[2023] FWC 585
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Fair Work Commission
2023-08-07
Original judgment source is linked above.
[2023] FWC 585[Note: An appeal pursuant to s.604 (C2023/5118) was lodged against this decision.]
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
"2.4. The location of your work will be as outlined in Schedule 1, however the Employer may direct you to perform your duties at other locations either temporarily or permanently. You may be required to undertake travel as part of your duties.
2.5. You will report directly to the position outlined in Schedule 1, or another position nominated by the Employer from time to time.
2.6. This Agreement will continue to operate in relation to your employment despite any temporary or permanent change in your location, duties, position or reporting line, until terminated in accordance with this Agreement or replaced by a new agreement made in writing between you and the Employer."
(a) report to the person(s) named in Schedule 1, or to such other person as the Employer may direct from time to time;
(b) serve the Employer faithfully and diligently and in a conscientious and professional manner;
(c) act in the Employer's best interests at all times and not do anything which may directly or indirectly impair the good name and reputation of the Employer;
(d) refrain from acting, or being seen to act, in conflict with the Employer's best interests and disclose to the Employer any matter which you, acting reasonably, consider is or may potentially be in conflict with the commercial or strategic interests of the Employer;"
"9.2. Except as otherwise provided in this Agreement, you agree that your salary has been calculated to compensate you for all ordinary hours, all additional hours that you work in order to fulfil the requirements of your position and all other obligations under this Agreement. You will not be paid any additional penalty rates, overtime rates, allowances or loadings, unless expressly agreed with the Employer in advance."
16.1. The Employer will reimburse you for any authorised and reasonable business‐related expenses which you incur in the performance of your duties, subject to you providing tax receipts or other reasonable documentary evidence acceptable to the Employer."
"I then had contacted You regarding the house and offered the Idea of the lease being in the company name and if you could drop in to have a chat about it.
You did so the next day and after me reminding you of my Bankruptcy, I did not want to take any chances of the application being rejected and I was moving there PURELY for Roof Safes advantage, or I would of moved to where I planned, back North of the River and there would more than likely be some type of tax benefits (which I would confirm exactly what with Dexter), which you then had already said sure no problem.
Now I don't remember if Michelle typed the letter or me or if Michelle was a Witness but Michelle knew of this, as did you since you signed the letter.
That letter was immediately, sent through to the Real Estate as I also completed the lease questions through a link sent by the Real Estate."
"I am writing to you regarding Max Vincent our CEO and his interest to rent the premises at 31 Draycott Loop, Canning Vale.
I am confirming that Roof Safe is willing to have the lease in their name and rent payments will be made by Roof Safe.
If you need any further regarding Max moving in ASAP, please do not hesitate to contact me direct on ..."
"Q1. What Max believed his tasks or duties were as CEO?
Q2. Why Max believed he has the right to use company funds in any way he sees fit?
Q3. Why he believed he could enter into a residential tenancy agreement.
Q4. Explain your expenses (eg: ACP Mechanical Services/Amart Furniture).
Q5. Does Max understand Jim's role as a sole Direction. Whether he understands that Jim is the only decision maker in Roof Safe as to all expenses incurred by Roof Safe (e.g. Jim had to sign off on all expenses)?
Q7. Ask Max to explain why he paid himself $45k & who authorized this, is he aware Jim should sign off on all expenses
Q8. Ask Max why he failed to meet loan repayments required by Roof Safe, such as ANZ, Macquarie & Latrobe.
Q9. Why did you stop making payments to the ATO?"
"1.1. Between 5 August 2022 and 12 September 2022, you caused/instructed expenses/withdrawals in the total sum of approximately $28,000 to be incurred by Roof Safe, which are described on Roof Safe's bank statements/online transaction history as:
1.2. You caused Roof Safe to enter into, and be liable for, a residential lease agreement for a property located at 31 Draycott Loop, Canning Vale ("the Rental Property"), which is your place of residence.
1.3. You caused Roof Safe to incur ongoing costs associated with the Rental Property, which is for your personal benefit such as:
a. Rental payments of$1360.00 per fortnight accumulated over the period of 22 August 22 to 4 October 2022.
b. A rental/security bond of $2720 paid on the 19 August 2022.
1.4. You caused Roof Safe to incur substantial costs associated with modifications, alterations to a work vehicle (Registration No."1GGH874") ("the Vehicle") that was provided to you by Roof Safe.
1.5. You caused the company to fall behind on its financial and taxation obligations by causing the company to divert funds away from paying the following:
a. Roof Safe's Australian Taxation Office/Superannuation instalments
1.6. You accessed Roof Safe's bank accounts and diverted/transferred funds as you saw fit.
1.7. Between 25 July 2022 and 14 September 2022, during this period, without seeking
approval from Mr. Hayman, you took it upon yourself to do reduced hours at work.
1.8. Between 15 August 2022 and 9 September 2022, during this period, you were
uncontactable and/or it is alleged that you were evading communication with Roof Safe and/or Mr. Hayman."
Was Mr Vincent's dismissal a case of genuine redundancy?
Was Mr Vincent's dismissal consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code?
Was the Application made within the period required?
Was the dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable?
".... It may be that the termination is harsh but not unjust or unreasonable, unjust but not harsh or unreasonable, or unreasonable but not harsh or unjust. In many cases the concepts will overlap. Thus, the one termination of employment may be unjust because the employee was not guilty of the misconduct on which the employer acted, may be unreasonable because it was decided upon inferences which could not reasonably have been drawn from the material before the employer, and may be harsh in its consequences for the personal and economic situation of the employee or because it is disproportionate to the gravity of the misconduct in respect of which the employer acted."[72]
Was there a valid reason for the dismissal related to Mr Vincent's capacity or conduct?
"From the time we opened the new account I made many purchase from various suppliers, retailers and online shopping with the debit card. Nearly 98% of purchases are always for Roof Safe and sometimes for me ..."
(c) in entering into this Agreement, you have not relied on any direct or indirect conduct or representation of the Employer or any of its directors, officers, employees or agents (or anyone authorised by any of them), or any matter other than the terms expressed in this Agreement;
27.1. This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties and supersedes all prior understanding or agreements whether oral or in writing. Any amendment to the Agreement must be agreed to in writing by the parties."
"(b) serve the Employer faithfully and diligently and in a conscientious and professional manner;
(c) act in the Employer's best interests at all times and not do anything which may directly or indirectly impair the good name and reputation of the Employer;
(d) refrain from acting, or being seen to act, in conflict with the Employer's best interests and disclose to the Employer any matter which you, acting reasonably, consider is or may potentially be in conflict with the commercial or strategic interests of the Employer;"
"9.2. Except as otherwise provided in this Agreement, you agree that your salary has been calculated to compensate you for all ordinary hours, all additional hours that you work in order to fulfil the requirements of your position and all other obligations under this Agreement. You will not be paid any additional penalty rates, overtime rates, allowances or loadings, unless expressly agreed with the Employer in advance."
16.1. The Employer will reimburse you for any authorised and reasonable business‐related expenses which you incur in the performance of your duties, subject to you providing tax receipts or other reasonable documentary evidence acceptable to the Employer."
"As agreed for the current CCTV Solution and renovations being completed at Roof Safe 29 Tulloch way, Canning Vale on completion you are to invoice Roof Safe Pty Ltd with your personal ABN."
Despite any other provisions of this Agreement, in cases of serious misconduct, the Employer may dismiss you without giving notice (or making payment in lieu). Circumstances which may amount to serious misconduct include, but are not limited to, the following:
(a) engaging in dishonest conduct or other gross misconduct (including, but not limited to theft, fraud, assault, being intoxicated at work, refusing to carry out the Employer's lawful and reasonable instructions that are consistent with your employment and this Agreement);
(b) wilful or deliberate behaviour that is inconsistent with the continuation of your employment;
(c) conduct that causes serious and imminent risk to the health or safety of a person or the reputation, viability or profitability of the Employer's business;
(d) gross incompetence or wilful neglect of duty, or committing any other serious breach of any of the provisions of this Agreement;
(e) committing or assisting in the commission of an act of fraud or criminal offence; or
(f) acting in a manner (whether in the course of your duties or otherwise) which, in the Employer's view, does or is likely to bring you or the Employer into serious disrepute."
Was Mr Vincent given an opportunity to respond to any valid reason related to his capacity or conduct?
Did Roof Safe unreasonably refuse to allow Mr Vincent to have a support person present to assist at discussions relating to the dismissal?
"This factor will only be a relevant consideration when an employee asks to have a support person present in a discussion relating to dismissal and the employer unreasonably refuses. It does not impose a positive obligation on employers to offer an employee the opportunity to have a support person present when they are considering dismissing them." [112]
Was Mr Vincent warned about unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal?
To what degree would the size of Roof Safe's enterprise be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal?
"Acting reasonably does not require a single course of action. Different employers may approach the matter differently and form different conclusions, perhaps giving more benefit of any doubt, but still be acting reasonably. The legislation requires a consideration of whether the particular employer, in determining its course of action in relation to the employee at the time of dismissal, carried out a reasonable investigation, and reached a reasonable conclusion in all the circumstances. Those circumstances include the experience and resources of the small business employer concerned."[116]
To what degree would the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in Roof Safe's enterprise be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal?

Applicant's final closing written submissions, 3 May 2023.
Respondent's final closing written submissions, 17 May 2023.
[1] Warrell v Walton [2013] FCA 291; (2013) 233 IR 335, 341 [22].
[13] Ibid 78, Transcript 17 March 2023 PN909-PN921.
[33] Transcript 17 March 2023 at PN989 - PN1012.
[34] Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN160.
[38] Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN277-PN279
[45] Ibid 122. Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN194-PN195.
[46] Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN190-PN195
[50] Mr Vincent says that the text was sent on 29 September at DCB 8 but it is apparent from DCB 42 that it was sent on 28 September.
[64] Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s 383.
[72] (1995) 185 CLR 410, 465 (McHugh and Gummow JJ).
[73] Sayer v Melsteel Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 7498, 4 [14]; Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB), (Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [69].
[74] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[76] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681, 685.
[77] Culpeper v Intercontinental Ship Management Pty Ltd [2004] AIRC 261; (2004) 134 IR 243.
[82] Ibid 686, Transcript, 17 March 2023 at PN1032-PN1035, PN1040, PN1088-PN1094, 449.
[86] Transcript, 17 March 2023 at PN1017-1018
[92] Transcript, 17 March 2023 at PN1032-PN1034.
[93] Transcript, 17 March 2023 at PN1063-PN1069.
[95] Ibid 680, Transcript, 17 March 2023 at PN1103-1104, PN1108-1113.
[97] Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN160.
[100] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd (2000) 98 IR 137, 151 [73].
[101] Previsic v Australian Quarantine Inspection Services Print Q3730 (AIRC, Holmes C, 6 October 1998).
[105] Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology v Asher [2010] FWAFB 1200; (2010) 194 IR 1, 14 - 15 [26] quoting Gibson v Bosmac Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 222; (1995) 60 IR 1, 7 (Wilcox CJ).
[106] Gibson v Bosmac Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 222; (1995) 60 IR 1, 7 (Wilcox CJ).
[112] Explanatory Memorandum, Fair Work Bill 2008 (Cth), DCB (n2) [1542].
[114] Jetstar v Meetson-Lemkes [2013] FWCFB 9075; (2013) 239 IR 1, 21 - 22 [68].
[116] John Pinawin T/A RoseVi.Hair.Face.Body v Mr Edwin Domingo [2012] FWAFB 1359, [30].
[118] Transcript 17 April 2023 at PN197-198.
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Mr Max Vincent
Roof Safe Pty Ltd [2023] FWC 585
(2013) 233 IR 335
(1995) 185 CLR 410
(1995) 62 IR 371
(1996) 142 ALR 681
(2004) 134 IR 243
(2000) 98 IR 137
(2010) 194 IR 1
(1995) 60 IR 1
(2013) 239 IR 1