[2025] VCC 1269
General information, not legal advice.
County Court of Victoria
2025-09-01
Mr P
Original judgment source is linked above.
2014] VSCA 94; R v Schwabegger (1997) 4 VR 650; R v Katsoulas [2008] VSCA 278; Dragojlovic v The Queen [2013] VSCA 151; (2013) 40 VR 71; Ly Dang v Director of Public Prosecutions [2014] VSCA 49; Director of Public Prosecutions v Milson [2019] VSCA 55.
Sentence: TES: 3 years and 10 months imprisonment with a non-parole period of 2 years and 4 months.
6AAA: 5 years and 3 months imprisonment with a non-parole period of 4 years.
Firearms Act 1996 (Vic) s112B
Possessing a firearm whilst being subject to a firearm prohibition order on 23 November 2023
Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) s325
Assisting an unknown principal offender knowing or believing them to be guilty of a serious indictable offence namely discharging a firearm at a vehicle with reckless disregard for safety and doing acts with the purpose of impeding the apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or punishment of the said principal offender without lawful authority or reasonable excuse
Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) s77
Aggravated burglary with intent to steal while reckless as to whether a person was present
Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) s74
(a) You were in possession of this firearm,
(b) You obtained this firearm from the principal offender, whose identity is unknown;
(c) That you impeded the apprehension, prosecution, conviction or punishment of the principal offender by your possession and hiding of this firearm.
(a) There was a mixed profile of four contributors on the trigger guard where you were not excluded; and
(b) There was a mixed partial mixed DNA of three contributors on the handle, where you were not excluded.
(a) There was a single area of impact damage across the front bonnet and windshield;
(b) The area of damage contained multiple impact sites caused by the passage of a fired shot from a single discharge which had ricocheted off the bonnet and windshield;
(c) There was damage to the snorkel and to the surfboard and bag on the roof;
(d) The damage showed that the shot fired impacted the bonnet and windshields on a relatively flat trajectory and that the fired shot originated on the driver's side and forward of the vehicle.
(a) Outline of submissions for sentencing indication on 10 February 2025
(b) Outline of submissions for sentencing indication on 29 July 2025
(c) Outline of submissions for plea (dealing with totality) on 26 August 2025
(d) Report of Dr Matthew Staois 20 May 2025
(e) Eastern Health Discharge Summary 9 August 2024
(f) Letter from Karly Doyle of Ontrack 9 August 2024
(g) Letter of Samantha Mark 28 October 2024
(h) Letter of Donna Chandler 28 October 2024
(i) Email of Samantha Mark 30 October 2024
(j) Urine Screen Results Bundle
(k) Various medical documents relating to your hospitalisation
(l) ATLAS Certificates in Custody
(m) CISP suitability reports 27 November 2024, 11 December 2024, 10 February 2025 and 13 June 2025
(a) Began using illicit substances in late adolescence (alcohol, cannabis, Valium Xanax)
(b) Before using methamphetamines (18 years)
(c) GHB (19 years)
(d) Heroin (31 years)
(e) Suboxone injections (Buvidal) in custody, which I am told that you will continue to use upon your release in community
poly-substance abuse since youth, which I take to be part of the pro-criminal environment that you were raised in. 3. You have simply too many prior Court appearances for me to count. They take up 56 pages of your LEAP criminal history record. You have committed almost every species of offending (save for sex offences), including
(a) Dishonesty
(b) Driving
(c) Endangerment offences
(d) Weapons offences (including firearms)
(e) Drug use and sale of multiple substances
(f) Resist and assault police (later whilst on duty)
(g) Breaches of bail,
(h) Breaches of CCO
(i) Causing injury, damage property
Mr El Abed will require ongoing support moving forward, given the nature of his medical history and cognitive profile. I note he is presently being supported by medical and allied health staff in custody. However, concerns have been raised by allied health staff with regards to providing him with appropriate rehabilitation. Medical treatment summaries and emails provided by OTs have indicated that they do not possess the specific skills needed to assist with providing Mr El Abed with tailored strategies to manage his cognitive deficits in the area of stroke. Mr El Abed is approximately 11 months post-stroke and continues to display significant cognitive issues, particularly in the area of new learning and memory. The added stress of a custodial setting is likely to further impact his rehabilitation capacity, due to a combination of limited access to appropriate specialists and symptoms of mood. He will require ongoing rehabilitation for the foreseeable future.
Mr El Abed has a very vulnerable brain. Several parts of his brain that have been impacted as a result of the stroke have been linked to complications concerning mood disorders, including depression. Survivors of stroke are prone to mood disorders. His mental health will need to be carefully monitored moving forward, particularly if he is to remain in a custody setting for an extended period. His history of excessive substance use is a factor that will need to be given careful consideration following his release from custody. Given the nature of his stroke, ongoing substance use will likely present further cognitive impairment and disability. At present, while cognitive deficits were noticed, he has not suffered from any form of physical disability (he can walk, use his arms) and can carry out a range of tasks independently. He stated he does not have an enduring power of attorney in place to assist him with making more complex decisions. His cognitive status remains unclear at this point, and further recovery may be possible. However, it is my opinion that he should consider appointing a family member to assist him with making complex decisions around medical, financial, and legal matters.
(a) Circumstances of the index offence
(b) State of belief that you held about that offence
(c) Actions taken by you to prevent arrest or detention
(d) Your motive for same
(e) The nature, extent and duration of the relationship, if any between you and the relevant principal.
(f) The presence or absence of any coercion of a threat to you or others to obtain your participation
(g) Duration of your participation
(h) Degree of success of your actions
(a) Landmark v The Queen,[16] in which a sentence of 2 years and 3 months' imprisonment was imposed for assisting a principal offender who had shot and fatally wounded a victim; the offence was defensive homicide. The offender was present at the shooting and had assisted in covering up the crime. He had previous convictions, and the plea was a late one. A co-offender was sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment, receiving a discount for his co-operation with police and willingness to give evidence against his co-offenders.
(b) Director of Public Prosecutions v Matthews & Burford,[17] in which a sentence of 12 months' imprisonment was imposed for the offence of accessory after the fact to manslaughter. The offender assisted the principal offender to remove the deceased's body and dispose of it in a mine shaft. He was promised, and given, a car in exchange for his assistance. He had some prior convictions. He pleaded guilty early, assisted police and gave an undertaking to give evidence against the principal offender. A co-offender, who lacked any financial motive, received a community correction order of 16 months
(c) Director of Public Prosecutions v Abbott,[18] in which a sentence of 16 months' imprisonment was imposed for assisting a principal offender who had driven a motorbike on a footpath and seriously injured a pedestrian, leaving him with a brain injury and cognitive impairment. The offender disposed of the motorbike, and it was not located by police for some months. The offender pleaded guilty early and had a range of prior convictions.
(d) The Queen v Dowdy,[19] where a bond was imposed on an offender who had assisted in erasing video evidence implicating the principal offender in the offence of manslaughter;
(e) R v Zeidan,[20] where sentences of 6 months and 9 months, wholly suspended, were imposed for assisting Antonios Mokbel to flee Australia during the course of his trial for the offence of importation of cocaine;
(f) R v Prestage,[21] where a sentence of 2 years and 3 months' imprisonment was imposed on an offender who, believing the principal offender had committed manslaughter, assisted in removing the body from scene and dumping it in mineshaft;
(g) Director of Public Prosecutions v Bahnert,[22] where a sentence of 2 years, wholly suspended, was imposed for the assisting a principal offender who had intentionally caused serious injury; and
(h) R v Armstrong,[23] where a sentence of 8 months, wholly suspended, was imposed for assisting a principal offender who had intentionally caused injury.
(i) Director of Public Prosecutions v Miller,[24] in which a sentence of 18 months' imprisonment was imposed for assisting the offence of intentionally cause injury (although the victim later died). The offender, who had a criminal history, took possession of the knife used by the principal offender to stab the victim and disposed of it by placing it on a window ledge around the corner from the offending. The offender had pleaded not guilty to manslaughter (of which he was acquitted) but offered to plead guilty to assisting the principal offender (of which he was ultimately convicted following a trial). That offer was a relevant mitigating factor.
(j) Director of Public Prosecutions v Hindes,[25] in which a 30 month community correction order was imposed for assisting a principal offender who had engaged in culpable driving. The offender, who had no criminal history, had pleaded guilty following a sentence indication. He had been a passenger in the offending car and had assisted the principal offender to escape.
(a) First, where it is not open that the possession of the firearm is associated with ongoing criminal activity, and
(b) Second, where the evidence enables the conclusion that the possession is for the purpose of criminal activity or a specific criminal purpose.
(a) an offender's criminal history, especially for firearms convictions. Especially in your case that is relevant; and
(b) any circumstantial evidence that enables the conclusion the firearm was in possession for an unlawful activity.
(a) the number of firearms involved - here, it is one
(b) the nature of the firearm - in that the firearm is capable of great lethality is considered more serious. This is a semi-automatic weapon, shortened for concealment.
(c) whether the weapon is loaded and/or the presence of ammunition. This applies. There was a detachable magazine and 27 cartridges and the item was loaded.
(d) where the firearm and ammunition are not kept securely, or are readily accessible and capable of being retrieved and discharged quickly - which has less application given the above circumstances.
(e) the duration of the possession - possession for a longer period may aggravate the offending, but possession for a short period may not mitigate the offending if it is designed to reduce the risk of being caught.
(f) the status of the offender, either as a prohibited person or the subject of a firearm prohibition order, and the nature and extent of their prior history. In your case, your prior history discloses that you are quite comfortable possessing weapons. You have done so before and been imprisoned for it before. You disobeyed a prohibition order imposed on 30 April 2021.
non-parole period of four years. 3. Thanks very much both of you. Mr Elabed, I wish you well in your endeavours post-release. As I said, I encourage you to work hard to be paroled at the earliest opportunity and be a dad to your daughter. You also have a number of health concerns that mean, as I said, you are going to have to look after yourself and by looking after yourself it is hoped that you will avoid any further involvement in the criminal justice system. Thanks very much.
Heidelberg Magistrates Court plea to driving and other offences
All witnesses attended. Discharged on charge 7 - statement of drugs seized in hospital not on brief.
Pleas of not guilty to 1 - 6 inclusive. Alibi caution given. Remanded in custody as no application for trial bail. Listed for IDH on 21 October 2024.
Listed for a case assessment hearing on 18 December 2024. All outstanding Pros materials to be filed and served by 4 Dec 2024.
Listed for IDH on 16 December 2024. No application for bail.
Adjourned administratively on 28 November 2024, due to email from new legal representatives who may be instructed in the matter seeking adjournment for time to get and review material. Current legal reps unaware of accused seeking new representation.
Case Conference and Bail Application proceeded. Adjourned for a DH on 28 February 2025.
Also listed with accused's other matter (2406079) for Sentence Indication and Bail Application on 28 February 2025.
Sentence indication proceeded on CR- 24-01998. HH will indicate head sentence tomorrow. HH's indication will be on the basis that there are potential matters in mitigation that have not been made out. If indication is accepted by defence, the court will order a forensicare report.
Matter adjourned for Application for Bail on 11 March 2025. Defence are intending to obtain a neurological assessment and report.
HH orders defence responses are to be filed by 3 March 2025.
Both matters listed for trial on 1 September 2025 for 15 days. Parties to decide which trial goes first.
Mr Elabed appeared from remand but was not represented. Yet to confirm new representation. He said he was not able to pay his last solicitors.
HHJ Dempsey retained 11 March for Bail Application.
Accused unrepresented. Adjourned for Mention on 18 March 2025.
Accused represented by new solicitors. Adjourned for Defence to obtain material. Listed for Mention on 8 April 2025.
Adjourned for Prosecution to consider Defence offer (informant Farrelly matter only). Listed for Mention on 30 April 2025.
CR-24-01998 - Arraigned on the plea indictment. Particulars taken but Criminal Record not yet admitted. Plea listed to follow Trial in other matter on 1 September 2025.
CR-24-01658 - Final directions hearing 29 July 2025. Amended summary of prosecution opening and notices by 25 June 2025. Defence response and any pre-trial issues by 16 July 2025.
Defence requested sentence indication for both matters. HH stated he could not give a global sentence indication on both of accused's matters as accused has already entered a plea to CR-24- 01998. HH raised concerns about multiple hearing using court resources without sufficient material. Defence indicated they had psych report for sentence indication. Sentence indication listed for CR-24-01658 on 5 August 2025. CR-24-01998 - adjourned to plea listed 1 Sep 2025.
Sentence Indication of TES 1 yr 10m with NPP 14m. Adjourned for Mention
Certify fresh Indictment Number P124950020.1 filed. Full arraignment. Further Plea and Sentence listed 1
[1] Which makes prison a source of anxiety and perceived danger for you.
[2] Exhibit 4: Report of Dr Matthew Staios dated 20 May 2025.
[3] Exhibit A: Summary of Prosecution Opening dated 18 August 2025.
[5] Which is important in this exercise, given s.16(1A)(e) of the Sentencing Act 1991.
[6] Exhibit B: VIS of Nayfi ELCHEIKH dated 29 August 2025.
[7] Which makes prison a source of anxiety for you, as I have noted earlier.
[8] Exhibit 10: Urine Creen Results Bundle, (negative screens).
[10] Exhibit 5: Eastern Health Discharge Summary dated 9 August 2025.
[11] Exhibit 7: Letter of Samantha Mark dated 28 October 2024, and Exhibit 9: Email from Samantha Mark 30 October 2024, correspondence from Ms Mark at Forensicare between 28 October 2024 and 30 October 2024.
[13] Exhibit 8 letter Donna Chandler, see also Exhibit 12: ATLAS Certificates in Custody.
[15] I have also reviewed the entire case collection provided by the JCV at 8.7.
[26] See Berichon v The Queen (2013) VR 490 and _Faza_l v The Queen [2024] VSCA 161.
[28] I have had regard to sentencing practices (by reference to sentencing statistics and the JCV case collection), which are not a controlling factor in my decision by any means. They do not set a numerical limit on the upper and lower limits of the appropriate sentence in any particular case.
[29] On 12 February 2025 I indicated I would impose a sentence of not more than 3 years and 2 months (noting that the PSD accumulated in relating to this this matter be reckoned as served).
[30] See Cameron v The Queen (2002) 209 CLR 339, 343-4 [11-[15] (Gaudron, Gummow & Callinan JJ).
[31] Arthars v The Queen [2013] VSCA 258; (2013) 39 VR 613 (Arthars), 621 [29].
[32] R v Cockerell [2001] VSCA 239; (2001) 126 A Crim R 444, 447 [10].
[33] See. Arthars at 621 [27]; Chandler v The Queen [2010] VSCA 338, [19].
[34] Arthars at [28]-[30], see also Weartherburn [2023] VSCA 283.
[38] Ly Dang v DPP [2014] VSCA 49.
[39] Exhibit 13: CISP suitability report dated 27 November 2024; Exhibit 14: CISP Suitability report dated 11 December 2024; Exhibit 15: CISP Suitability report dated 10 February 2025; Exhibit 16: CISP Suitability report dated 13 June 2025.
[40] Sentencing Act 1991 (Vic) ss 51(1)(c) and 51(1)(e). See DPP v Milson [2019] VSCA 55, [71].
DPP
Elabed [2025] VCC 1269
(2007) 16 VR 269
(2002) 209 CLR 339
(2013) 39 VR 613
(1997) 4 VR 650
(2013) 40 VR 71