Second, third and fourth grounds
32 These grounds of appeal all relate to the interpretation issue. They are (as written):
2. The AAT overlooked crux of the appellant's relating to the problems of interpreting when the interpreter at the Tribunal hearing had not accurately interpreted issues raised by the Tribunal and had not translated accurately. The Appellant claims that the Bangali Language interpreter was himself confused abut the issues raised by the Tribunal and the interpreter was interpreting the whole thing. The interpreter was making himself questions of facts which the Appellant was not aware at all. Not doing a qualitative assessment of the conduct of the Tribunal may be treated as a jurisdictional error.
3. This issue was raised in case Appellant P119/2002v Minister for Immigration and Indigenious Affairs {2003} FCAFC 230 at [17] and [22].
4. Hon Judge raised concern but the Appellant did not had a finanancial capacity to get transcript of Tribunal hearing. During the time of hearing the Tribunal asked many questions to confuse the Applicant. The Appellant claims he was denied procedural fairness because hearing was not conducted freely and fairly.
33 In explaining these grounds, the appellant said that the problem with the interpreter at the Tribunal hearing was that CVO15 is from the Jessore District and the interpreter "must be from Chittagong or other district" and the dialects "vary very differently". He explained that, while he understood the interpreter in these proceedings, he did not understand the accent of the interpreter at the Tribunal hearing or what he was saying. He submitted that the interpreter at the Tribunal hearing questioned some of the evidence but that was not his role and his ethics were compromised. In relation to the fact that there was no transcript in evidence, CVO15 said that he could not afford one and had not been told where he could get one.
34 CVO15 submitted that in the Tribunal hearing he was asked the same question "plenty of times" but the wording was different and he got confused and the interpreter did not help him much. That is why he says that he was not given procedural fairness.
35 CVO15 said that he could not remember what the cited case in ground three was about. He said that the person who wrote "this submission" had told him that this case related to his case but he could not remember what the issue is.
36 The Minister submitted that:
(1) There was no evidence before the primary judge, such as a transcript, to support CVO15's claims concerning the standard of interpretation at the Tribunal hearing.
(2) CVO15 signed consent orders dated 29 January 2016 in relation to preparation for the hearing in the Federal Circuit Court. Order 3 relevantly provided that:
… Evidence of a Tribunal hearing, shall be presented as a transcript verified by affidavit and a tape recording shall not be received without the leave of the Court obtained prior to the hearing.
Evidence was to be filed by 25 March 2016. The hearing took place on 16 June 2016. The appellant made no attempt at any time before the hearing to seek assistance to obtain the transcript and he did not raise the issue of financial incapacity with the primary judge. He made no submissions at the hearing before the primary judge: see J[28].
(3) CVO15's response to the invitation from the Tribunal to appear at the hearing indicates that he requires the assistance of an interpreter in the "Bengala" language but there is no reference to a specific dialect. The interpreter at the Tribunal hearing was at NAATI level 3, a professional standard. The hearing commenced at 8.40 am and ended at 10.25 am on 4 December 2015: see the Court Book at pp 123-127. The Tribunal's decision record, which is the only evidence of the proceedings in the Tribunal that was before the primary judge and this Court, does not record that any issue was raised with the Tribunal member concerning the interpretation. What it does reflect is that there was meaningful discussion in respect of CVO15's claims and that the Tribunal fairly confronted him with the concerns that it had so that he had a meaningful opportunity to present evidence and arguments.
(4) It is clear from the Full Court's decision in Appellant P119/2002 v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural & Indigenous Affairs [2003] FCAFC 230 at [18]-[20] that there was before that Court an affidavit setting out a fresh translation by a different translator of the proceedings before the Tribunal and the appellant in that case accepted that the translation was accurate. There is no such evidence here.
(5) At J[33]-[35], the primary judge correctly cited applicable law and correctly noted that not only was there no transcript, but there was no evidence from any witness to the proceedings. There is no evidence before this Court to support this element of the grounds of the appeal and the primary judge's reasons reveal no appellable error.
37 I accept the Minister's submissions. There is no evidence of interpretation error. The only evidence before the Court, the Tribunal's decision record, indicates that the Tribunal put its concerns to CVO15 and he was given the opportunity to respond to those concerns. On some occasions he responded and others he did not. The consent orders indicate that CVO15 was put on notice of how evidence of the proceedings of the Tribunal must be presented. The fact that no one told him where he might get a transcript is not relevant. Had he approached the Tribunal or the Minister's legal representative, that information would have been readily available. As the Minister's representative pointed out, it appears that CVO15 has had some assistance in relation to his applications to the Federal Circuit Court and the grounds of appeal. There is no evidence that CVO15 made any complaint to the Tribunal member concerning the interpretation. The decision record in this matter is a careful document and, given that, the Court would expect the Tribunal to record such a complaint had one occurred together with an explanation of why the Tribunal elected to proceed. Nothing of that nature is to be found in the decision record. I therefore conclude that CVO15 has not demonstrated any procedural unfairness on the claimed bases nor appellable error by the primary judge.
38 These grounds are not made out.