austlii:cth/FedCFamC1F/2025/562
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FedCFamC1F
2025-08-19
Hartnett J
Original judgment source is linked above.
FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 1)
(a) recover the child X, born in 2014; and
(b) deliver the said child to the mother.
(a) removing the children from the mother's care, their school, or any other location that the children may be in attendance unless otherwise agreed in writing with the mother as communicated through the parties' respective legal representatives;
(b) attending or approaching within 100 metres, or attempting to approach the children in a public or private place, including but not limited to the children's school, sporting events, extracurricular activities, parks or shopping centres;
(c) contacting, communicating with, or attempting to communicate with the children by any means, including directly or indirectly in person, phone, SMS/text message, email, social media and online platforms through the agency of third parties; and
(d) authorising or participating in the unilateral enrolment or withdrawal of any activity relating to the children without the express consent of the mother in writing or otherwise by way of order of the Court.
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court's records.
Note: This copy of the Court's Reasons for judgment may be subject to review to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 10.14(b) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 10.13 Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Family Law) Rules 2021 (Cth).
Part XIVB of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) makes it an offence, except in very limited circumstances, to publish an account of proceedings that identify persons, associated persons, or witnesses involved in family law proceedings.
IT IS NOTED that publication of this judgment by this Court under the pseudonym Lazer & Dorte has been approved pursuant to subsection 114Q(2) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth).
(1) her Application in a Proceeding filed 4 August 2025;
(2) her affidavits and annexures filed 4 August 2025 and 14 February 2025;
(3) the documents as contained in a tender bundle which in their totality were tendered in evidence;
(4) the updated Family Report of Court Child Expert, Ms F, dated 12 May 2023.
(1) his Response to an Application in a Proceeding filed 13 August 2025;
(2) his affidavit and annexures filed 13 August 2025.
BY CONSENT THE COURT ORDERS UNTIL FURTHER ORDER THAT:
That all previous parenting orders be discharged.
Parental Responsibility That the parents have equal shared parental responsibility for the children [X] born [in 2014] ('[X]') and [Y] born [in 2017] ('[Y]').
That in exercising parental responsibility, the parents shall make a genuine effort to reach a joint decision about all major long term issues, including but not limited to:
- the school the children will attend;
- The children's names;
- The children's religious and cultural upbringing;
- The children's health; and
- Any change to the children's living arrangements if such would impact upon one parent's ability to spend time with either of the children
In the event that the parents are unable to reach a joint decision about a major long term issue, then they shall attend family dispute resolution with a registered Practitioner before filing any family law application.
Living and spending time with arrangements
- That the child [X] shall live with her father.
- That the child [Y] shall live with his mother.
- That except as otherwise provided for by these orders, the child [X] shall spend time with her mother on the following basis:
- from after school Friday until 5 PM Sunday in each alternate week, commencing 28 October 2022;
- from after school Wednesday until the commencement of school the following Friday in each alternate week, commencing 2 November 2022;
- That except as otherwise provided for by these orders, the child [Y] shall spend time with his father on the following basis:
From the conclusion of daycare on Monday until the commencement of daycare the following Wednesday in each alternate week commencing 31 October 2022;
From after daycare Friday until 5pm Sunday commencing 4 November 2022, and in each alternate week thereafter
Changeovers
That changeovers shall occur at the children's school or daycare centre on all days which the children attend school or daycare.
Changeovers on days which are school holidays or public holidays shall occur at [G Family Services] NT, or if that is not available, then at McDonald's [City B].
That only the collecting parent is to attend school or day care at the changeover time, on days the children are to be exchanged at school or day care.
Special Days
That the children shall spend time with each of their parents on occasions of special significance ("special days") at times agreed between them, and in default of agreement as follows:
- On the children's birthday, the children shall spend the following time with the parent who is not otherwise due to have the children in their care:
- On a school day, from 3 PM to 7 PM; and
- On a non-school day from 2 PM to 7 PM.
- On Christmas Day:
- on even-numbered years the children shall spend from 5 PM Christmas Eve to 2 PM Christmas Day with the mother, and from 2 PM Christmas Day to 5 PM Boxing Day with the father.
- on odd years the children shall spend from 5 PM Christmas Eve to 2 PM Christmas Day with the father, and from 2 PM Christmas Day to 5 PM Boxing Day with the mother.
- On Mother's Day and Father's Day, from 8 AM to 5 PM with the relevant parent.
That should either party wish to take the children interstate, unless otherwise agreed they may do so during any period of time either or both children are in their care, and if the proposed travel is whilst the children are not in that parties care, the travelling party shall be permitted to travel with the children interstate for a maximum of 3 nights (except that the father may take [X] away for 7 nights and the mother may take [Y] away for 7 nights) as follows, provided the following is met, unless otherwise agreed between the parties in writing:
After giving the non-travelling party at least 28 days written notice; and
Providing the other party with travel itineraries, including details of flights; and
Making sure the children are available to speak to the other party in accordance with order 15; and
That the time referred to in these orders shall not include "special days"; and
Make up time shall be offered to the non-travelling parent within 14 days of either the child's departure or the child's return; and further
Such travel shall not take place on more than three occasions per calendar year.
Communication
The parents shall communicate with each other about matters involving the children via the communication App "Our Family Wizard (OFW)" and for that purpose, both parents shall ensure that they have a valid subscription and the App is downloaded and working. IT IS NOTED that the father will pay for both his and the mother's ongoing subscriptions, and further:
- should either party have any problems with their App they shall immediately notify the other party by email and liaise with the other party by email until the App is again in use;
- Retain and provide to the other party all correspondence with OFW relating to the breakdown and its rectification.
That the parties are at liberty to contact the children on each Tuesday and Thursday and on special days referred to in these orders between 5 PM and 6 PM, and for the purpose of the communication:
- the party who does not have the children shall telephone or face time (at the discretion of the calling parent) the mobile phone of the party who does have the children; and
- further should that telephone call not be answered, the other party shall return that call as soon as possible to facilitate the communication intended by this order.
- Should one party be unavailable to take the call, and they are obligated to return the call as provided for by these Orders, and further the party who is returning the call shall be obligated to provide evidence of their attempts to return the call within 24 hours of a written request by the other party.
- That both parties may record telephone calls and other communications made pursuant to these orders, but the parties shall make best efforts to ensure that the children are not aware that the calls are being recorded, and further both parties may use telephone calls and other communications as evidence in these proceedings.
That when the children are communicating with a parent pursuant to these orders, the other parent shall ensure that the children are not in front of a screen (TV, computer, Ipad or the like) and are not in possession of any electronic device.
That the parents may communicate with each other by phone if an emergency.
That the parents will communicate with each other at all times in a respectful manner and in a timely fashion.
That the children shall communicate with the other parent at any reasonable time requested by them, and the parent who they are living with at that time shall facilitate communication occurring and not refuse any reasonable request of the child to communicate with the other parent.
Injunctions
- That the parents are restrained and injunctions are granted, restraining each of them from:
Speaking negatively to the children or within the hearing of the children, about the other parent, the other parent's partner or any member of the other parent's family;
Physically disciplining or manhandling the children;
Exposing the children to any form of parental conflict;
Discussing time spending arrangements with the children;
Discussing adult matters concerning these proceedings with the children;
Actively or passively discouraging the children from spending time with the other parent;
Making plans to or offering inducements to the children to discourage time or communication, when the children are due to spend time with or communicate with the other parent; and
Allowing the children to be left unsupervised in the care of the paternal grandfather unless and until such time as Territory Families and/or NT Police advise that no claims are substantiated, noting a complaint has been made to the police ref [...], noting that should either party receive correspondence, whether written or verbal, that the complaint has been investigated, or if there is any notification about the investigation, that party informs the Independent Children's Lawyer by the next working day.
Education and Health
That each parent is at liberty to attend at the child's school or daycare centre for events and activities routinely attended by parents.
That neither party shall enrol the children in any extracurricular activity without engaging in genuine consultation with the other party prior to making such an enrolment, and the parties are to notify the other once a child has been enrolled.
That both parties ensure that the children attend any extra-curricular activities that they are enrolled in, unless the parties agree that the child is not to attend on a particular occasion.
That should either of the children miss a day's school or child care, the relevant parent shall notify the other as soon as practicable and advise of the reason.
That each parent shall immediately notify the other of any serious illness or injury or any other emergency involving the children when the children are in their care.
That both parties shall keep the other informed of their residential address, email address and mobile telephone numbers and advise any change as soon as practicable but within 24-hours and preferably prior to any change if possible.
That both parties shall advise the other of:
- Any pending medical or like appointment and provide the other party with details of the outcome of that appointment.; and
- Any medication prescribed by any medical professional that they provide the children.
That the Father be at liberty to arrange for [Y] to be assessed by a paediatrician and/or child psychologist at the fathers sole expense and the father shall keep the mother informed as to whether he will undertake such assessment, and provide copies of any reports or assessments obtained.
For the purpose of Order 28 herein, unless otherwise agreed between the parties in writing, the Father shall provide the mother with no less than 14 days' notice of any appointments arranged for [Y].
That each parent be entitled to obtain directly from any school attended by the children or from any health, welfare or other professional attended by the children, copies of any reports, notices or other relevant verbal or written advice affecting the education, health and welfare of the children.
That if the children are to attend counselling, with the exception of school counselling, any counsellor needs to be agreed between the parties in writing.
That each parent is at liberty to attend at the children's extra curricular activities.
That each parent shall notify the other promptly in the event that either of the children are unable to attend school or childcare due to illness, and each shall provide the other via the communication App, with a copy of the medical certificate provided by the child's treating Doctor (if any).
Further FDR
That the parents shall attend further FDR in December 2022 in an attempt to reach agreement about long term arrangements for the children, or if not school holiday arrangements.
Parenting Courses
That unless already completed, each parent shall make prompt arrangements to book into the next available "For the Kids" program.
That the mother shall complete the "Circles of Security" program she is enrolled in and shall provide a copy of her Certificate of completion to the other parties herein within 7 days from receipt of same.
That within 28 days, the mother shall enrol in family counselling at [H Family Services ] (noting that the father has already enrolled) and [H Family Services] are requested to provide a report on the counselling after 3 months, with any costs to be met by the father as long as those costs are minimal and are not charged on a commercial basis, and further the counsellor is authorised to receive a copy of the family report published on 19 August 2022, and the mother and/or father are at liberty to provide a copy of the report.
For the purpose of Order 39 herein, the Mother shall be permitted to take a support worker with her to any family counselling, provided [H Family Services] approve such request.
NOTATION:
A. That the parties need to resolve schooling for [Y] in 2023 and will enter discussions to resolve this matter.
Dear [Ms Dorte],
RE: Investigation and Safety Assessment Outcome
I am writing to you about the Investigation and Safety Assessment we completed [in November 2024]. We found that [Y] DOB: [2017] and [X] DOB: [2014] were harmed.
We have now recorded this outcome as 'substantiated'.
At this time [Ms Geisler] has been recorded as Person Believed Responsible (PBR) in relation to causing harm towards the children.
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[X] reported that she went to live with the grandmother in June 2024 because she had been 'arguing' with her mother and [Y]; that they had been 'yelling' at one another, and she had wanted some time to herself. [X] said she had enjoyed living with her grandmother and missed her.
According to [X], her mother and grandmother 'don't get along' and 'swear and yell at each other'.
[X] reported that her favourite activity is playing [sport], which she participates in six days per week. When speaking about her sporting activities, [X's] posture became more upright, and her face beamed. It was apparent that she felt proud of her achievements and gained much enjoyment from these activities.
[X] reported that the 'saddest' aspect of her life 'is not seeing nan'.
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[X] believed that her father wanted to see her, and in response to the writer querying whether she thought her father loved her, [X] said she believed that he did, yet would not agree to spending time with him.
If [X] were able to speak in Court, she said, 'I would tell the judge that I'm okay living with mum, but I miss nan and want to live with her. I don't want mum to talk to me about it, but I still wish it (to live with nan). Mum said she will read my (this) report but I still want it written in there'.
[X] resolutely refused to see her father or spend time with him in the children's room no matter how the writer presented the opportunity to her.
Dear Colleagues,
I advise that I saw [X] today. She informed me of the following:
She rang her father from school and asked him to come and collect her;
She rang her father because she is frightened of her mother;
She informed that her mother has been particularly angry with her and has threatened to harm her on 2 recent occasions;
Her mother has recently threatened to lock [Y] outside the house because he had got into trouble at school;
She does not feel safe at her mother's house and does not want to return there;
She has previously tried to speak with her mother's partner about her mother's behaviour towards her, and received the response that "your mum loves you, she's just angry";
[X] wishes to stay with her father but is worried about her brother.
[X's] presentation appeared to be genuine.
I note however that allegations have been made by [X] in the past about both her parents at various times, and it is not yet known whether any have any foundation. I also note that the separation of [X] and [Y] is likely not in their interests.
Given [X] however has reached out to her father, it seems she has no difficulty with spending time with him, and I'd hope that both parents can seek to reach at least an interim agreement whereby both children spend time with each parent. Relevant injunctions can minimise any risk and I'd also support the children engaging with a school counsellor or similar.
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During therapeutic engagement, the child presented with a range of emotional and behavioural responses indicative of distress related to current family circumstances. He engaged in symbolic play, creating a clay sculpture of his father and subsequently removing the head of the figure, verbalising that this would then "it means dad would stop hurting everyone". Symbolic play is a developmentally appropriate form of expression in middle childhood, allowing children to externalize and process complex emotions that may be difficult to verbalize. The demonstrated play act in this situation may reflect underlying emotional conflict, fear, or a perceived loss of safety and control in the relationship with his father.
In deciding whether to make a particular parenting order in relation to a child, a court must regard the best interests of the child as the paramount consideration.
How a court determines what is in a child's best interests
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(1) ...in determining what is in the child's best interests, the court must:
(a) consider the matters set out in subsection (2);
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(a), the court must consider the following matters:
(a) what arrangements would promote the safety (including safety from being subjected to, or exposed to, family violence, abuse, neglect, or other harm) of:
(i) the child; and
(ii) each person who has care of the child (whether or not a person has parental responsibility for the child);
(b) any views expressed by the child;
(c) the developmental, psychological, emotional and cultural needs of the child;
(d) the capacity of each person who has or is proposed to have parental responsibility for the child to provide for the child's developmental, psychological, emotional and cultural needs;
(e) the benefit to the child of being able to have a relationship with the child's parents, and other people who are significant to the child, where it is safe to do so;
(f) anything else that is relevant to the particular circumstances of the child.
(2A) In considering the matters set out in paragraph (2)(a), the court must include consideration of:
(a) any history of family violence, abuse or neglect involving the child or a person caring for the child (whether or not the person had parental responsibility for the child); and
(b) any family violence order that applies or has applied to the child or a member of the child's family.
...violent, threatening or other behaviour by a person that coerces or controls a member of the person's family (the family member), or causes the family member to be fearful.
(1) In considering what order to make, the court must, to the extent that it is possible to do so consistently with the child's best interests being the paramount consideration, ensure that the order:
(a) is consistent with any family violence order; and
(b) does not expose a person to an unacceptable risk of family violence.
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(b), the court may include in the order any safeguards that it considers necessary for the safety of those affected by the order.
Aside from sibling conflict with [Y], [X] said there had been "nothing really" which had caused her to feel scared, worried or sad in her mother's care, prompting her to live with the grandmother. She commented, "it's pretty good, it's okay at mum's".
[X], at the age of 11, has been caught in the middle of this parenting dispute during the formative years of her childhood. The writer has observed the differences in her views and wishes since 2022, when living in the different households. Initially in 2022, when in her father's care, [X] expressed a polarised position against her mother, alleging abuse by her and disparagement of her relationship with her father. At that time, she wanted to live with her father and was resistant to spending time with her mother. When interviewed in 2024, [X] had become polarised against her father,[Ms N] and the paternal grandparents, alleging abuse in their care and disparagement of her relationship with her mother. She refused contact with him/them and has remained polarised against them. Since 2022, [X] has consistently identified her maternal grandmother as a safe and reliable adult. In this assessment, she did not allege abuse in her mother's care, but it seemed apparent that she has a natural alignment to her maternal grandmother and expressed a preference to live with her.
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[X] is a child who appears to have been strongly influenced by the party in whose care she has lived, to the detriment or exclusion of her relationships with the others. In the writer's opinion, [X] would benefit by living in the sole care of one of the parties, whereby she is provided certainty about her arrangements and understands that if she absconds from that home, she will be returned, or if she spends time with one of the parties and they do not return her, she will be returned (if it is safe to do so). [X's] emotional safety and well-being has not been promoted by her experience of parenting behaviours whereby it appears at some time or another in each home she has not been genuinely encouraged to return to the other parent's care. The writer stresses that [X] was not responsible for this, but that culpability lies with each of the parties for adopting strong and polarised positions against the other.
I certify that the preceding forty-eight (48) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justice Hartnett.
[1] Blinko & Blinko [2015] FamCAFC 146 at [83] referring to Russell & Close [1993] FamCA 62.
[2] Isles & Nelissen [2022] FedCFamC1A 97; (2022) 65 Fam LR 288 at [50].
(2022) 65 Fam LR 288
That the parents shall reach agreement about who the children's treating GP shall be, and each shall ensure that the children attend that GP, unless in an emergency or unless the GP is unavailable.
That the parents shall share information and associated documentation between them via the Communication App in relation to medical and educational matters affecting the children.