Q316: … and do you know what he [the deceased] was mumbling.
A: No.
Q317: Okay so what happened after that
A: After that Junior kicked him a few times
Q: How many is a few
A: Two or three
Q: And where did Junior kick him
A: Like from the shoulder upwards
Q: So the first kick that Junior kicked him where did that connect?
A: I wasn't really watching.".
23. This passage then appears in Young's cross-examination (T160-161):
" Q: What I suggest to you is this, that when you gave the answer 'I wasn't really watching' when you were asked the question whether you saw Junior Mamae's first kick connect you, at that stage, were kicking Mr Hage. That's correct, isn't it?
A: Yes.
Q: And that's why you said in this interview to Mr Seymour that you weren't really watching, and you couldn't say then whether the first kick of Junior's connected with Mr Hage. That's what you were saying, wasn't it?
A: Yes.
Q: And that's true, isn't it?
A: Yes.
Q: And then Mr Seymour at 321 asked you this: 'What about the second kick?' And your answer was this: 'Like, I seen him kick him here, like the shoulder area towards the neck'. That's what you said, isn't it?
A: Yes.
Q: You said that you saw him, that is Junior, kick him to the shoulder area towards the neck. That's what you said, isn't it?
A: Yes.
Q: And that is true, isn't it?
A: No.
Q: No? Well if that answer is untrue why did you say that to Mr Seymour?
A: Don't know.
Q: Don't know. Let me suggest this to you, that your answer to Mr Seymour is the truth and you have changed your evidence now. What do you say?
A: No.
Q: Can you give me any explanation why you told Mr Seymour that you saw Junior Mamae kick Mr Hage to the shoulder area towards the neck when you didn't?
A: Because I was scared and I didn't want to get the blame for the whole lot.