[2025] FWC 3839
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-12-15
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Application for unfair dismissal remedy
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - multiple jurisdictional objections raised - Applicant alleged to not have met the minimum employment period - Applicant not dismissed within the meaning of section 386 of the Act - dismissal alleged to be a case of genuine redundancy - Applicant found to have been dismissed - dismissal found to not have been a case of genuine redundancy - consultation obligations not followed - jurisdictional objections dismissed - merits of the application considered - valid reason found - application dismissed.
(a) the person is an employee who has completed a period of employment with his or her employer of at least the minimum employment period; and
(ii) an enterprise agreement applies to the person in relation to the employment;
(iii) the sum of the person's annual rate of earnings, and such other amounts (if any) worked out in relation to the person in accordance with the regulations, is less that the high-income threshold.
(1) An employee's period of employment with an employer at a particular time is the period of continuous service the employee has completed with the employer at that time as an employee.
(a) a period of service as a casual employee does not count towards the employees period of employment unless:
(i) the employment as a casual employee was on a regular and systematic basis; and
(ii) during the period of service as a casual employee, the employee had a reasonable expectation of continuing employment by the employer on a regular and systematic basis.
Was Mr Argent Dismissed within the meaning of the FW Act
(1) A person's dismissal was a case of genuine redundancy if:
(a) The employer no longer required the person's job to be performed by anyone because of changes in the operational requirements of the employer's enterprise; and
(b) The employer has complied with any obligation in a modern award or enterprise agreement that applied to the employment to consult about the redundancy.
(2) A person's dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy if it would have been reasonable in all the circumstances for the person to be redeployed within:
(b) The enterprise of an associated entity of the employer.
Award or Enterprise Agreement Coverage - Consultation Obligation
"However, it is within the employer's prerogative to rearrange the organisational structure by breaking up the collection of functions, duties and responsibilities attached to a single position and distributing them among the holders of other position, including newly created positions. It is inappropriate now to attempt an exhaustive description of the methods by which a reorganisation of that kind may be achieved. One illustration of it occurs when the duties of a single, full time, employee are redistributed to several part-time employees. What is critical for the purpose of identifying a redundancy is whether the holder of the former position has, after the reorganisation, any duties left to discharge. If there is no longer any function or duty to be performed by that person, his or her position, becomes redundant."
Was Mr Argent's Dismissal Harsh, Unjust or Unreasonable
In considering whether it is satisfied that a dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable, the FWC must take into account:
(a) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other employees); and
(b) whether the person was notified of that reason; and
(c) whether the person was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to the capacity or conduct of the person; and
(d) any unreasonable refusal by the employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal; and
(e) if the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person--whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal; and
(f) the degree to which the size of the employer's enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(g) the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(h) any other matters that the FWC considers relevant."
s.387(a) Whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other employees)
s.387(b) Whether the person was notified of that reason
s.387(c) Whether the person was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to the capacity or conduct of the person
s.387(d) Any unreasonable refusal by the employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to dismissal
s.387(e) If the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person--whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal
s.387(f) The degree to which the size of the employer's enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal and s.387(g) - Whether the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise impacted on the procedures followed
s.387(h) Any other matters that the FWC considers relevant

[1] Applicant's Submissions dated 8 September 2025, Witness Statement of Jason Argent dated 8 September 2025, Digital Court Book ('DCB') p.3-10.
[2] Witness Statement of Peter Fusca dated 25 August 2025, DCB p.122-124
[3] Witness Statement of Jason Argent dated 8 September 2025 at [16] - [20], DCB p.8-9.
[4] Harrison Smith v City of Stonnington [2013] FWC 978 at [20]- [21] and Ponce v DJT Staff Management Services Pty Ltd T/A Daly's Traffic [2010] FWA 2078.
[5] Witness Statement of Peter Fusca dated 25 August 2025 at [31], DCB p.125,184.
[6] Transcript of Proceedings on 6 October 2025 at PN221.
[8] Khayam v Navitas English Pty Ltd t/a Navitas English [2017] FWCFB 5162.
[14] Annexure I, Supplementary Witness Statement of Peter Fusca dated 2 October 2025, DCB p.184.
[15] Ibid, Annexure J at record [730], DCB p.205.
[17] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371 [373].
[19] Walton v Mermaid Dry Cleaners Pty Ltd [1996] IRCA 267; (1996) 142 ALR 681 at [685].
[20] Bartlett v Ingleburn Bus Services Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 6429 at [19]; Reseigh v Stegbar Pty Ltd [2020] FWCFB 533 at [55].
[21] Crozier v Palazzo Corporation Pty Ltd (2000) 98 IR 137 at [151].
[22] Previsic v Australian Quarantine Inspection Services Print Q3730 (AIRC, Holmes C, 6 October 1998).
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