CUERDEN MR: And I should have asked you this and said this, but your position is that in relation to the conversations that you recorded with your late wife, they were all with her consent? - - - Yes.
CUERDEN MR: And of those nine conversations on the Dictaphone and then on the disc, seven were faceto-face discussions you had with her? - - - Yes.
Correct? And two of those were telephone conversations between you and your late wife that you recorded? - - - Yes.
And your evidence is that on each of those nine occasions before the conversation you obtained her consent to the recording? - - - Yes.
But her giving the consent wasn't recorded on the recording? - - - That's right. Not - not - not a given consent as in words. The very first time I told her what I intended, she had agreed, and every time thereafter she had agreed by participating (indistinct)
Okay. So it was a standing consent, in effect? - - - If you want to (indistinct)
Before the first conversation, which is probably back in April - - -? - - - Yes.
- - - you said to your wife, 'Do you mind if I record this conversation', or words to that effect? - - - No, not at all like that.
How did it go? - - - We had been arguing; bickering, I suppose, is the best way - myself equally as guilty as Corryn, but some things small, some things major, and each of us said to the other, 'But that's not what I said; I said this', and - and so important things we just hadn't reached agreement both about what we said and what we said before and it was in one of these situations that I said to Corryn, 'I'm going to make a record of what we said', I recall.
And so you then went and bought a Dictaphone? - - That's right.
And you bought a - it was a digital Dictaphones, wasn't it, that you bought? - - - It was one - yes, without a cassette.
It didn't require the microcassette? - - - That's right. Yes.
So you went off to Dick Smith or one of those electronic retailers and bought a relatively inexpensive digital Dictaphone? - - - Yes.
Can you - do you have any recollection of the cost or the approximate cost? - - - I - I remember that it wasn't expensive. It was cheap. I can't tell you the cost.
And - - -? - - - But if I had to guess, maybe $50, something less than that.
And then after you had acquired that Dictaphone, you then told Corryn - I should say Mrs Rayney - that you had acquired a Dictaphone for the purpose of recording your conversations? - - - No.
So how did it go? - - - The first time I used the Dictaphone, I produced it, showed it to her and recorded. She had previously agreed and that's what I did.
Okay. And she could see it because it was out in the open? - - - Yes .
So that was a face-to-face conversation? - - - Yes.
And on each of the seven face-to-face conversations that were recorded that's what you did. You took the Dictaphone out and you placed it in open view? - - - (indistinct) was there and of those seven, some of them may have been recordings on the same day.
Yes? - - - (indistinct) actual period of time.
And the two telephone conversations that were recorded, obviously she couldn't see the Dictaphone as being present? - - - Yes.
Did you say to her - did you tell her that you were recording the conversation? - - -I can't remember the exact words I said, but I definitely made it known to her.
You definitely? - - - Made it known to her.
Okay. Separately on each of those occasions you made it known? - - - (indistinct)
By saying - because obviously she couldn't see anything in terms of what you were doing? - - -Yes.
You said to her words to the effect, 'Corryn, I'm recording this conversation'? - - - If not that, 'There will be a record of' words to that effect, which I took that she would understand.
Conveying to her that it was being recorded and she agreed with that? - - - She didn't disagree.
No? - - - She never said (indistinct)
She acquiesced in it after you told her? - - - (indistinct)
BENNETT, MR: The witness hadn't finished the answer.
CUERDEN, MR: Okay. Fair enough.
THE WITNESS: You asked me if she agreed. She didn't - she never said, 'I agree with you accordingly', but she had on the first time agreed and thereafter in person it was visible. She could see it. She knew what was happening, And the phone discussion, I thought that what I had said had made it apparent that that's what I was doing, but she never said, 'I agree with you accordingly'.
Okay. So in relation - - -? - - - So it was implicit when she did continue to talk, that she knew that that was happening.
In relation to the phone conversations, you made it known that you were either recording it or making a record of it? - - - Yes.
And she continued? - - - Yes.
She acquiesced in you recording, in effect? - - -That's right. (indistinct).
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