[2025] FWC 548
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Fair Work Commission
2025-02-21
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(collectively, other Jurisdictional Objections).
Iterations of the Application, Interlocutory Matters and Hearing
Lisa Miscamble, General Manager, Wingecarribee Shire Council + Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Manager Community Life and Libraries, Wingecarribee Shire Council + Wingecarribee Shire Council ("collective group" and "multiple decision makers").
Viv May, Administrator, Wingecarribee Shire Council + 2. Lisa Miscamble, General Manager, Wingecarribee Shire Council + 3. Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Manager Community, Life and Libraries, Wingecarribee Shire Council + Wingecarribee Shire Council (entity)
The Earlier Proceedings - General Protections and Unlawful Termination Applications
(b) On 9 May 2024, the Commission notified Wingecarribee that Ms Tan had filed a General Protections claim against Wingecarribee. The Commission did not serve the First GP Application at that time.
(c) On 10 May 2024, solicitors for Wingecarribee filed a Form F53 seeking permission for Wingecarribee to be represented in future hearings or conferences concerning the First GP Application, including in determining 'whether a valid application had been made within jurisdiction, and any subsequent conferences or interlocutory process'. Wingecarribee did not file any other forms, replies or material in relation to the First GP Application.
(f) Ms Tan filed a discontinuance of the First GP Application on or around 16 May 2024.
(g) On or around 16 May 2024 Ms Tan filed an application under s.773 of the Act (Unlawful Termination Application) alleging that her employment had been terminated in contravention of s.772(1) of the Act. The Unlawful Termination Application named only Ms Miscamble and Ms Baget-Juleff as Respondents.
(h) Various jurisdictional objections were made to the Unlawful Termination Application including that it had been filed out of time.
(i) Ms Tan and the Respondents filed evidence and submissions in accordance with a timetable set by Deputy President Roberts.
(k) On 2 July 2024, Deputy President Roberts handed down a decision dismissing the Unlawful Termination Application on the grounds that he was not satisfied that there were exceptional circumstances to warrant an extension of time.
(2) The FWC may allow a further period if the FWC is satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances, taking into account:
(b) any action taken by the employee to dispute the dismissal; and
(c) prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay); and
(e) fairness as between the person and other persons in a like position.
(a) A fresh application concerning the same set of facts under different statutory provisions of the Act is still subject to the relevant time limit i.e. the first application being in time does not mean that the second application is necessarily made in time - but the Commission has discretion to accept the second application;
(b) The current application was part of a continuum from termination, through the First GP Application and the Unlawful Termination Application and should be considered to be one ongoing application not three separate ones;
(c) On 10 July 2024, after Deputy President Roberts handed down his decision on 2 July 2024, Ms Tan had immediately re-lodged the Application to avoid further delay;
(e) That the delay was partly attributable to the Respondents and their legal representatives raising 'dishonest' jurisdictional objections in both the First GP Application and the Unlawful Termination Application which led to the discontinuance of the First GP Application; and
(f) Delays arising from having to navigate a complex legal system and the uneven playing field caused by legal expertise being 'afforded to some but not others'.
(a) The application for an extension of time has already been heard and determined by Deputy President Roberts in reliance upon various documents and submissions;
(b) The reagitating of these issues is an abuse of process;
(c) No new exceptional circumstances have been identified that would warrant the grant of an extension;
(d) Ms Tan misunderstands the Commission's role as Ms Tan's application had to be made within 21 days and can only be accepted after this time if the Commission is satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances sufficient to allow Ms Tan a greater period of time to file;
(e) Filing the wrong application due to a lack of awareness or ignorance is not exceptional;
(f) Ms Tan made a forensic decision to withdraw the First GP Application and unsuccessfully brought the Unlawful Termination application;
(g) Ms Tan is in no different a situation than any other applicant in navigating Commission processes and was an experienced litigant in the Commission;
(h) That the duration of the delay is relevant to the Commission's consideration, contrary to Ms Tan's submission; and
(i) That Ms Tan has not explained the delay affecting the filing of the Application, nor the delay between filing versions of the Application.
The applicant regarded, and appears to continue to regard, the two causes of action as interchangeable when they clearly are not. It may be accepted that difficulties can arise for an unrepresented person navigating some of the requirements of the Act, including in some circumstances, determining the appropriate cause of action. In Hedger v. Trustee for Perrott Trust t/a Perrott Engineering Pty Ltd, the Full Bench said that a genuine and reasonable belief by an applicant that the application has been made is relevant to explaining any period of delay between the attempt and the lodgement of material that is sufficient to constitute an application being made. In making that assessment I think it is necessary to take into account that the two proceedings were of a different kind and were commenced against different respondents. This weighs against a conclusion that it was reasonable to believe that the ultimate application had been made. On the other hand, I acknowledge that the coverage provisions of the Act can present challenges for local government employees. I also take into account the fact that the applicant was aware that there were time limitations in place. She said she was in contact with the Commission about those limits, but she was apparently content to continue with her first application until she came to a view that it should be discontinued. By that time, the second application was well out of time.[41]
Prejudice to the employer (including prejudice caused by the delay)
(a) Must have knowledge of the essential facts constituting the contravention;
(b) Must be knowingly concerned in the contravention;
(c) Must be an intentional participant in the contravention based on actual, not constructive, knowledge of the essential facts constituting the contravention - although constructive knowledge may be sufficient in cases of wilful blindness; and,
(d) Need not know that the matters in question constituted a contravention.
Fairness as between the person and other persons in a like position
Is the Commission satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances, taking into account the matters above?
D. Gardner of Bartier Perry on behalf of the Respondents.
[1] Collectively, Wingecarribee and the individually named Respondents are referred to as 'the Respondents'.
[2] Ms Tan's original application filed on 10 July 2024 ticked the corresponding boxes for s.340 - Protection, s.346 - Industrial activities protection, and s.351 - Discrimination, and contained excerpts from ss.343 and 345 of the Act. However, Ms Tan's amended application filed on 23 July 2024, which she proceeded on at hearing, did not have the box for discrimination or industrial activities ticked. It did however contain references to ss.351, 342 and 343 of the Act. The box for coercion was not ticked in either iteration of the application.
[4] Witness statement of Ms Danielle Lidgard dated 20 August 2024 [47] - [50], Annexure DL-5.
[5] Witness statement of Ms Danielle Lidgard dated 20 August 2024 [50].
[6] Ms Karen Tan v Lisa Miscamble, General Manager, Wingecarribee Shire Council & Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Manager, Community, Life And Libraries and Another [2024] FWC 1737, [9].
[7] On 16 May 2024, the Commission notified Ms Tan that the Regional Coordinator had determined not to allow the amendments to Ms Tan's application as sought in the Form F1.
[8] The application before me in these proceedings included more detail concerning the alleged instances of adverse action taken by the respondent/s (both during and terminating Ms Tan's employment), as well as references to alleged false and unsubstantiated claims made by other members of staff concerning Ms Tan.
[9] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN486 - PN488.
[10] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN482 - PN504.
[11] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN1127.
[12] Ben Buksh v Ramsay Health Care T/A Peninsula Private Hospital [2020] FWCFB 4352 [19].
[13] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN476 - PN504.
[14] AB v Tabcorp Holdings Ltd [2015] FWCFB 523 [11].
[15] Chandra Gupta Narayan v MW Engineers Pty Ltd [2013] FWCFB 2530,[20] - [24].
[17] Section 366(1) of the Act states that a General Protections application involving a dismissal must be made 'within 21 days after the dismissal took effect', or within such further period as the Commission allows pursuant to s.366(2).
[18] Mrs Lisha Herc v Hays Specialist Recruitment (Australia) Pty Limited [2022] FWCFB 234, [15] - [27].
[19] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [13].
[21] Shaw v Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd [2015] FWCFB 287, [12].
[22] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, [39].
[24] Witness statement of Karen Tan, dated 17 September 2024; Witness statement of Scott Alle, dated 6 June 2024; Statement on behalf of Grame Day, dated 16 September 2024.
[25] Witness Statement of Danielle Lidgard dated 20 August 2024, DL-8, [1].
[26] Karen Tan v Lisa Miscamble, Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Manager, Community and Wingecarribee Shire Council [2024] FWC 1737, [17].
[27] Applicant's outline of submissions on jurisdiction dated 17 September 2024, p.225 - 226 of the Court Book, Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN486 - PN494.
[28] Form F8 - Amended - dated 23 July 2024 at 1.4, p.755 - 756 of the Court Book, Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN285 - PN288, PN494 - PN497.
[29] Transcript - 3 October 2024 at PN447.
[30] Transcript - 3 October 2024 at PN460, PN470, PN485, PN673.
[31] Transcript - 3 October 2024 at PN921.
[38] Witness Statement of Danielle Lidgard dated 20 August 2024, DL-8, [1].
[39] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN471 - PN504.
[40]Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN1127.
[41] Ms Karen Tan v Lisa Miscamble, General Manager, Wingecarribee Shire Council & Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Manager, Community, Life And Libraries and Another [2024] FWC 1737, [24].
[43] Pacheco-Hernandez v Duty Free Stores Gold Coast Pty Ltd (No. 2) [2019] FCCA 1295.
[45] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN631 - PN635.
[46] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN625 - PN635, PN657 - PN662.
[47] Ho v Professional Services Review Committee No 295 [2007] FCA 388 [25]; citing R v Kelly [1999] UKHL 4; [2000] QB 198, 208; cited in Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975 [13].
[48] Mamo v ICLED Australia Pty Limited T/A SignsNational Group [2021] FWC 3903, [11].
[49] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, [39].
[50] Brodie-Hanns v MTV Publishing Ltd (1995) 67 IR 298.
[51] Transcript - 3 October 2024, PN482 - PN504_,_ PN1127.
[53] Kyvelos v Champion Socks Pty Ltd (2000) Print T2421[14].
[54] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [36]
[55] Long v Keolis Downer T/A Yarra Trams [2018] FWCFB 4109 [72].
[56] Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) s.368(1) and (2).
[57] Respondents' Submissions on Jurisdiction - dated 27 August 2024 [11.3.2].
[58] Danielle Mazza v Council of the City of Ryde [2024] FWC 580; Veronika Bonora v Council of The City of Ryde [2024] FWC 384.
[61] See Alam v National Australia Bank Limited [2021] FCAFC 178 [97] (read with [81] and [95]); [75]; El-Hajje v Rissalah College Limited [2022] FedCFamC2G 260, [23].
[62] Yorke v Lucas (1985) 158 CLR 661 at 666 - 667, Fair Work Ombudsman v Quincolli Pty Ltd (2011) 63 AILR 101 - 498, Fair Work Ombusman v Devine Marine Group Pty Ltd [2014] FCA 1365 at [176].
[63] Nulty v Blue Star Group Pty Ltd [2011] FWAFB 975, [13].
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Viv May, Lisa Miscamble, Kathryn Baget-Juleff, Wingecarribee Shire Council [2025] FWC 548
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