That company [Kawina] was a trustee for a unit trust in which the units were held equally by you and by Danehill?---It was set up like that by the Frichots, yes, correct.
Yes, but you had a direct commercial interest of your own in this venture?---What happened, we - - -
Can we not just try to keep - is what I put to you accurate?---The paperwork shows that, but its not quite like that. We instructed Frichot & Frichot to - me and my father were looking at this property and when I picked up the file they did it Danehill and myself, but that doesn't mean that at the end - we don't know whose going to take what because the deal is not finalised.
Mr Fazio, the truth is that a company was set up. It was the trustee of the unit trust. The units were held equally by you and Danehill. It's as simple as that, isn't it?---Yes, that's the paperwork.
Right, and you had a personal interest in this venture?---No, I don't see it that way, no, not at all.
You were going to have in commercial terms 50 per cent of it along with Danehill having 50 per cent?---No, absolutely not, no.
What was going to happen to your 50 per cent?---I've just explained myself.
What was going to happen to it?---I didn't have 50 per cent. The situation was that I instructed Frichot that me and my father were looking at land at Rowley Road, to use a shelf company, so they put Danehill 50 per cent, myself 50 per cent.
Without your knowledge or consent?---They just did it and when we picked up the file that's how it was and - - - .(ts 456 - 457)