[2025] NSWCATOD 28
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NCAT Occupational
2025-03-18
Member Decision, Member Molony, Member Montgomery
Original judgment source is linked above.
(1) that he had been convicted of 3 offences in the last 10 years, being 1 count of grievous bodily harm, 1 count of common assault, and 1 count of breach of an Apprehended Domestic Violence Order (ADVO); and
(2) that he was subject to two good behaviour bonds, due to expire on 10 January 2025 and 10 July 2025 respectively.
"I have admitted since Day 1 that I have a criminal record and the crimes I committed don't go against the criteria that is set out in the Property and Stock Agents Act. If I'm good enough to complete the course and I haven't broken any real estate laws then I believe I should have my licence."
14 Eligibility for a licence or certificate of registration
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(3) A person is eligible to hold a certificate of registration only if the Secretary is satisfied that the person -
(a) is an individual who is at least 16 years of age, and
(b) is a fit and proper person to hold a certificate of registration, and
(c) has the qualifications required for the issue of a certificate of registration of the type concerned, and
(d) is not a disqualified person.
(1) (Incident 1): Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (DV)-T2 under s 59(1) of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) (Crimes Act).
(2) (Incident 2): Common Assault (DV) - T2 under s 61 of the Crimes Act; and
(3) (Incident 3): Contravene prohibition / Apprehended Domestic Violence Order (ADVO) under s 61 of the Crimes Act.
and that he received Community Correction Orders - for 2 years in respect of the conviction for Incident 1 (expiring 10 July 2025), and for 18 months in respect of the convictions for Incidents 2 and 3 (which expired 10 January 2025).
(1) Prior record: He said he previously had a clean record for 43 years, without even a speeding ticket.
(2) Employment history: He said his prior jobs had included working for 20 years as a security officer (until 2016). He is currently employed working for an air conditioning factory which supplies parts to air conditioning units. In cross-examination, he was taken to the Facts Sheet which suggested he had told the police that his employment was as a "rabbi". He said that he had never said he was a rabbi, but confirmed he had not sought to amend the Facts Sheet.
(3) "One mistake": He said "[My partner] and I are still together - this was a one off incident".
(4) His religion: he is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He said that he helps people. He mentioned the church that he attended, but did not say how regularly.
(5) Counselling and therapy: He said he had contacted the church straight after the first incident, who had put him in touch with a therapist. He said he did sessions "around about 12 times", and that he did them by a video call. There was no record before the Tribunal of those attendances, or when they started and ended. The Applicant said that he didn't need to see him anymore. He said he attended a doctor because he "knew I needed help". He also said that he attended therapy with his partner (a lady in Gosford who did energy healing).
(6) Remorse: He said that he had spoken to his partner as part of the counselling, admitted he did wrong, and had asked for their forgiveness. He said that it was "minor" in his partner's experience, who accepted his apology because that was why they were still together.
(1) The Facts Sheets, although recording what they had said to police, overstated the events that occurred (and corrections had been sought by writing to the judge before the Applicant's court hearing).
(2) Following that theme, in respect of Incident 1, no real harm had been done, the Applicant had acted "out of character", he was "not violent before", and that it was "more of a mental breakdown". In respect of Incident 2, they took the blame for not being in a good frame of mind, having not slept for three nights, and leading to them (again) overstating the severity of the incident to police.
"The expression 'fit and proper person', standing alone, carries no precise meaning. It takes its meaning from its context, from the activities in which the person is or will be engaged and the ends to be served by those activities. The concept of 'fit and proper' cannot be entirely divorced from the conduct of the person who is or will be engaging in those activities. However, depending on the nature of the activities, the question may be whether improper conduct has occurred, whether it is likely to occur, whether it can be assumed that it will not occur, or whether the general community will have confidence that it will not occur. The list is not exhaustive but it does indicate that, in certain contexts, character (because it provides indication of likely future conduct) or reputation (because it provides indication of public perception as to likely future conduct) may be sufficient to ground a finding that a person is not fit and proper to undertake the activities in question."
"The question whether a person is fit and proper is one of value judgment. In that process the seriousness or otherwise of particular conduct is a matter for evaluation by the decision maker. So too is the weight, if any, to be given to matters favouring the person whose fitness and propriety are under consideration."
"In my opinion what is meant by that expression is that the Applicant must show not only that he is possessed of a requisite knowledge of the duties and responsibilities evolving upon him as the holder of a particular licence...but also that he is possessed of sufficient moral integrity and rectitude of character as to permit him to be safely accredited to the public...as a person to be entrusted with the sort of work which the licence entails."
"The issue of whether a person is fit and proper due to past criminal conduct is a matter of judgement. In considering that issue the Tribunal is required to take into account the nature and seriousness of the original misconduct, any events relevant to an 4assessment of the applicant's fitness which have occurred since then, the candour with which the applicant has approached the issue of past misconduct, the applicant's explanation of the misconduct, the impact of the effluxion of time, and the applicant's present circumstances and reputation."
"... the Tribunal is required to take into account the nature and seriousness of the original conduct, any events relevant to an assessment of the Applicant's fitness which have occurred since then, the candour with which the Applicant has approached the issue of past conduct, the Applicant's explanation of the conduct, the impact of the effluxion of time and the Applicant's present circumstances and reputation..."
"If, after a further period of good behaviour in the community, Mr Cooper were to re-apply, and provide evidence indicating his rehabilitation, such as recent character references and evidence of continued positive involvement in the community, then such an application may be able to be favourably considered."
"● the nature, seriousness and frequency of any criminal offences for which the applicant has been arrested or convicted;
● the nature, seriousness and frequency of any complaints made against the applicant;
● the applicant's driving record;
● the applicant's reputation in the community; and
● the likelihood that the applicant will reoffend, be the subject of further complaints or commit further traffic offences.
In assessing the last factor, several considerations are relevant. These include: the length of time since the offence/s were committed or the complaint/s made; the circumstances in which those offences or complaints occurred or are alleged to have occurred; whether the applicant admits responsibility for the offences or complaints and shows genuine remorse; the efforts the applicant has made to rehabilitate himself or herself during that time and; any change in the applicants circumstances such as increased support from friends, family or professional service providers."
Is the Applicant a fit and proper person to hold a Certificate?
(1) he is not an eligible person to hold a certificate of registration under s 14(3) of the PSA; and
(2) section 19 of the PSA requires that he not be issued with a Certificate.
(1) The decision of the Respondent to refuse the application is affirmed.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
Garland
Commissioner for Fair Trading [2025] NSWCATOD 28
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