3.4.2 The primary judge erred in the construction of "other interests" in s 225(c) of the NTA
129 As earlier mentioned, insofar as the native title determinations in the Bindunbur and Jabirr Jabirr native title applications identified public access and enjoyment of areas confirmed by s 14 of the TVA to be "other interests" for the purposes of s 225(c) of the NTA, they were made over the objections of the claimants. Specifically, the Bindunbur and the Jabirr Jabirr contended before the primary judge and on appeal, that before the Court could determine "other interests" in relevant terms, the State or any relevant respondent needed to satisfy the Court that the public were possessed of an existing right of access to and enjoyment of the waterways, beds and banks or foreshores of waterways, or beaches in the areas. In the alternative, if the effect of s 212 of the NTA and s 14 of the TVA was to recognise physical public access to and enjoyment of such areas at common law or under statute, the Bindunbur and the Jabirr Jabirr contended that the Court needed to be satisfied that, at the time the NTA commenced operation, the public physically enjoyed such access to identified areas. Neither requirement, they contend, was satisfied here. We note no challenge was made to the validity of s 14 of the TVA in the Court below, but only to its proper construction. The same position was adopted by the Bindunbur and the Jabirr Jabirr in the appeals before us.
130 The primary judge, at [644] of the primary judgment, held that the public access to which s 212 of the NTA and s 14 of the TVA refer falls within the definition of "interest" in s 253 of the NTA and therefore amounts to an other interest for the purposes of a determination of "the nature and extent of any other interests" under s 225(c) of the NTA.
131 The primary judge subsequently held, at [20] of the supplementary judgment, that the "ability" of the public to access and enjoy "coastal areas" because access was not prohibited at material times, was properly to be characterised as a "privilege" for the purposes of para (b) of the s 253 definition of the word "interest", and therefore amounted to an other interest referred to in s 225(c). In so holding, the primary judge rejected the claimants' argument that the only "other interests" that could be determined under s 225(c) of the NTA were the public common law rights to fish and to navigate seaward of the common law high water mark. The primary judge also rejected the related argument that the public access interest should be limited to areas seaward of the common law high water mark.
132 In relation to the Bindunbur determination, as we have noted above, the primary judge held, at [22] and [23] of the supplementary judgment, that:
22 The reserves in question commence at the high water mark as prescribed by the LAA. It is accepted by the parties that the statutory high water mark is further landward than the common law high water mark. The effect of the Bindunbur applicants' formulation would be to exclude from the area of public access and enjoyment a band of land between the statutory high water mark and the common law high water mark. There is no warrant for that outcome. The ability of the public to access and enjoy the area seaward of the statutory high water mark is the relevant other interest.
23 It follows that the description of the areas where the interest of the public to access and enjoy is to be recognised in the Bindunbur application area proposed by the State should be adopted.
133 As to the different description of the public access in the Jabirr Jabirr determination, as we have also noted above, his Honour said, at [24] of the supplementary judgment that:
24 The ability of the public to access and enjoy coastal areas in the Jabirr Jabirr application area requires a different description because the areas in question relate to unallocated Crown land or parts of unallocated Crown land rather than reserve areas as in the case of the Bindunbur application area. Nonetheless, the issues otherwise raised by the Jabirr Jabirr applicants in respect of their application area are the same as those raised by the Bindunbur applicants. The State's draft should be adopted in the case of the Jabirr Jabirr application area also.
134 While the State contends that the primary judge's construction of s 212 and s 225(c) of the NTA and s 14 of the TVA should be accepted, we have, with great respect to his Honour's reasoning, come to a different view.
135 First, it is notable that s 212(1) of the NTA is concerned to enable the confirmation of certain "existing" ownership or rights, and in subs (2), "existing" public access to and enjoyment of the places mentioned in subs (2). This language is not redolent of the creation of new rights of access but merely, as the provision says, of a capacity to confirm what is existing at a certain time. The ordinary meaning of "existing" for the purposes of s 212 must be existing at the time that s 212 was enacted. It follows, as s 212(2) of the NTA defines the boundaries within which a State law may be enacted to confirm access and enjoyment of the places referred to in s 212(2), that the meaning of "existing" in s 14 of the TVA must, at the least, mean existing when s 212(2) of the NTA was enacted.
136 Further, as s 14 of the TVA is relevantly in the same terms as s 212(2) of the NTA, there does not appear to be any indication of a contrary intention for the purposes of s 4(2) of the TVA such that s 14 might import an additional requirement that the relevant access and enjoyment also existed at the time that s 14 of the TVA was enacted. The word "existing" in s 14 of the TVA therefore bears the same meaning as in s 212 of the NTA: see s 4(2) of the TVA.
137 Secondly, the question then arises as to whether what is existing:
(1) must be a "right" recognised by the common law or general law; or
(2) can, at least in the case of "access to and enjoyment of" the places the subject of the determinations here, be existing as a matter of physical fact; or
(3) as the State submits, can be a mere ability or liberty to access and enjoy such places largely for leisure purposes which has arisen through custom or convention, or expectation, and has not been proscribed or abrogated by law.
138 So far as s 212(1)(a) is concerned, there can be no doubt that it is the existing "ownership" of natural resources that can be confirmed by, relevantly, a State law. The language of confirmation makes it clear that Parliament did not intend to leave open the field to the States to confer ownership of natural resources in reliance on s 212(1) where it did not previously exist. Similarly, s 212(1)(b) is concerned with leaving open the field to a State to "confirm" only the "right" of the Crown "in that capacity" to use, control, and regulate the flow of water. That right might exist under common law riparian rules, or under a statutory law applying at the time of the enactment of s 212. Subsection 212(1)(c) also plainly assumes that there were fishing access rights existing at the time of the enactment of s 212. In understanding why the Parliament may have included provision for confirmation of such existing rights, it must be borne in mind that s 212 was included in the NTA as originally enacted, and so before the full nature and extent of native title under the NTA came to be explicated by the High Court in such cases such as Yarmirr (concerning the existence and extent of native title in the sea and sea-bed), The Wik Peoples v State of Queensland and Others (1996) 187 CLR 1; [1996] HCA 40 and The State of Western Australia v Ward and Others (2002) 213 CLR 1; [2002] HCA 28 (concerning the extinguishment of native title). Furthermore, as Kirby J observed in Fejo and Another v Northern Territory of Australia and Another (1998) 195 CLR 96 at [76]; [1998] HCA 58 it should also be borne in mind that, "[a]s its terms and history suggest, the Act is a product of compromise and political negotiation".
139 Subsection (2) of s 212, however, is drafted in different and more unusual terms. It does not use the language of "rights" or "interests". It appears to have a different purpose. It is not expressly limited to empowering the confirmation of any existing "rights" of the public in the places mentioned in subs (2). If that had been the Parliament's intention then, as the State submits, it could easily have included existing public "rights" to access and enjoy those places as an additional paragraph of subs (1). But what exactly does the expression "any existing public access to and enjoyment of" the mentioned places mean?
140 In this respect, the meaning of s 212(2) of the NTA is ambiguous or obscure. Is s 212 a provision which merely seeks to ensure through "confirmation" that any existing general law "rights" of the public to access and enjoyment of such places as relevantly waterways, beds and banks or foreshores of waterways, coastal waters and beaches may continue to be enjoyed notwithstanding a determination that native title exists over such places? Or is s 212 only, or also, intended to confirm public access to and enjoyment of such places whenever such access or enjoyment is shown to have existed in fact at the relevant time? Or is s 212, as the State contends, intended to recognise an ability or liberty of a member of the public to access and enjoy unallocated Crown land by custom or convention or by reason of an expectation that they can do so in the absence of any prohibition on such access and enjoyment?
141 Thirdly, where the meaning of a statutory provision such as this is obscure or ambiguous regard may be had to extrinsic material pursuant to s 15AB of the Acts Interpretation Act 1901 (Cth). That section provides that:
15AB Use of extrinsic material in the interpretation of an Act
(1) Subject to subsection (3), in the interpretation of a provision of an Act, if any material not forming part of the Act is capable of assisting in the ascertainment of the meaning of the provision, consideration may be given to that material:
(a) to confirm that the meaning of the provision is the ordinary meaning conveyed by the text of the provision taking into account its context in the Act and the purpose or object underlying the Act; or
(b) to determine the meaning of the provision when:
(i) the provision is ambiguous or obscure; or
(ii) ….
(2) Without limiting the generality of subsection (1), the material that may be considered in accordance with that subsection in the interpretation of a provision of an Act includes:
(a) all matters not forming part of the Act that are set out in the document containing the text of the Act as printed by the Government Printer;
(b) any relevant report of a Royal Commission, Law Reform Commission, committee of inquiry or other similar body that was laid before either House of the Parliament before the time when the provision was enacted;
(c) any relevant report of a committee of the Parliament or of either House of the Parliament that was made to the Parliament or that House of the Parliament before the time when the provision was enacted;
(d) any treaty or other international agreement that is referred to in the Act;
(e) any explanatory memorandum relating to the Bill containing the provision, or any other relevant document, that was laid before, or furnished to the members of, either House of the Parliament by a Minister before the time when the provision was enacted;
(f) the speech made to a House of the Parliament by a Minister on the occasion of the moving by that Minister of a motion that the Bill containing the provision be read a second time in that House;
(g) any document (whether or not a document to which a preceding paragraph applies) that is declared by the Act to be a relevant document for the purposes of this section; and
(h) any relevant material in the Journals of the Senate, in the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Representatives or in any official record of debates in the Parliament or either House of the Parliament.
(3) In determining whether consideration should be given to any material in accordance with subsection (1), or in considering the weight to be given to any such material, regard shall be had, in addition to any other relevant matters, to:
(a) the desirability of persons being able to rely on the ordinary meaning conveyed by the text of the provision taking into account its context in the Act and the purpose or object underlying the Act; and
(b) the need to avoid prolonging legal or other proceedings without compensating advantage.
142 Little, however, can be gleaned from the second reading speech of the Prime Minister, the Hon Paul Keating, on the Native Title Bill 1993 (Cth), on 16 November 1993 as to the meaning or proper construction of subs (2). At 2881-2882 of Hansard (Commonwealth, Parliamentary Debates, House of Representatives, 16 November 1993), Mr Keating is recorded as stating:
The bill provides that laws and regulations applying generally in the community also apply to native title land provided they are consistent with this bill. This covers such matters as heritage protection, environmental and health controls and fishery regulation. Native title land is thus kept fully within the reach of Australian law. The bill allows existing access to beaches, waterways and other recreation areas to be confirmed.
143 It does appear, however, that the Prime Minister's focus was on "access" per se, and not on existing "rights" of access.
144 A month later, on 17 December 1993 when the Bill was debated in the Senate, Senator Gareth Evans, who had the carriage of the Bill on behalf of the Government in the Senate, responded to a question about beaches in the following terms (Commonwealth, Parliamentary Debates, Senate, 17 December 1993, 5063):
On the question of beaches, the bill specifically provides that, notwithstanding the possible existence of native title so far as a particular stretch of beach is concerned, the principle of public access shall override that.
(Emphasis added.)
145 Again, the "principle of public access" does not obviously engage a "rights" discourse, but is consistent with an understanding that there were, at the time of the Bill, "particular" beaches to which the public actually and physically enjoyed access - existing public access - which the Bill proposed should continue. That this is so is perhaps supported by what Senator Evans immediately went on to say (at 5063), namely:
It is not inconceivable that that might possibly be construed as being a discriminatory act against Aboriginal people in breach of the [Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth)].
If that is a problem, the parliament will just have to deal with that when it arises in an explicit way. But at least we will know that it is a problem and it will not be purely speculative in the way of so many of these phantasms and spectres that have been conjured up.
146 Fourthly, the further question on a broad construction, as opposed to a rights based construction, of s 212(2) is whether the fact of public access at the relevant time must be established by evidence, before public access and enjoyment to and of a beach and the other places mentioned in subs 212(2), may be listed amongst "other interests" in a determination made under s 225(c) of the NTA.
147 In this regard, the State on the appeal continues to press the submission made before the primary judge, and accepted by his Honour, to the effect that such evidence is unnecessary. The argument is conveniently set out at [639] of the primary judgment, as follows:
639 The State argued that the purpose of s 212(2) is to ensure that existing public access to areas of recreation such as beaches and waterways could continue even if that continued access impaired the unfettered exercise of native title rights and interests. The section was therefore concerned with the relationship between the exercise of native title rights and interests and the enjoyment by the public of places of recreation. It is concerned with the activities undertaken by people, not with rights held by them. That follows from the contrast between s 212(1) which expressly concerns rights, and s 212(2) which does not. Section 212(2) provides for the confirmation of the ability of the public to access areas, not a confirmation of a right to access an area. That ability is not established by the fact of use and, hence, it is not necessary for the State to stipulate in the proposed clause specific instances of use or specific places of use in order to comply with the requirement of s 225(c) of the NTA.
(Emphasis added.)
148 The critical part of the submission is the last sentence (as marked in bold). We are unable to accept this proposition. In argument, on the hearing of the appeal, counsel for the State firmly accepted that he could point to no common law or general law right or interest that conferred, on a member of the public, the right to access and enjoy unallocated Crown land, including beaches. Counsel, however, explained the basis of the interest asserted by the State in the following terms:
MR RANSON: - - - in relation to these places there has been a longstanding custom or convention or expectation that they are places to which the public can go, largely for reasons of leisure, and all the things that those carry with them. Again, I don't want to limit it to leisure but that's the normal understanding that we would say people would have. We would say - and again I will come to the extrinsic materials, but we would say what emerges from them is - essentially, what we are talking about here is if you asked a lay person in the street, well, if an area is just vacant Crown land, leaving aside Native Title, and there's a nice beach there do you think members of the public are able to go there? Do - you know, would you go there? So it's really a concern to preserve that aspect of Australian life if that's not expressing it too broadly. That's what we say emerges from the extrinsic materials and then finds reflection in the - in the broad words of section 212.
149 While the common law recognises public rights to fish and to navigate above the high water mark, as confirmed in Yarmirr, and some ancillary rights associated therewith, there appears no basis upon which it can be said that the law recognises, in the sense of enabling such an asserted "interest" to be vindicated, any right, entitlement or interest to roam across, let alone enjoy, unallocated Crown land whether above or below the common law or statutory high water mark. Nor have we been shown any basis upon which the Court could conclude that there is any custom, convention, or expectation, that the relevant places the subject of the challenged other interest determinations here, are so affected.
150 This position is to be contrasted with the right a member of the public may have to access an open space or a park which has been dedicated for public enjoyment, as recognised in Council of the Municipality of Randwick v Rutledge and Others (1959) 102 CLR 54; [1959] HCA 63 on which the appellants relied.
151 In a much-cited judgment, Windeyer J (with whom Dixon CJ and Kitto J agreed), at 70-80, essayed the statutory and other processes by which Crown lands, particularly in New South Wales, were allocated in the colonial period after 1788. The dicta of Windeyer J is, in our opinion, equally relevant to the contentions put by the State in relation to the position in Western Australia at material times. At 70, Windeyer J observed:
The term 'public reserve' - and the word 'reserve' alone, when not controlled by a definition or a context indicative of a different sense - have come to be used in common parlance in Australia as an imprecise way to describe an unoccupied area of land preserved as an open space or park for public enjoyment, to which the public ordinarily have access as a right.
152 Justice Windeyer went on to note, at 70, that the term "public reserve" has an accepted meaning as is apparent from its use without any statutory definition in some legislation where there is an exemption of public reserves from water rights. In other circumstances, however, "public reserve" can be given a special and restricted denotation.
153 At 74, Windeyer J further observed that at common law the only way in which land can properly be said to be dedicated to a public use is where it is dedicated as a highway. He added that while a private right to enjoy a park can be created by an easement appurtenant to an estate, the common law does not recognise a public "ius spatiandi vel manendi" apart from charitable trusts or statute. His Honour there added, however, that nevertheless any ancient right in the inhabitants of a locality in England to use the village green for recreation and games could exist on a basis of ancient custom - a circumstance, Windeyer J said, which may well have influenced the directions to Governors of New South Wales (to which he had earlier referred in his judgment) to provide reserves for the recreation and amusement of inhabitants of towns and villages.
154 His Honour observed, at 74, that it seems more probable that the term "dedicate" came to be used in New South Wales without any concern for its limited common law sense. He considered that it seems to have been thought to indicate something more formal than mere reservation from sale as in something binding the Crown and creating some right in members of the public or a section of the public. At 80, Windeyer J, however, noted that land constituting a public reserve as defined is not necessarily always available for use by the public for the purposes of its dedication, although the primary proposition is that it is usually available.
155 We note that the decision in Rutledge was not followed in certain respects in Mabo (No 2). However, as Madgwick J observed in Kanak v Minister for Land and Water Conservation (2000) 106 FCR 31; [2000] FCA 1105 at [25], this discussion regarding public reserves and public trusts was not qualified by Mabo (No 2), at least to the extent that it relates to the use of a trust reserve enjoyed by non-native title holders.
156 Nothing in the judgment of Windeyer J in Rutledge is consistent with the recognition by Australian law of a general public right to enter and enjoy unallocated Crown land. Nor is there support in his Honour's judgment for such an interest by ancient custom; let alone convention, custom or "expectation" under Australian law. As such, Windeyer J's judgment does not lend support to the appellants' contention.
157 Fifthly, the question is then whether it can be said that the Parliament, in enacting s 212, intended relevantly to leave open the field for a State law such as s 14 of the TVA to create, in effect, a right to roam on and enjoy the beaches and other places mentioned in s 212(2).
158 To attribute to the Parliament an intention, by s 212 and a confirmatory State or Territory law, to permit the conversion of an ill-defined custom or convention reflecting an "aspect of Australian life" that members of the public may access and enjoy any unallocated Crown land because there is no law preventing them from doing so, into an "interest" as defined by s 253 of the NTA for the purposes of identifying other interests in a native title determination, is to stretch the general language and statements made in the Parliament during the passage of the Bill too far. The creation of such a public access and enjoyment interest that is acknowledged to have the capacity to "impair" native title (even if not to extinguish it) requires explicit language to that end. In circumstances such as these, a "clear and plain intent" to create a broad new right to access and enjoy places such as those found in the determinations, where no such right has previously existed, and so will constrain the exercise of existing native title rights and interests, needs to be demonstrated: see Ward at [78] (the plurality); Mabo (No 2) at 64 (Brennan J with whom Mason CJ and McHugh J agreed), 114 (Deane and Gaudron JJ) and 193 (Toohey J). Such an intent is not demonstrated by the general and loose language of confirmation used in s 212(2). Furthermore, as Kirby J observed in Fejo at [76], the fact that the NTA is a product of compromise and political negotiation "should also restrain the judicial importation of implications which do not appear to be necessary to the text. The desirability of precision and certainty in entitlements affecting interests in land provides yet another reason for restraint."
159 That being so, we do not consider that a mere ability or liberty can be described as a "privilege" so as to fall within para (b) of the definition of "interest" in s 253, as the primary judge found.
160 First, it is plain that the requirement that there be a determination of "the nature and extent of any other interests in relation to the determination area" under s 225(c) must be understood in light of the definition of "interest" in s 253 and that the definition is "very wide": Ward at [387] (Gleeson CJ, Gaudron, Gummow and Hayne JJ). Thus the High Court accepted in Ward that the definition extended to the public right to fish. However, that does not mean that the concept of an interest as defined is unlimited.
161 Secondly, and more specifically, with respect to the construction of the word "privilege", it is important to emphasise that the duty of a court is to give the words of a statutory provision the meaning that the Parliament is taken to have intended them to bear: Project Blue Sky Inc and Others v Australian Broadcasting Authority (1998) 194 CLR 355 at [78]; [1998] HCA 28. Further, it is a well-established principle of statutory construction that "[t]he language which has actually been employed in the text of legislation is the surest guide to legislative intention": Alcan (NT) Alumina Pty Ltd v Commissioner of Territory Revenue (Northern Territory) (2009) 239 CLR 27; [2009] HCA 41 at [47] (Hayne, Heydon, Crennan and Kiefel JJ). This does not exclude a "consideration of the context, which includes the general purpose and policy of a provision, in particular the mischief it is seeking to remedy": Alcan at [47]; see also Commissioner of Taxation of the Commonwealth of Australia v Unit Trend Services Pty Ltd (2013) 250 CLR 523; [2013] HCA 16 at [47]; and Quikfund (Australia) Pty Ltd v Airmark Consolidators Pty Ltd (2014) 222 FCR 13; [2014] FCAFC 70 at [75]. Nor do these principles preclude the possibility that context may require the words of a provision to be read in a way that does not correspond with a literal or grammatical meaning. However, as we explain this is a case where the legislative intention corresponds with the ordinary literal meaning of the word "privilege".
162 Thirdly, as noted above, the word "privilege" is not defined by the NTA. Nor is it defined in the Acts Interpretation Act 1901 (Cth). However ordinary meanings of "privilege" are that it is something which is not, of its very nature, available to all. For example, the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary (5th ed, Oxford University Press, 2002) defines privilege relevantly as:
1. Invests with a privilege or privileges; grant a particular right or immunity to; allow as a privilege to do.
2. Give (a person) special freedom or immunity from some liability etc; exempt.
3. Authorize contrary to the usual rule or practice; justify, excuse.
163 This meaning also carries with it the notion that the particular interest qualifying as a "privilege" is invested, given or authorised.
164 The Macquarie Dictionary Online (Macmillan Publishers Australia, 2018) provides a similar meaning of "privilege" by stating that it involves a right or immunity enjoyed by a person beyond the common advantages of others.
165 In our view these concepts lie at the core of the ordinary meaning of "privilege".
166 Fourthly, while ultimately each statute must be construed in its own terms, this construction of the word accords with that adopted, for example, by the Privy Council in City of Winnipeg v Barrett [1892] AC 445. That case concerned the construction of the Constitution Act of Manitoba 1870 (Canada), s 22 of which authorised the provincial legislature exclusively to make laws in relation to education so as not to "prejudicially affect any right or privilege with respect to the denominational schools which any class of persons have, by law or practice in the province, at the Union". Lord Macnaghten, speaking for their Lordships, said, at 453, that their Lordships were convinced that it must have been the intention of the legislature to preserve "every legal right or privilege, and every benefit or advantage in the nature of a right or privilege, with respect to denominational schools, which any class of persons practically enjoyed at the time of the Union". The notion of "benefit or advantage", practically enjoyed, was the subject of the consideration of the Privy Council.
167 Fifthly, no statutory purpose has been identified for departing from the ordinary meaning of the word "privilege" in the context of the definition of "interest" in s 253 of the NTA. In this regard, it must also be borne in mind that the term "interest" is not merely defined for the purposes of s 225(c) of the NTA. The definition of "interest" in s 253 of the NTA has also been held to apply to s 61: Waldron v State of Queensland [1999] FCA 1195; Kanak at [22] and [35]. Specifically the table in s 61(1) of the NTA includes among those who may make a native title determination application, "a person who holds a non-native title interest in relation to the whole of the area in relation to which the determination is sought". This table exhaustively defines the classes of persons who may make a native title determination application: Kanak at [21] (agreeing with Black CJ and Lockhart J in Byron Environment Centre Incorporated v Arakwal People and Others (1997) 78 FCR 1 at 3-5 and 19 respectively; [1997] FCA 797). In Kanak, Madgwick J considered the construction of "interest" in s 253 in the context of determining whether an applicant claiming a right of public access to a "reserve" under the Crown Lands Act 1989 (NSW) possessed a "non-native title interest" such that he could seek a native title determination under s 61. In that context, his Honour held at [35]-[37] that an interest greater than that of any member of the public is required to meet the definition of "interest" contained within s 253 having regard among other things to the unmanageable consequences which would flow if any member of the public could be an applicant for a native title determination merely because all members of the public may, as such, have some right of access to use the land in question.
168 In the sixth place, when one takes account of the full text of para (b) of the statutory definition of "interest", which refers to "any other right (including a right under an option and a right of redemption), charge, power or privilege over or in connection with" the land or waters, the word "privilege" in our view encompasses an identified advantage that a person (including possibly as a member of the public) possesses at common law or statute. No such advantage is identified in this case.
169 In short, in our view there is no basis upon which an ability or liberty of the public to enter upon unallocated Crown land for which the State contends, or the "expectation" said to underpin the exercise of that liberty, could be characterised as a "privilege". The ability, liberty or expectation is not something which is invested, given or authorised in any relevant sense. Nor on the State's construction would it involve a right, advantage or immunity beyond the common advantages of others. To the contrary, it would be available to the general public at large. In those circumstances, we respectfully consider the primary judge erred in finding to the contrary.
170 However, we accept that in its terms, s 212 does seem to contemplate that where a party can demonstrate that public access to and enjoyment of the places referred to in s 212(2) existed as a matter of fact in a physical sense when s 212(2) was enacted and a State has enacted confirmatory legislation such as s 14 of the TVA, then that public access and enjoyment of the places in question is an "other interest" for the purposes of a determination in accordance with s 225(c) of the NTA.
171 In our view, therefore, there are but two ways in which s 212(2) applies in circumstances such as the present:
(1) First, a public access interest may arise where it is shown to be the subject of an existing common law or statutory right or interest (as defined by s 253 of the NTA) at the time that s 212(2) of the NTA was enacted.
(2) Second, the public access interest may be shown to be a relevant interest where a person asserting an "existing public access to and enjoyment of" land or waters of the type mentioned in s 212(2) establishes that public access and enjoyment, as a matter of fact, existed at the time of the enactment of s 212(2).
172 No doubt questions of fact and degree would be involved in the process of determining whether such access was existing and, if it was, the extent of the place accessed and enjoyed.
173 In the appeals before us, neither of these ways by which s 212(2) might apply was relied upon by the primary judge in making the impugned determinations. No demonstrated common law or statutory right of such access was identified. Nor did the State or any other respondent lead any evidence or otherwise attempt to prove at trial that public access to or the enjoyment of the places listed in the determinations actually and physically existed at material times.
174 For these reasons, we would conclude that the primary judge erred in construing s 212 as enabling an ability of or liberty in the public to access unallocated Crown land that answers the description of land and waters mentioned in subs (2), as an "interest" for the purposes of s 253 of the NTA and thus amongst the other interests in each determination.
175 It follows, for these reasons, that the appeals of the Bindunbur and Jabirr Jabirr succeed. Those parts of the two determinations that purport to determine other interests on the basis of s 14 of the TVA should be removed from the determinations.