"... they didn't remain with you the whole time, did they?---Mrs Starr did. Whenever that video was turned on, Mrs Starr was there - - -
When the video was turned on, yes?---Yes.
But if you were going on searching, she didn't go with you did she?---Yes, she was.
I would suggest to you she wasn't? ---Well, the way I operate, when a room is to be searched, while she was there she was present when all that house was there - - -
She was present. She was called into each of the rooms when you decided that it was time, an appropriate time for you to turn the video on?---She was called into the rooms to stand next to me so that I could speak to her whilst the video was on.
Yes, while the video was on?---Just because you can't see her doesn't mean she wasn't there.
No, I'm sorry, we seem to be at cross purposes here. I agree with you that she was there when the video was on, but she wasn't there when the video wasn't on?---Yes, she was.
She wasn't there while the search was being conducted?---Yes, she was.
She was called into the room in the same fashion that the video operator was called into the room to see what it was you wanted to be put or recorded on the video?---From my memory, Mrs Starr was present when the house was searched and each room was searched because that's the way (1) I operate, and (2) it was the way it happened.
I would suggest to you that it didn't happen that way this time?---Well, I - - -
She's certainly there when the video is turned on; no dispute about that, but she got called into the room just the same as the video operator got called from outside. 'Come here. We've found something. We want you to video this. Come into the room'?---No, that's not correct.
I suggest to you it is?---I'm sorry, it's not because I was there.
But for some reason or other you didn't have the whole thing recorded so that we could ascertain whether that happened or not?---We don't record the entire search of a premises."