Mei Ying Su v Australian Fisheries Management Authority No 2
[2008] FCA 1485
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Federal Court of Australia
Decision date
2008-10-03
Before
Reeves J
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (17 paragraphs)
Introduction 24 The first central issue for determination is whether AFMA has established that the Mitra was being used for commercial fishing while it was in the AFZ. On this issue AFMA has relied upon observations made by Royal Australian Navy personnel shortly after they boarded the Mitra, in submitting that the inference should be drawn that the Mitra had been used for commercial fishing "some 3 - 4 hours" before it was boarded. These observations concerned the condition of the equipment on the Mitra, the presence of fish on the deck of the Mitra and the condition of some fish in the freezer of the Mitra. AFMA has also relied upon a number of inconsistencies which it says exist in the evidence of the Master, the Chief Engineer and the crew of the Mitra on this and other issues. 25 While much of the evidence at hearing was directed to this issue, I do not consider it necessary to do more than set out a summary of the main parts. This is because there is other independent, objective evidence which I consider establishes that it is unlikely that the Mitra could have been used for commercial fishing while it was in the AFZ. I will briefly refer to, and make some observations on, the evidence of the owners and of AFMA before turning to consider that independent and objective evidence.
The crew and the Master deny the Mitra was used for commercial fishing 26 There is no direct evidence that the Mitra was being used for commercial fishing while it was within the AFZ. In their interviews with AFMA personnel, conducted some days after they arrived in Darwin Harbour on 2 April 2008, and while they were in detention, the crew members of the Mitra variously stated: that the fishing nets had last been hauled onto the boat about 10 hours before the boat was boarded (according to Mr Song Shi Young); that the last episode of fishing had occurred on the afternoon of 29 March 2008 (according to Mr Xiao Hai Zheng), or that the last fishing occurred on the morning of 29 March 2008 when it was "nearly noon" (according to Mr Zheng Shi Xeng). 27 There are some obvious inconsistencies in these various versions. However, they are all consistent in claiming that the Mitra was last used for fishing before it began its run south. Moreover, they are all consistent in claiming that no fishing occurred in the 3 to 4 hour period before the Mitra was boarded, as is asserted by AFMA. 28 The Master said in evidence that he was certain that there had been no fishing in Australian waters at any time and that there had been no fishing for at least 24 hours before entering Australian waters. On its face, this evidence is inconsistent with the statements of the crew members who put this intervening period at between 10 and 18 hours. However, it is broadly consistent with the statements that the Master made in his interview with CPOB Manley soon after the Mitra was boarded and it becomes more consistent with the statements of the crew members when the explanations he gave in cross-examination are taken into account. The interview with CPOB Manley was conducted through an interpreter, using numbered interpreter cards. The relevant details appear in CPOB Manley's affidavit as follows: I then proceeded to ask the Master a number of further questions using the Indonesian and Taiwanese cards. Among the questions asked, and the Master's answers were: In response to being shown Indonesian card 21 and Taiwanese card 16 which both ask "How many days have you been in the area?", the Master responded one day. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 18 which asks "How many days have you fished here?", the Master indicated that he had not been fishing in this area. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 24 which asks "How long has your fishing equipment been in the water?", the Master responded not in this area. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 27 which asks "Have you caught any fish in the area?", the Master answered that he had not caught any fish in this area. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 31 which states "You are currently in Australian water", the Master disputed his position and claimed that the position on the vessel's GPS indicated that he was in Indonesian waters and not in the Australian area. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 33 which states "It is illegal to fish here without a license", the Master replied that he was not fishing here, but in Indonesian waters. In response to being shown Taiwanese card 34 which asks "Why are you in this area?", the Master responded that the engine was broken. In response to being shown Indonesian card 32 which asks "Which country's waters are you currently in?", the Master responded that he was in Indonesian waters, and pointed at the vessel's GPS indicating from the vessel's position up as Indonesian waters. … After the Master stated during the questioning that Mitra 2139's engine had broken, I asked him [h]ow long to repair the engine and he replied one day. I then repeated the question and asked "one day to repair engine?", to which the Master nodded his head and replied "yes". [emphasis added] 29 In his cross-examination by Mr Macliver (Counsel for AFMA), the Master explained what he meant by his statements (above) that he had been in the area "one day" and the engine was under repair "one day" as set out in the following excerpt of transcript: QUESTION: Mr Macliver: Could the witness be shown Mr Manley's affidavit? Mr Jang, can you look at the card marked number 34. It's page 24 to Mr Manley's affidavit, annexure RCM3. That asks does your engine work. ANSWER: The interpreter: I told them we still repairing. QUESTION: Mr Macliver: Yes, you told them the engine was broken? ANSWER: The interpreter: Yes, he told them they were still repairing. QUESTION: Mr Macliver: And did you also say that the engine had broken down and had been repaired for about a day? ANSWER: The interpreter: Yes. I tell them that we - the engine is broken and we have been repaired a day. A Chinese day is not been 24 hours. Chinese day is today. Chinese means - "one day" it means "today". MR MACLIVER: Thank you, Mr Jang. THE INTERPRETER: Yes, "a day" means "today". 30 Given that he had stopped at about midnight on 29 March 2008 and the Chief Engineer commenced work on the engine shortly thereafter, the Master's explanation that the engine had broken down and was being repaired "today" and not "one day" is plausible. AFMA submitted that this explanation should not be accepted, but did not call any evidence to challenge the claim the Master made (that 'one day' means 'today' in Chinese). I therefore reject AFMA's submission. 31 This exchange between the Master and Mr Macliver exhibits communications problems similar to others that arose during the hearing of this matter. It seems likely that such problems would have been present throughout the process, dating back to the time the Mitra was boarded. In my view these problems stem from language difficulties and cultural differences. Another example of the language difficulties arose in relation to the expression "broken down" and whether it meant "having problems with the engine" (burning a lot of oil for example), or whether it meant the engine was not operating at all. Another example of the cultural differences arose over the length of the Master's experience as the Master of the Mitra. He claimed he was appointed in 2004. He was challenged in cross-examination with a document obtained from the Taiwanese authorities that seemed to suggest that he was appointed in 1991. His explanation in cross-examination was to the effect that 2004 in the Western calendar was the equivalent of 1991 in the Taiwanese calendar. While AFMA maintained this attack on the Master's veracity during its initial closing submissions, it conceded in a subsequent set of submissions, by agreement with the owners, that the Master was correct. 32 The owners filed an affidavit by Ms Yu-Yen Chen. Ms Chen described in some detail the communications problems she witnessed the Master and the crew experiencing from, what she claimed was, incorrect interpretation. She said she thought these problems were further compounded by the technical language used in relation to commercial fishing. She also noted that the Master had a strong Taiwanese accent while other members of the crew were from two different provinces of China and had strong accents from the dialects they spoke.She gave various examples of what she said were "wrong translations" of words such as "charts" (she claimed that word would only be understood as "sea map" in Mandarin), "border", "EEZ", "bridge", "reluctant", "route" and "symbol". 33 While I am dealing with the question of the Master's credit, I should mention that AFMA also challenged the Chief Engineer's credit, in particular, in relation to his evidence about having worked on the engine of the Mitra for about five hours after it stopped. To do so, AFMA called Mr Ronald Halstead, a Marine Surveyor, to give some opinion evidence as to how long it would take to do the work that the Chief Engineer claimed he performed on the engine. Mr Halstead's evidence was to the effect that it would take approximately 15 hours to replace the piston rings on the two cylinders of the Mitra's engine. I reject this evidence. In my view, Mr Halstead did not have sufficient direct experience or knowledge of the relevant circumstances to allow him to express this opinion. He said in cross-examination that he last did any 'hands-on' work as an engineer on the engine of a boat in 1969 and most of his experience in the past 30 to 40 years has been in an administrative or managerial capacity. Further, he agreed in cross-examination that he has never replaced the piston rings on an engine of the same kind as the Mitra's engine and he also agreed that he had no knowledge of the Chief Engineer's skills as an engineer, or his speed of work. Having rejected this evidence, I see no reason not to accept the Chief Engineer's evidence that he worked on the Mitra's engine for about five hours after it stopped. 34 Having seen the Master and the Chief Engineer cross-examined in the witness box, and taking into account the various communications problems noted above, my impression was that most, if not all, of the apparent inconsistencies in their evidence arose from language difficulties and cultural differences. I consider that they were both doing their best when giving their evidence to accurately describe what had happened, whilst displaying some natural frustration about the communication problems that had beset them.