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[2016] ACAT 82
ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2016-07-22
Original judgment source is linked above.
MARSHALL v FRANK UGOLINI AND JUDY BURAI TRADING AS BUBS N GRUBS (Civil Dispute) [2016] ACAT 82
Catchwords: CIVIL DISPUTE - Australian Consumer Law - acceptable quality - free of defects - whether a reasonable consumer would regard goods as acceptable -refund as remedy
Legislation cited: ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2008 ss 16, 17, 18, 48
Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth) sch 2 ss 11, 54, 61, 260, 262, 271
Fair Trading (Australian Consumer Law) Act 1992 (ACT) s 6, 11
Subordinate
Legislation: Court Procedure Rules 2006 r 2002, 2004
Can you please kindly ask your customer to return the Sova chest for assessment. As the drawers are custom made for each chest we are unable to just swap over the drawer as we need to ensure the drawers fit correctly.
With regards to the Kaylula Sova Cot panel this does not appear to be a scratch to the panel but a little clouding which is part of the natural effects of acrylic glass and unfortunately cannot be avoided as it is part of the properties of this process. If [it] is a scratch which is superficial, it can be wiped off with Mothers California Gold Scratch Remover from Super Cheap which will not damage the panel.
The manufacturer has returned this chest and cot part resolved.
The cot part was not faulty - just needed to be wiped.
The owner has spoken to the manufacturer and your chest and cot part were personally inspected by the owner of the manufacturer.
The chest was fully replaced with a brand new one and inspected.
It was noted that the drawers that were sent up to us were damaged by using force to remove the lower drawers.
These drawers are not designed to be removed. The only thing we can think of is maybe the drawer[s] have been attempted to be fully removed from the chest and caused damage again?
There is no mechanisms for these drawers which are not soft close - they were tested and the soft close definitely works.
Perhaps you can send a short video from your phone showing the issue.
In regards to the cot part, it again was checked by several people - and there was no issue with marks on it. In fact, the original one was able to be wiped clean. Again, perhaps you can send a photo showing the issue with this part.
I will attach a video to entertain you but I will not be blamed in any way for damage to either set of drawers! To accuse us of this is really poor form ... We have in no way attempted to remove any of the drawers at all. If you see the last photos of your product, it is actually still in the wrap as it was sent. We only peeled away the front of the plastic to inspect.
Also the said wiped down perspex is still in the same poor condition.
Your items will be fully packaged tonight (as most is (sic) still in the wrappings) in await of a refund to us. Please indicate the best way for this transaction to happen by COB Tuesday.
This was the outcome of their assessment by their engineers and owners.
The chest was replaced despite their assessment as was the cot part.
We have simply passed on the feedback from the manufacturers experts.
Please provide the evidence requested and we will respond accordingly once we can see what you are referring to.
The manufacturer has advised that this is a faulty runner.
They have organised the replacement part to be air freighted from their factory.
As this is an easy fix and a minor fault, they will be sending this to you as soon as it arrives along with instructions to install the part which is apparently very easy to do.
Are you serious? Please ..... We are not in any way going to attempt to repair your faulty product. Firstly this is not in any way what a customer is obligated to do and secondly [it] would open us up to liability for any further damage to the unit. Also note that we still have the issue with the poorly manufactured perspex which IS NOT AN EASY FIX BY WIPING OFF.
This is a minor fault and it takes less than a couple of minutes to remove the drawer and swap the rail.
Thank you for the reply but as stated, we will not be doing repairs to your products. I come to the understanding that your company is unwilling to produce a refund for the goods in which [sic] we are entitled under the Australian Consumer Law Act.
As an act of good faith, the manufacturer has agreed to have this collected from you.
We have provided them with your pickup address and phone number - they are organising this directly.
I am happy to hear this and [it] will save us all a lot of time. Please have the manufacturer contact us directly to arrange a reasonable time for collection and means of our refund in full.
[My husband] will be home for collection on the arranged time and will discuss the refund details with them before collection is made. Payment was made via credit card and funds can be deposited directly back onto this card.
The refund will not be organised until the goods have been returned safely and checked upon receipt.
The courier will be in contact to organise a collection time over the next 2 business days.
Once [the cot] is received and checked, we will contact you to get your payment details again as we do not keep card details on file.
Please see attached a photo of all 4 boxes/items ready for collection, all 4 boxes/items on the toll ipec truck at pick up on Thursday 25/8/15, a signed note for the Canberra Toll ipec driver and the signed con note from toll ipec. As you have now taken delivery of the complete order that we placed, we would now appreciate our full money ($1853) back within 48 hours.
When the items arrive at the manufacturer safely and are assessed, we will process a refund subject to the assessment.
This subject has been escalated to me due to the nature of the conversations and the outcomes of your warranty claim as well as threats and false allegations against us and the manufacturer.
I have personally now inspected today both the original chest of drawers that was replaced in good faith as well as the cot and the second chest of drawers.
I was asked by the manufacturer to inspect it along with their engineer.
I fully support their position that they are taking on this after spending a lot of time personally to understand the history and issues.
Our team advised that from the image, the cot bassinet part just required to be wiped clean and recommended a product to be used with the acrylic.
You advised the cot part could not be wiped clean and had a fault.
Despite this - to try to keep a customer happy, we both agreed to replace the drawers as an act of good faith despite there being no manufacturing fault and their engineer showing it was caused through miss-use.
We also spent considerable money [to] pay for the freight to send these back to you along with the whole cot which again did not have a manufacturing fault.
There is no way that this has been caused by any other way then miss-use ie forcible removing the drawers from the chest.
The costs for the manufacturer of 5 futile pickups due to you not being at the delivery address when agreed by you with the courier and the collection of both the cot, chest and bedding are at $250
Our costs for collections and returns are approx. double.
On top of that- our costs for investigating false claims, staff labour costs dealing with this and responding to your allegations/organising returns etc. and warranty claims have become very significant along with the cost of the replacement drawers at no cost to you - in fact - the costs are nothing less than ridiculous.
Our team has worked hard to keep you happy and yet, these false warranty claims, threats to involve ACCC and others continue.
Due to the considerable costs run up due to this - I fully support the manufacturers position and offer below subject to agreement to certain conditions.
The manufacturer is offering to repair the drawers that have been damaged free of charge.
The manufacturer is seeking payment of $250 for the freight wasted on both the futile pick-ups and collection of the cot and chest and bedding back to them.
We are prepared to forgo [sic] the loss in courier costs we have paid which is approx. double that as well is the cost of the replacement set of drawers which totals the costs well and truly higher than the cost of another set of drawers - nearly twice. As well as our labour costs and more.
The terms and conditions that we are prepared to do this is as follows:
Payment of $250 for the manufacturer's freight within 72 hours. Collection by your courier paid by you within 4 business days of them advising you that the repair has been completed, from the manufacturers premises at a reasonable time.
Agreement by you to put this to bed and not to cause any further wastage of our or the manufacturers resources or legal action/complaints or damage to their business or ours.
The other option which we are both more than happy to go with, in fact, we believe would be better for us, would be to take this to court. We intend in this situation seeking all of our costs for both the manufacturer's couriers costs, our couriers costs, the cost of the replacement drawers which were falsely claimed as a manufacturing fault, the labour for assessments, managing and investigating and processing these claims and the false allegations made of us.
We are happy for you to involve the ACCC also if you do not take us up on this offer as we have not broken the law and this is nothing less than an unethical process - we believe based on the evidence at hand (images and our own video both chest of drawers) that it is likely that this has been done in an effort to force a full refund - possibly due to change of mind or some other reason. this however will just be another waste of the ACCC resources and ours as well as yours.
As a small business, I am not going to be taken advantage of any longer and taking a firm stance on this as well as the manufacturer.
You are welcome to agree in writing to our terms and conditions above and pay for the manufacturers courier costs of $250, organise your own courier to collect from them once we have received payment.
Or you are welcome to go to court and we are happy to bring all of our evidence both photo's of both chests, video and photos of the cot part which proves this is not a manufacturing fault and seek all of our costs as well as the manufacturers costs.
We are not prepared to negotiate any further on this.
Please advise how you wish to proceed ASAP to avoid storage costs on top of this.
I am having trouble sending you the images - I will continue now in a separate email.
(a) a person supplies, in trade or commerce, goods to a consumer; and
(b) the supply does not occur by way of sale by auction;
there is a guarantee that the goods are of acceptable quality.
(2) Goods are of acceptable quality if they are as:
(a) fit for all the purposes for which goods of that kind are commonly supplied; and
as a reasonable consumer fully acquainted with the state and condition of the goods (including any hidden defects of the goods), would regard as acceptable having regard to the matters in subsection (3).
(3) The matters for the purposes of subsection (2) are:
(c) any statements made about the goods on any packaging or label on the goods; and
(d) any representation made about the goods by the supplier or manufacturer of the goods; and
(e) any other relevant circumstances relating to the supply of the goods.
(a) goods supplied to a consumer are not of acceptable quality; and
(b) the only reason or reasons why they are not of acceptable quality were specifically drawn to the consumer's attention before the consumer agreed to the supply;
(b) the goods would not be of acceptable quality if they were supplied to a consumer;
the reason or reasons why they are not of acceptable quality are taken, for the purposes of subsection (4), to have been specifically drawn to a consumer's attention if those reasons were disclosed on a written notice that was displayed with the goods and that was transparent.
(6) Goods do not fail to be of acceptable quality if:
(a) the consumer to whom they are supplied causes them to become of unacceptable quality, or fails to take reasonable steps to prevent them from becoming of unacceptable quality; and
(7) Goods do not fail to be of acceptable quality if:
(a) the consumer acquiring the goods examines them before the consumer agrees to the supply of the goods; and
(b) the examination ought reasonably to have revealed that the goods were not of acceptable quality.
(ii) if they were supplied by reference to a Sample or demonstration model - from that sample or demonstration model.
(2) The rejection period for goods is the period from the time of the supply of the goods to the consumer within which it would be reasonable to expect the relevant failure to comply with a guarantee referred to in section 259(1)(b) to become apparent having regard to:
(b) the use to which a consumer is likely to put them; and
(c) the length of time for which it is reasonable for them to be used; and
(d) the amount of use to which it is reasonable for them to be put before such a failure becomes apparent.
[1] The Fair Trading (Australian Consumer Law) Act 1992 (ACT), section 6(a) relevantly includes the Australian Consumer Law at schedule 2 to the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth), and section 7 permits it to be referred to as The Australian Consumer Law (ACT)
MARSHALL
FRANK UGOLINI AND JUDY BURAI TRADING AS BUBS N GRUBS