the Fair Work commission by myself.
On 7/9/2021 I found the Job Watch organization, a non-profit agency of the Australian Government to support workers relating to unfair dismissal information on the internet. They will help to correctly apply for unfair dismissal on the right form. I had contacted them on the phone however they don't have an interpreter and I find it very difficult to explain my case.
Job Watch explained to me that Form 2 is correct but Form 8 was a more detailed application to better suit my situation, including everything like unfair dismissal, due to age discrimination, impairment health problems long service leave, and I must make the decision by myself, so I think that Form 8 is better because all aspects of my case is covered in one form.
On 8/9/2021 I submitted to change Form 8 on Wednesday, September 8, 2021, instead of Form 2, which I had initially sent in.
On 14/10/2021 on a phone conciliation meeting took place between the Fair Work Commission representative, Alsco employer, United Worker Union in Australia, and me. After that from this Alsco accepted to pay me only 6 weeks because Form 8 only GENERAL PROTECTION INVOLVING UNFAIR DISMISSAL NOT FOR UNFAIR DISMISSAL
I recognized Form 8 was the wrong application to submit as it did not contain all the aspects of my dismissal for consideration and I found it very difficult to understand what to do with little help as English is not my first language. I speak Vietnamese. So
On 31/10/2021 I had apply form F50 Notice discontinuance case C2021/6195 to Fair Work Commission also I am seeking to resubmit Form F2 to the Fair Work Commission to allow me to be considered for my unfair dismissal by Alsco Pty Ltd."
I refer to our discussion today (with the assistance of an interpreter).
At your request, I attach my email of 14 October 2021 confirming I am holding onto (sic) till C.O.B. Thursday 21 October 2021. As per the email chain below the Respondent confirmed an offer to resolve of 5 weeks and requested I hold onto the file until 4 November 2021.
You have advised that you reject the offer of the Respondent of five weeks and are considering:
For further detail about extension of time see our website (https://www.fwc.gov.au/unfair-dismissals-benchbook/making-application/extension-time-lodging-application#field-content-0-heading)
I have encouraged you to seek legal advice before determining the next step. You have advised that your union is no longer representing you and you may have the opportunity to seek advice from the community legal centre who originally gave you some advice before you lodged your application for general protection."
Whether the person first became aware of the dismissal after it had taken effect
"If the application has no merit then it would not be unfair to refuse to extend the time period for lodgement. However we wish to emphasise that a consideration of the merits of the substantive application for relief in the context of an extension of time application does not require a detailed analysis of the substantive merits. It would be sufficient for the applicant to establish that the substantive application was not without merit."
Fairness as between the person and other persons in a similar position
[1] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975 at [13]
[3] Long v Keolis Downer [2018] FWCFB 4109 at [40]
[4] Shaw v Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited T/A ANZ Bank [2015] FWCFB 287 at [12]; Ozsoy v Monstamac Industries Pty Ltd [2014] FWCFB 2149 at [31]; Diotti v Lenswood Cold Stores Co-op Society t/a Lenswood Organic [2016] FWCFB 349 at [29]- [31]
[5] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901 at [39]
[6] Print P3168, 22 July 1997 per Ross VP, Watson SDP and Gay C.
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ALSCO Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 20