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[2014] VCAT 1591
Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal
2014-12-22
Original judgment source is linked above.
LEGAL PRACTITIONER, do solemnly and sincerely declare that:
(b) had my first Practising Certificate on 16 February 2012, my Practitioner number is P0032552.
(c) includes public holidays and normal leave entitlements.
The supervised period will amount to 520 days (if calculated in days).[1]
(i) worked full-time (38 hours per week), Monday to Friday (9am to 5pm), from office. This amounted to 164 days.
(ii) worked Saturdays (9am to 5pm), from office. This amounted to 33 days.
(iii) worked (in addition to (i) and (ii) above) 58 extra hours (Monday to Saturday) and 18 hours on Sundays, from home (these additional hours were done before and after my normal 9am to 5pm working day, and on weekends).[3] I estimate that I worked an extra 76 hours each week via this arrangement. This would amount to 328 days.[4]
(b) I was under the supervision of Konfir Kabo, he:
(iii) currently holds an unrestricted Practising Certificate;
(iv) is a registered Migration Agent (MARN 0209289);
(vi) practices in the areas of commercial, criminal, family, immigration and properly law.
My work was supervised on a daily basis and took the form of face-to-face meetings, telephone and/or email correspondence. Even when I was working from home as stated in Paragraph 6(a)(iii) I was in regular contact with my supervisor via telephone and/or email when required. Annexed to this Statutory Declaration and marked 'Annexure A' is an original letter signed by Konfir Kabo verifying my employment at Kabo Lawyers.
(ii) providing technical advice and assistance to clients;
(iii) record keeping and maintenance, liaising with relevant person(s) or organisation(s);
(iv) doing legal research (in complex areas of law); and
(a) I have an extensive proven work record that started from the age of 14 years. From this age I helped run my family's two businesses (often working 16 hours per day, 7 days per week), and later on (after we sold our businesses) I worked as an apprentice mechanic at a leading Ford Dealership. During this time, I developed strong organisational, administrative, business and customer service skills.
(b) I have tertiary qualifications in accountancy, business administration, marketing, and information technology.
(c) I have volunteered at the Springvale Monash Legal Service in the past (2010) for 1 (or so) month. I assisted a Solicitor (Graham Wells) while I was there, my duties included;
(ii) providing technical advice and assistance to clients;
(iii) record keeping and maintenance, liaising with relevant person(s) or organisation(s);
I acknowledge that this declaration is true and correct and I make it in the belief that a person making a false declaration is liable to the penalties of perjury.
I am the Principal of Kabo Lawyers and an Australian Legal Practitioner under the Legal Profession Act 2004 (Vic).
Mr. Quan Pham worked at our Springvale and City office on a full-time basis as a Solicitor between the dates 24 November 2011 and 10 July 2012. He was under my supervision during this time. During his employment with us, contact between us was via face-to-face meetings, telephone conversations and/or email correspondence (whichever was appropriate at the time). I often checked his work, amended it (if necessary) and gave feedback when required.
At all times during the supervised period I held a Practising Certificate authorising me to engage in legal practice as a Principal of a law practice.
Please do not hesitate contacting me on 9663 3337 if you have any questions or require further information.
(a) The respondent was not employed as a solicitor for the entire period 24 November 2011 to 10 July 2012 (Issue 1).
(b) The respondent knew or ought to have known that he was not employed as a solicitor for the entire period 24 November 2011 to 10 July 2012 (Issue 2).
(c) The respondent did not work for 17.5 hours per day, seven days per week for the period 24 November 2011 to 10 July 2012 (Issue 3).
(d) The respondent knew that he did not work for 17.5 hours per day, seven days per week for the period 24 November 2011 to 10 July 2012 (Issue 4).
"The truth is that, when the law requires the proof of any fact, the tribunal must feel an actual persuasion of its occurrence or existence before it can be found. It cannot be found as a result of a mere mechanical comparison of probabilities independently of any belief in its reality." (@ 361.)
"The seriousness of the allegation made, the inherent unlikelihood of an occurrence of a given description, or the gravity of the consequences flowing from a particular finding are considerations which must affect the answer to the question whether the issue has been proved to the reasonable satisfaction of the tribunal." (@ 362.)
(a) On 24 November 2011, the respondent began an association with Kabo Lawyers.
(b) When he began at Kabo Lawyers, the respondent did not hold a practising certificate.
(c) On 16 February 2012, the respondent was issued with his first practising certificate. It authorised him to engage in legal practice as an employee solicitor, and included a condition that he perform two years' worth of supervised legal practice.
(d) On 10 July 2012, the respondent ceased his association with Kabo Lawyers.
(e) On 6 August 2012, Mr Kabo signed the letter, the text of which is set out above.
(f) On 7 August 2012, the respondent made a statutory declaration, the text of which is set out above.
(g) On 7 August 2012 the respondent submitted an application to the Legal Services Board to have the supervised legal practice condition removed form his practising certificate, relying on the statutory declaration as evidence of his two years' worth of supervised legal practice.
(h) On 1 October 2012, the Law Institute of Victoria formally refused the respondent's application to have the supervised legal practice condition removed from his practising certificate.
WAS THE RESPONDENT EMPLOYED AS A SOLICITOR FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD 24 NOVEMBER 2011 TO 24 FEBRUARY 2012?
My understanding (from talking to Shanice) was that I was to be a sub-contractor for three months (this period was to also serve as my probation period), then this may then lead to a permanent position (I become an employee).
During the first three months of employment namely November 2011 to February 2012 Mr Pham undertook administrative work at the law practice which did not involve any legal practice even though he was employed as a lawyer.
Due to the Springvale office being a new office Mr Pham was originally employed for a probationary period of three months to assist with the administration, marketing and general management of the office. In or around February 2012 he then commenced employment as a solicitor.
Mr. Quan Pham worked at our Springvale and City office on a full-time basis as a Solicitor between the dates 24 November 2011 and 10 July 2012.
DID THE RESPONDENT WORK 17.5 HOURS PER DAY, SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK FOR THE PERIOD 24 NOVEMBER 2011 TO 10 JULY 2012?
(a) The respondent is authorised to engage in legal practice as an employee only until the completion of a further 24 calendar month of supervised legal practice.
(b) The supervision of the respondent's work during the period of supervised legal practice is to be undertaken by a legal practitioner who:
(i) is a principal of the firm which employs the respondent; and
(ii) works on a full time basis in the same office location as the respondent.
[1] (5 days in a week x 52 weeks in a year) x 2 years = 520 days.
[2] When I first started my employment at Kabo Lawyers (24 November 2011) they told me that they would arrange the Practising Certificate for me immediately and that in the meantime it would be alright for me to engage in legal practice because I was under their supervision at all times. About 3 months past and I had not received my Practising Certificate so I asked and they told me that they may have forgotten (I guessed that things were a bit disorganised because at the time there was a new office manager). I figured that they were just busy so I lodged the application myself and was pleasantly surprised that my Practising Certificate arrived about 4 days later (I thought it would take much longer, like months). I don't think I should be penalised in this situation and ask that my supervised period start from 24 November 2011 because I was genuinely reliant on my employer as I was new to this whole application process.
[3] On average I worked around 17.5 hours per day (7 days per week) in total during my whole time at Kabo Lawyers (from office/home). I did exactly the same duties when I did additional work fro home (except seeing clients), and contacted my supervisor via telephone and/or email when I needed to, or for more complicated issues I saw my supervisor as soon as I returned to the office. The house stated here is not an exaggeration, my time at Kabo Lawyers was very demanding, I just had to get the work done (I knew this would reduce my supervised period dramatically, this was my motivation).
[4] (164 days employed x 76 additional hours worked per week)/38 hours per week = 328 days.
[5] 164 days + 33 days + 328 days + 10 days (unused leave) = 535 days.
Legal Services Commissioner
Pham
(1938) 60 CLR 336