[2025] FWC 1813
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-06-25
Original judgment source is linked above.
s 120 - Redundancy pay
Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd Trading AS Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre
Variation of redundancy pay - whether other acceptable employment offered - alternate role did not constitute other acceptable employment - loss of job security and other associated benefits of permanent full-time employment more significant - casual role offered not acceptable other employment -acceptable other employment not obtained - Applicant not found to be unable to pay redundancy entitlement - application dismissed.
We (Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd) are writing to formally advise you of your intention to offer you redeployment to Perth Building Projects Pty Ltd. under the direction of Gerard Gordon. This information is being sent via email given the limited direct contact the Director/Employer of Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd. has had with you.
As you are award, in September 2024, you expressed your intention to leave the company to pursue alternative employment within the police sector, though no specific end date has been provided at this stage. In good faith we have continued your employment, despite notice having been provided, which could have been accepted with two weeks notice.
Given the company's current financial position, we are struggling to sustain your employment under Fox & Gordon as a Supervisor Carpenter & not working within our childcare centres, which would have a direct operational benefit. Additionally, since you have not been actively working for Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd for some time & have instead been fulfilling duties for Perth Building Projects, which you have accepted, there are no ongoing roles available within Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd. that we can offer you.
However, we value your contributions and would like to provide you with the opportunity to continue working with our associated entity in a similar capacity. We are offering you a deployment to Perth Building Projects Pty Ltd, where you would be continuing to work under the direction of Gerard Gordon. This position would be on a casual basis, with your current hourly rate remaining unchanged, which well exceeds the current award pay rate under the Building & Construction Award.
We appreciated your contributions and want to ensure you have clarity regarding your employment options. If you have any suggestions or reasons as to why the above should not take place, we would appreciate receiving them via return email.
Following the formal invitation to attend a meeting (which was scheduled to occur at 1.00pm, Wednesday 2nd April 2025) which you declined, your rejection of deployment to Perth Building Projects Pty Ltd, and failure to provide any suitable suggestions or alternative solutions, we wish to advise that you will not be offered ongoing employment with Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd T/As Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre. This is due to your position no longer being required by Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd T/As Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre, due to changes in the operational requirements of the company. Additionally, the company has found that we are no longer able to financially sustain your position & the associated wages. AS a result, we are providing you with two weeks' notice in accordance with your employment contract.
The following entitlements will be paid to you on the 1st May 2025:
Given your refusal of redeployment to Perth Building Projects Pty Ltd, following the delivery of this Termination of Employment Letter Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd T/As Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre will be submitted an F45A application form to Fair Work with regards to any redundancy payments.
Please ensure that all uniform shifts, company property & the remote for the electronic gate (for the Gibbs Road property) are returned on your final day of employment.
(1) An employee is entitled to be paid redundancy pay by the employer if the employee's employment is terminated:
(a) at the employer's initiative because the employer no longer requires the job done by the employee to be done by anyone, except where this is due to the ordinary and customary turnover of labour; or
(b) because of the insolvency or bankruptcy of the employer.
Note: Sections 121, 122 and 123 describe situations in which the employee does
(2) The amount of the redundancy pay equals the total amount payable to the employee for the redundancy pay period worked out using the following table at the employee's base rate of pay for his or her ordinary hours of work:
Employee's period of continuous service with the employer on termination
120 Variation of redundancy pay for other employment or incapacity to pay
(a) an employee is entitled to be paid an amount of redundancy pay by the employer because of section 119; and
(i) obtains other acceptable employment for the employee; or
(2) On application by the employer, the FWC may determine that the amount of redundancy pay is reduced to a specific amount (which may be nil) that the FWC considers appropriate.
(3) The amount of redundancy pay to which the employee is entitled under section 119 is the reduced amount specified in the determination.
[65] The above decisions have some common features, including:
In all communications between Fox and Gordon Pty Ltd personnel and Mr. Vermeulen, there was no mention of redundancy or any redundancy payment. The company strongly denies that the term redundancy was ever used in discussions with Mr. Vermeulen. It appears that he may have interpreted the information provided to him in a way that led to the assumption he is entitled to a redundancy payment.[6]
4.1 Did Montessori EYLCC obtain other acceptable employment for Mr Vermeulen?
4.2 Am I satisfied that Montessori EYLCC cannot pay the redundancy amount?
(b) A statement from Paula Rogers, who works in the Montessori EYLC accounts department. Ms Rogers' evidence is that the decision to end Mr Vermeulen's employment due to serious and ongoing cash flow difficulties that were significantly affecting the business' sustainability. No further detail regarding these cash flow difficulties is provided.
(a) A loan account statement from National Australia Bank showing transactions from 30 April 2025 to 1 May 2025.
(b) A statement overview from Prospa for the period Tuesday 1 April 2025 to Wednesday 30 April 2025.
(c) A remuneration report that shows that Mr Vermeulen received the highest hourly rate out of Montessori EYLCC's employees.

[6] Fox and Gordon Pty Ltd, 'Final Response Submission', Submission in Application by Fox and Gordon Pty Ltd T/A Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre, C2025/2511, 15 May 2025, [14].
[7] Letter from Michael Beer, Munro's Accountants and Business Advisors, 23 April 2025.
[8] I have tried to refer to the details in this document in general terms to preserve Montessori's EYLCC privacy.
[9] Jonathan Vermeulen, 'Written Submissions - Termination and Redeployment of Mr Jonathan Vermeulen', Submission in Application by Fox and Gordon Pty Ltd T/A Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre, C2025/2511, 30 April 2025.
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Fox & Gordon Pty Ltd Trading AS Montessori Early Years Learning and Care Centre
Jonathan Vermeulen [2025] FWC 1813