[2025] FWC 3667
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-12-01
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - whether Applicant was dismissed - resignation given in the heat of the moment.
(a) the person's employment with his or her employer has been terminated on the employer's initiative; or
(b) the person has resigned from his or her employment, but was forced to do so because of conduct, or a course of conduct, engaged in by his or her employer.
(1) There may be a dismissal within the first limb of the definition in s.386(1)(a) where, although the employee has given an ostensible communication of a resignation, the resignation is not legally effective because it was expressed in the "heat of the moment" or when the employee was in a state of emotional stress or mental confusion such that the employee could not reasonably be understood to be conveying a real intention to resign. Although "jostling" by the employer may contribute to the resignation being legally ineffective, employer conduct is not a necessary element. In this situation if the employer simply treats the ostensible resignation as terminating the employment rather than clarifying or confirming with the employee after a reasonable time that the employee genuinely intended to resign, this may be characterised as a termination of the employment at the initiative of the employer.
(2) A resignation that is "forced" by conduct or a course of conduct on the part of the employer will be a dismissal within the second limb of the definition in s.386(1)(b). The test to be applied here is whether the employer engaged in the conduct with the intention of bringing the employment to an end or whether termination of the employment was the probable result of the employer's conduct such that the employee had no effective or real choice but to resign. Unlike the situation in (1), the requisite employer conduct is the essential element.
'In these proceedings it is unnecessary and undesirable to endeavour to formulate an exhaustive description of what is termination at the initiative of the employer but plainly an important feature is that the act of the employer results directly or consequentially in the termination of the employment and the employment relationship is not voluntarily left by the employee. That is, had the employer not taken the action it did, the employee would have remained in the employment relationship.'
I am sad and sorry we ended our employer/employee relationship the way we did. You have always been my best employee, and I respected you for your work ethic and helping me in circumstances out of your work scope and I will always remember you for that. God Bless you in your new endeavours. The reason I cut your hours this winter (only) was because business was considerably down this year, so I had to cut, wages and superannuation are my biggest expense and have been increasing every year. I understand this does not help you. You have expenses and it is right that you look for another job. Once again thank you for your help over the years I have enjoyed you as a employee.
Thanks for your email, firstly I too am saddened by what happened yesterday, it was not my intention to react the way I did but feel you put me in a position that was not in the best interest for either of us. It was a discussion that should have taken place in private and between just the two of us not a discussion as your walking out the door and in front of another staff member.
What I heard you say is that you were cutting my hours down to two half days not 2 ½ days hence why I was taken aback, once again if the discussion had taken place in a more acceptable place maybe the confusion would not have happened.
I would like to continue my employment and am happy to discuss the reduced hours etc in a more contusive (sic) environment, could you please advise going forward.
Thank you for your email. I think we are both upset that our working relationship ended the way it did. However, it has enabled me to reevaluate my situation, with the current cost of living crisis and my practice winding down. The business cash flow has reduced (more than normal) and as you are aware that I am entering my last year of my working life. I have decided to reduce the overall hours that the reception desk is manned and may even reduce the practice hours, everything is on the table now. I therefore feel that it is in the best interests of both of us to stay with the decision you made on Wednesday. Once again thank you for your service.
Thank you for your email on Friday 18th July 2025, I would like some clarification with regards to my employment, as advised in my previous email there was confusion in the conversation regarding the hours that you wanted to cut and in that discussion I said a few things that I didn't mean to converse and clarified this in my email on Thursday 17th July advising I would like to continue my employment and did not wish to resign.
Your email on Friday in my understanding was that due to company restructure my position has been made redundant and therefore I am no longer required and if this is the case could you please confirm my notice of termination formally and if you would like me to return to my duties until termination date.
With regards to altering my work hours the following should have taken place as per our employment under the Health Services Award (MA000027):
[Clause 35 Consultation about changes to rosters or hours of work was set out in the email]
I have been advised that as I do not have a formal employment agreement that my employment reverts back to and follows the Health Services Award by which I am engaged under.
Based on the information provided, could you please clarify your position in regard to my employment by return email by end of business hours today.
On Wednesday 16th July 2025, I raised with you returning to your original hours of 2 and 1/2 days / week during the winter period when historically business is slower and this has been agreed in the past to decrease your hours during winter. At that time, it was very clear that I was talking about returning to 2 and 1/2 days per week NOT 2x 0.5 days per week which you have since claimed and makes no sense. You immediately resigned, without notice, which I accepted, and you further clarified this by clearing out your desk before leaving that afternoon.
In my email dated Friday 18th July 2025, I did NOT state that your position had been made redundant, rather I took the opportunity of your resignation, to look at the reception hours required and the workload of other employees, to keep my business financial. Regarding the Health Services Award quoted :
I proposed changing your hours to 2 1/2 days / week which was the original agreement at the beginning of your employment.
You gave me your view regarding the proposed changes which was to resign your position immediately.
I considered your view and accepted your resignation on the spot.
You did not offer any notice of termination which I also accepted at the time.
As an employer, I have the right not to accept a withdrawal of resignation if I think it is in the best interests of the business.
And I did not think that your position was tenable after your reaction last Wednesday.
You have not been happy working for me for some time.
I will discuss with the accountant any holiday pay owing to you and send it to you as soon as possible.
Once again, I wish you all the best for your future endeavour
With reference to your email received today, I must respectfully disagree with your interpretation of some parts of the conversation.
As per my previous emails I would like to convey that I have not resigned and that the conversation that took place to me advising you I will quit if my hours were reduced to 2 half days (not 2 and a half days) which was my interpretation of what you said took place in an extremely stressful environment and in the heat of the moment, I also advised that if I was going to quit I would put it in writing that afternoon and give you notice, after 8 years of loyal service I would have thought you would have given me the opportunity to have a reasonable period of time to 'cool off' and reflect on the conversation that had taken place as per my email on Thursday.
I attended work today as I still considered to be employed as I had not handed in a written resignation and had sent an email on Monday and text today (Tuesday) and received nothing in return, when I arrived I was asked by yourself to leave and to hand my key back and not to return and that I was no longer employed.
A person has been unfairly dismissed if the FWC is satisfied that:
(b) the dismissal was harsh, unjust or unreasonable; and
(c) the dismissal was not consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code; and
(d) the dismissal was not a case of genuine redundancy.
Note: For the definition of consistent with the Small Business Fair Dismissal Code: see section 388."
Was the dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable?
'... It may be that the termination is harsh but not unjust or unreasonable, unjust but not harsh or unreasonable, or unreasonable but not harsh or unjust. In many cases the concepts will overlap. Thus, the one termination of employment may be unjust because the employee was not guilty of the misconduct on which the employer acted, may be unreasonable because it was decided upon inferences which could not reasonably have been drawn from the material before the employer, and may be harsh in its consequences for the personal and economic situation of the employee or because it is disproportionate to the gravity of the misconduct in respect of which the employer acted.'
[5] Sathananthan v BT Financial Group Pty Ltd [2019] FWC 5583.
[6] (1995) 185 CLR 410 at 465 per McHugh and Gummow JJ.
[7] Sayer v Melsteel Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 7498, [14]; Smith v Moore Paragon Australia Ltd PR915674 (AIRCFB, Ross VP, Lacy SDP, Simmonds C, 21 March 2002), [69].
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M & R Clayton Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 3667
(1995) 185 CLR 410