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[2008] VCAT 2053
respondent. The Council's refusal was affirmed. No permit was granted for application TP-2008-146.
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VCAT upheld Melbourne City Council's refusal of a permit for a large, internally lit TAB sign attached above a projecting beam on a first-floor terrace. Although the applicant argued the sign was above a balcony rather than a verandah, the Tribunal considered its height and position similar to an above-verandah sign and inconsistent with the nearby pattern of under-verandah and fascia signage. It also found that the sign would not sit comfortably with the building's design, that moving it under the beam would not fix the problem, and that other signage could identify the business. The Tribunal did not treat the proposal as reinstatement of an earlier sign because no permit or endorsed plan for that earlier sign was shown.
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In Lester v Melbourne CC [2008] VCAT 2053, T Lester applied to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal for review of Melbourne City Council's refusal to grant a planning permit. The application was made under section 77 of the (Vic). The subject land was 193-199 Bourke Street, Melbourne, in the Capital City Zone, Schedule 2 Retail Core, and was also affected by Design and Development Overlay Schedules 1, 2 and 4.
The proposal was for a 900 mm by 900 mm internally illuminated business identification sign showing TAB in corporate colours. It was to be attached to a projecting beam associated with a recently built first-floor balcony or terrace. The premises included a TAB on part of the ground floor and the Carlton Hotel on other parts of the ground floor and building.
The dispute had a history. A permit had been granted in 1997 for use of the ground floor as a TAB agency. Photographs taken after that time showed an internally illuminated sign of similar size and position to the new proposal. But the Council had no record of a permit for that sign, and the applicant could not produce a permit or endorsed plan showing it. A separate permit for the first-floor balcony or terrace was granted in 2007. Its construction resulted in the earlier sign's removal. The Tribunal therefore rejected the suggestion that the 2008 proposal should be treated as reinstatement or replacement of an authorised sign (Background, paras 1-5).
The Council's refusal relied principally on design integration and streetscape character. It argued that the sign would look awkward above one of the terrace's structural beams and would not fit the prevailing signage pattern along that part of Bourke Street. The applicant argued that the proposal was not technically above a verandah, canopy or awning, but above a balcony. The applicant also submitted that the sign would identify the business without affecting important views or significant streetscape characteristics, and that nearby trees would partly screen it.
After inspecting the site and locality, Member Cindy Wilson affirmed the Council's refusal. The order stated: “The decision of the Responsible Authority is affirmed” and “In permit application number TP-2008-146 no permit is granted.”
The Tribunal's decision was a planning merits assessment under the Melbourne Planning Scheme provisions identified in the reasons. It was not based on a single label for the structure beneath the sign. Instead, the Tribunal assessed where the sign would sit in practice, how it related to the building and streetscape, and whether it was needed for business identification.
The Tribunal accepted the Council's description of the area's predominant signage pattern. It observed that signage was mainly under verandah or on fascia, and that it saw no above-verandah signs in the immediate vicinity, apart from some vertical wall-mounted signage, including one on the upper level of the subject building (Basis of Decision, para 8). It considered the proposal's height to introduce a new element inconsistent with that pattern. Although the applicant said the sign was above a balcony rather than a verandah, the Tribunal considered that it achieved a similar height and position to the type of sign discouraged by the policy (para 9).
The sign's position was also important. The terrace beams extended over the footpath beyond the terrace and adjoining verandahs, to within one metre of the kerb. The Tribunal regarded them as relatively prominent. A sign above one of them would protrude above verandah rooflines and forward of the verandahs and terrace, creating what the Tribunal described as a “discordant element in the streetscape” (para 10). This reasoning shows that the physical effect of the proposed sign mattered more than the applicant's technical distinction between a balcony and a verandah.
The Tribunal separately considered how the sign related to the building's architecture. It accepted that the projecting beams formed part of the terrace's architectural design. In its view, adding a sign above one beam would be at odds with the overall built form and inconsistent with the policy objective of integrating signs with building design (para 11). The conclusion was not simply that the sign was large or illuminated; the reasons link the concern to its particular location and relation to the structure.
The need for identification was recognised. The Tribunal noted that the Scheme allowed reasonable identification and marketing. However, the existing under-verandah sign and proposed fascia signage were, in its view, adequate for that purpose (para 12). This meant that the identification objective did not require approval of this additional sign in this position.
The applicant had indicated that a permit condition requiring the sign to be placed below the structural beams would be acceptable. The Tribunal considered that alternative but found it would not create an appropriate outcome. A lower position would not cure the sign's poor fit with the building or its intrusion beyond the prevailing verandah setback (para 13). The decision therefore addresses both the submitted design and the proposed modified position.
This decision does not state that it changed the law or amended the Melbourne Planning Scheme. The relevant provisions and policies identified in the reasons were already part of the Scheme. The Tribunal applied them to a specific permit application.
The Tribunal referred to Clauses 21.05-3, 21.08, 22.07, 37.04, 52.05 and 65. It described Clause 21.05-3 as containing public-realm objectives concerning respect for the building's architecture and surrounding streetscape, and avoidance of visual pollution. Clause 21.08 addressed the Central City precinct. Clause 22.07 set out local policy for advertising signs, including objectives concerning reasonable identification and marketing, protection of significant buildings and streetscapes, important vistas, and the contribution of signs to an area's character. Clause 52.05-3 provided decision guidelines, including compatibility with the area's existing or preferred character, sign position, scale and form, and the need for identification (Basis of Decision, paras 3-7).
The Tribunal's interpretation was that the signage policy applied to the proposal's actual height and position, even though the sign was above a balcony rather than a verandah, canopy or awning. It considered that the sign reached a similar height and position to the signs addressed by the policy (para 9). This is a fact-specific application of the Scheme, not a general ruling that every balcony-mounted sign is treated as an above-verandah sign.
The decision also illustrates that the need to identify a business is one relevant consideration, not an automatic reason to approve a particular design. Here, the Tribunal weighed that need against its findings on building integration and streetscape effects, and considered other signage adequate (para 12).
No later amendments to the Scheme or subsequent judicial treatment are contained in the supplied judgment. Accordingly, this source alone cannot establish the current wording of the Scheme or the decision's later treatment by other courts or tribunals.
The overall finding: The Tribunal said the sign was “inappropriate in terms of its integration with the building,” inconsistent with nearby signage and unsupported by policy (Introduction, para 3). In plain English, the Tribunal saw several connected problems, not just a technical issue with the sign's height.
The effect of the balcony argument: The applicant argued that the sign was not above a verandah, canopy or awning because it was above a balcony. The Tribunal acknowledged that argument but considered the sign's placement achieved a similar height and position to the signs addressed by the policy (Basis of Decision, para 9). In practical terms, the Tribunal assessed the physical result rather than treating the balcony label as decisive.
The streetscape impact: The Tribunal found a sign above one of the projecting beams would sit above verandah rooflines and forward of the verandahs and terrace, creating a “discordant element in the streetscape” (para 10). In plain English, the Tribunal considered the sign would stand out in a way that did not fit the existing street pattern.
The alternative position: The Tribunal considered placing the sign below the beam but still found it would not fit the building and would remain intrusive because it was beyond the prevailing verandah setback (para 13). The proposed adjustment reduced the sign's height but did not resolve the other design and streetscape concerns.
The identification need: The Tribunal recognised the Scheme's support for reasonable business identification, but found that the existing under-verandah sign and proposed fascia signage would provide adequate identification and marketing (para 12). In plain English, it considered that the business could be identified without this particular sign.
The earlier sign: The Tribunal found it inappropriate to treat the new proposal as reinstatement or replacement because the evidence did not establish that the earlier sign had a permit or was shown on an endorsed plan (Background, paras 3-5). The photographs showing a similar sign were not, by themselves, enough for the Tribunal to treat it as an authorised sign.
The judgment is most relevant, as an example of a fact-specific planning assessment, where a proposed advertising sign is above or near the height of verandah signage, projects forward from the host building, or differs from the prevailing pattern of signs in the surrounding street. The reasons particularly focus on an above-verandah sign in a street where the Tribunal observed predominantly under-verandah and fascia signage (Basis of Decision, paras 8-10).
It may also be useful when the sign is attached to a recently constructed architectural feature, such as a projecting beam or balcony structure, and the decision-maker must assess whether the sign integrates with that feature and the building as a whole. Here, the beams were part of the terrace's design, and the Tribunal considered that putting a sign above one of them would be at odds with the overall built form (para 11).
The case also addresses an applicant's argument that a sign falls outside a policy description because the supporting structure has a different name. The Tribunal considered the sign's height and position sufficiently similar to the placement addressed by the policy (para 9). The case does not establish that the same interpretation must apply in other locations or under different Scheme wording.
Finally, it addresses a claimed reinstatement where evidence of approval for the earlier sign is missing. The Tribunal relied on the absence of a permit or endorsed plan in the material before it (Background, paras 3-5). The outcome should therefore be understood in light of the evidence in this application, not as a general determination about the status of every historic sign.
The supplied judgment does not refer to any later cases, appeals or subsequent judicial treatment. It also does not cite other judgments as authorities. The precedent-relationship field is therefore empty: the judgment provides no basis for saying that a later court followed, distinguished, approved or otherwise treated Lester.
The decision is a VCAT Planning and Environment List determination by Member Cindy Wilson, resolving a permit application on the evidence and planning provisions before the Tribunal. The text supports describing its reasoning and outcome, but not making claims about its binding status, later influence, or present-day treatment. Those matters cannot be established from the judgment supplied.
The reasons do, however, provide a clear account of the factors that mattered in this particular decision: the local pattern of signage; the sign's relative height and forward projection; how it related to the terrace beams and building; the availability of other identification signage; and the shortcomings of the suggested below-beam position.
The judgment does not reproduce the full text of the relevant planning-scheme provisions. It summarises the objectives and decision guidelines relied on, but the precise wording applicable at the time would need to be checked against the Scheme version then in force. The source also does not establish whether those provisions have since changed.
The Tribunal noted an apparent issue with the precinct submission. Council's representative had submitted that the site was within the Bourke Hill precinct under Clause 22.07. After the hearing, the Member found that the site was not within that precinct and did not consider the precinct-specific provision (footnote 3). The decision does not provide further detail about the effect, if any, of that correction beyond excluding that provision from the assessment.
The reasons say that proposed fascia signage required no permit, based on information given by the applicant's representative, but do not describe its precise design, dimensions or location. The Tribunal treated it as part of the available identification signage without setting out further design assessment of it (para 12).
The source also does not explain whether any permit, endorsed plan or other documentary record for the earlier sign was sought or located beyond the evidence described. The stated basis for not treating the 2008 proposal as reinstatement was that no permit or endorsed plan was before the Tribunal (Background, paras 3-5).
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Application under Section 77 of the Planning and Environment Act 1987 against refusal to grant a permit. Melbourne Planning Scheme. Capital City zone Above verandah advertising sign.
Lester v Melbourne CC [2008] VCAT 2053
The proposal is to erect and display an internally illuminated above verandah business identification sign. The proposed sign is 900mm x 900mm and to be attached to a projecting first floor balcony beam.
The sign is to be internally illuminated and contain TAB in corporate colours.
Section 77 Planning and Environment Act 1987
Design and Development Overlay Schedules 1, 2 and 4
(as the proposed sign is not exempt under the provisions of the schedule or under Clause 52.05-3).
Clauses 11, 12 and 19.03 of the State Planning Policy framework.
Clauses 21.05-3, 21.08 and 22.07 of the Local Planning Policy Framework.
The review site is located on the south side of Bourke Street, between Russell and Swanston Streets. It is occupied by a five storey building with the TAB on the occupying part of the ground floor and a tavern, the Carlton Hotel, occupying the remainder of the ground floor and other parts of the building. A first floor balcony associated with the tavern use has recently been constructed and projects over the footpath.
Nearby land use is predominantly retail at ground level with various uses at upper levels.
The Tribunal inspected the site and locality before and after the hearing.
[3] Mr Logan's submission indicated that the review site is within the Bourke Hill precinct under Clause 22.07 of the Scheme. Upon examination of this clause after the hearing, I find the site is not within this precinct and I have not considered the provision relating to the precinct.
Lester
Melbourne CC [2008] VCAT 2053
The Council's refusal was affirmed. No permit was granted for application TP-2008-146.