[2025] FWC 1087
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-04-16
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.365 - Application to deal with contraventions involving dismissal
Farmanco Management Consultants Pty Ltd as trustee for the Farmanco Unit Trust
Application to deal with contraventions involving dismissal - jurisdictional objection -whether applicant was an employee-applicant found to be an employee - jurisdictional objection dismissed.
Please sign if you are happy with the terms and conditions outlined and return.[9]
While Keith is employed as the CEO of Farmanco he will receive drawings equivalent to his current wage package of $204,000. Any changes to this package will be through negotiation with the board and will need to be signed off by the Principals.
While Keith is employed as the CEO he cannot be a member of the Board.
All his vehicle expenses including the lease payments, and phone plan will be recorded against CEO class.
Any product or project expenses, including travel and accommodation where it is directly related to products or projects will be recorded in the corporate class against the relevant product or project. Any other costs will be recorded against the CEO class and will be audited by the Financial Manager and the Chair of the Farmanco Board.
The profit to be allocated to the Keith Symondson Trust Unitholder Loan Account will be based on the proportion determined by the units the trust holds divided by the total units held by all the Unit Holders in the Farmanco Unit Trust multiplied by the profit/loss from all Consultant Employees and Consultant Contractors, plus the profit/loss from the sale of products less all their direct costs, plus the income from corporate projects less their direct costs. This calculation of profit will remain in force until the Unit Holders agree to any changes.
The Unit Holder Loan Account will be maintained above the minimum limit as decided by the principal group. The current minimum is $80,000.
Keith as a principal will abide by the Principal code of conduct and the Unit Holders Deed.[26]
Subject to the express terms of this Deed and in relation to this Deed only, the Unit Holders acknowledge and agree to apply the general principles in clause 2.2 to their relationship for so long as they may be:
The general principles (in no particular order) are that:
(a) the parties will use their best endeavours to foster the development and profitable operation of the Business and ensure the Trust is managed to maximise the profits of the Trust and the return on Unit Holders' funds;
(b) clear accountability between the parties will be maintained to ensure the ongoing success of the relationship and the Business;
(c) the parties will do all acts or omissions in relation to the Business or their obligations under this Deed, whether required by this Deed or otherwise, in good faith in the best interests of the Trust and without delay or diversion;
(d) the parties will constantly work together to establish goals, values and objectives that will result in a relationship benefiting all parties and the Business;
(e) the relationship will promote good faith, co-operation, openness and collaboration, characterised by the sharing of information, joint planning and co- operative problem solving;
(f) the relationship will promote flexibility in all dealings between the parties, and between the parties and Third Parties as appropriate;
(g) the relationship will encourage a pro-active approach from the parties to ensure the development of the Business;
(h) the parties will be solutions oriented in their approach to all developments and issues in relation to the Business; and
Without limiting clauses 2.1 and 2.2, the Unit Holders acknowledge and agree that their objectives entering in to this Deed are to:
(a) use their respective business skills, know-how, experience and expertise to manage and conduct the Business;
(b) outline the decision-making procedures for the Trustee; and
Each Principal will work full time in the Business or otherwise as directed by the Trustee. No Principal will take extended leave (more than 8 weeks) from the Business without the majority consent of the other Principals, which shall not be unreasonably withheld.[34]
(a) Managed the day-to-day operations of Farmanco and its associated companies (Primary Financial Services (PFS), Farmanco Research and Aglytica);
(b) Oversaw the administrative function and, together with the finance manager, the finance team;
(c) Undertook HR functions, including recruitment, performance management and disciplinary actions;
(d) Mentored and supported the employee consultants together with the Principals;
(e) Developed the company's 5-year strategic plan and delivered agreed activities together with the Board;
(f) Reported all operational matters and strategic progress to the Board on a monthly basis and the Principals on a quarterly basis;
(g) Developed the marketing plan for Farmanco and Aglytica, and supported the development of marketing materials for the company and its products and services, including training of an admin team member to become the marketing manager;
(h) Supported PFS in compliance meetings;
(i) Developed and commercialised the intellectual property of the company;
(j) Supported the finance manager on the development of individuals' budgets and roll up to an annual financial budget;
(k) Developed new services, including bookkeeping, precision agronomy, projects, and new products, such as the digitalisation of Farmanco's paper based publications;
(l) Developed Farmanco's intern program to provide support to the management consultants during their review season;
(m) Developed business cases for new services and products;
(n) Worked with third party software companies on the digitisation of Farmanco's products, including identifying suppliers, scoping work and managing deliverables;
(o) Developed the internal processes and procedures of the company;
(p) Developed induction training and conduct training with all new employees;
(q) Supported the implementation of new systems and processes, including the move to cloud-based systems;
(r) Provided articles for Farmanco Facts and for use in marketing activities;
(s) Managed relationships with third parties to obtain externally funded projects; this included the formation of a joint venture with three of Farmanco's competitors to develop proposals for Australia wide projects;
(t) Worked with the Board and third parties, including accountants and specialised lawyers on the design of a new company structure;
(u) Managed external contractors, including IT, telecoms, external HR support, accountants and lawyers;
(v) Checked all external contracts for services and provided feedback to the Board on any potential risks;
(w) Developed risk mitigation plans for key areas of potential concern including data security and working with third parties of IT system pen testing;
(x) Managed sponsorships of third parties including grower groups and the Grower Group Alliance (GGA);
(y) Managed the IT function, initially by himself and then managing an external contractor; and
He was also called to attend extensive conversations with the Board members outside of meetings, especially with the Chair. He provided monthly written updates to the Principals alongside the regular quarterly update meetings. Mr Symondson said that the Principals also had direct access to both the Finance Manager and himself for any financial questions that they had through the course of the year. Mr Symondson said the monthly meetings with the Board and the quarterly meetings with the Principals were opportunities for the Board and Principals to direct and scrutinise every major financial and operational decision he made in the daily operations of Farmanco's business.[45]
Requirement to submit timesheets and hours of work
(a) Mr Symondson built the Projects team, the Precision Agronomy Business, the Bookkeeping team and the software development parts of the business.
(b) Mr Symondson ran the social media and company website with a staff member whom he later trained to become the marketing manager. Mr Symondson also built parts of the company websites.
(c) Mr Symondson formed a joint venture with three of the Farmanco's competitors to bid for a large five million dollar project with the Grains Research and Development Corporation over five years.
(d) Mr Symondson formed relationships with funding bodies and partners to get additional research and development project work.
(e) Mr Symondson wrote and reviewed numerous articles for the company newsletter to raise Farmanco's profile in areas such as agricultural technology. In each of these articles, Mr Symondson was referred to as the CEO of Farmanco.
365 Application for the FWC to deal with a dismissal dispute
(b) the person, or an industrial association that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of the person, alleges that the person was dismissed in contravention of this Part;
the person, or the industrial association, may apply to the FWC for the FWC to deal with the dispute.
(a) Focus on the verbal agreement between Mr Symondson and Farmanco's Board of Directors (to the extent that any oral contract is relevant to this case) that his employment with Farmanco would cease upon becoming a Principal;
(b) Construe the relationship as one that did not constitute an employment relationship at the time Mr Symondson was removed as Principal. The previous relationship of employee/employer that Mr Symondson commenced in, which ceased, should have no impact on the relationship that existed at the time he was removed.
The Unit Holders agree that: nothing in this Deed will constitute or be construed to constitute a Unit Holder as the Principal, agent, employee or representative of the other Unit Holder.
(a) The Employment Contract;
(b) The Buy-In Agreement; and
(c) The Deed.
(a) While Keith is employed as the CEO of Farmanco he will receive drawings equivalent to his current wage package of $204,000; and
(b) While Keith is employed as the CEO he cannot be a member of the Board.
Deed represent the rights and duties of the parties comprehensively and decisively point to a legal relationship of an employee and employer whereby the employee also retains unit holding interests in the employer entity. Consequently, the totality of the relationship between the parties does not need to be examined.
Were the terms of the relationship between Mr Symondson and Farmanco committed comprehensively to a written agreement?
Given that the genesis of the contract was the company's refusal to continue to employ the respondents as drivers, and the respondents' evident acceptance of that refusal, it is difficult to see how there could be any doubt that the respondents were thereafter no longer employees of the company.[81]
specific duties or KPIs and instead was required to undertake his duties as a Principal and was entitled to receive a share of the profit he created for the business. There is no evidence to support this submission.
[25] Whether the relationship between the parties is one of employment or not turns upon an examination of their legal rights and obligations. Those rights and obligations might either be set out in a written contract or, alternatively, must be ascertained from evidence of the terms that were agreed orally or which can be inferred from evidence as to the circumstances of the making of the contract and the course of dealing between the parties. Conduct that has no connection to the contractual obligations of the parties must be disregarded.
[26] Once the terms of the contract have been ascertained, it is necessary to characterise the relationship created by the contract. Two considerations will often be critical in the task of characterisation: the extent to which the putative employer has the right to control how, when and where the putative employee performs the work; and the extent to which the putative employee can be seen to be working in their own business as distinct from the putative employer's business. The way that the contractual terms address the mode of remuneration, the provision and maintenance of equipment, the obligation to work, the hours of work, the provision for holidays, the delegation of work, and where the right to exercise direction and control resides may also be relevant to whether the relationship is one of employer and employee.[88]
What were the terms of the contract between Mr Symondson and Farmanco?
What was the nature of the relationship created by the contract?
Consistent with the focus on legal rights and obligations required by Personnel Contracting and Jamsek, the analysis must involve consideration of whether there was a contractual right of control rather than merely the exercise of control in practice. In the absence of a comprehensive written contract, it is necessary to examine whether the existence of a right of control may be inferred from the conduct of the parties. If, in practice, the putative employer assumes the detailed direction and control of the worker in the daily performance of his or her work and the worker tacitly accepts a position of subordination to authority and to orders and instructions as to the manner in which they carry out their duties, that may provide a basis for inferring that the contractual agreement involved submission to direction by the employer.[90]
Whether Mr Symondson was working in his own business or Farmanco's business
Findings about the nature of the relationship created by the contract

Mr A. Al Asadi, legal representative from MKI Legal, for the Applicant
Mr H. Beaton, legal representative from Mills Oakley Lawyers, for the Respondent
[1] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [5], Digital Hearing Book (DHB) 97
[3] Witness Statement of Robert Sands dated 8 November 2024 [2], DHB 349
[5] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [7]-[8], DHB 97
[11] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [15], DHB 98
[13] Witness Statement of Robert Sands dated 8 November 2024 [11]-[12], DHB 350
[14] Witness Statement of Robert Sands dated 8 November 2024 [15]-[18], DHB 351
[21] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [22]-[24], DHB 99-100
[25] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [21], DHB 99
[27] Witness Statement of Robert Sands dated 8 November 2024 [25]-[27], DHB 352-353
[28] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [21], DHB 99
[29] Witness Statement of Robert Sands dated 8 November 2024 [29], DHB 353
[41] Witness Statement of Keith Symondson dated 29 November 2024 [37]-[38], DHB 101
[75] CFMMEU [2022] HCA 1, [43]; ZG Operations [2022] HCA 2, [8]
[76] CFMMEU [2022] HCA 1, [34]; Stevens v Brodribb Sawmilling Co Pty Ltd (1986) 160 CLR 16, 29; Hollis v Vabu Pty Ltd [2001] HCA 44; (2001) 207 CLR 21, 33 [24].
[77] CFMMEU [2022] HCA 1, [39].
[78] CFMMEU [2022] HCA 1, [42]; Hollis v Vabu Pty Ltd [2001] HCA 44; (2001) 207 CLR 21, 41-45 [47]-[57].
[79] Stevens v Brodribb Sawmilling Co Pty Ltd (1986) 160 CLR 16, 24.
[83] [2024] FWC 216; Upheld on appeal in [2024] FWCFB 254
[84] [2024] FWC 216, [68]
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Keith Symondson
Farmanco Management Consultants Pty Ltd as trustee for the Farmanco Unit Trust [2025] FWC 1087
(1986) 160 CLR 16
(2001) 207 CLR 21
(2024) 330 IR 171