[2025] NSWCATAP 316
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NCAT Appeal Panel
2025-12-18
S Westgarth, Deputy PresidentH Woods, Senior Member
Original judgment source is linked above.
(1) $150.00 for rubbish removal;
(2) $1,250.00 to remedy poor workmanship in respect of the replacement of a door and door frame;
(3) $550.00 for the cost of installing an architrave the respondent failed to install;
(4) $850.00 to replace interior particleboard flooring which the appellant claimed had had been exposed to external elements for 14 months;
(5) $1067.00 to investigate and repair a short circuit following the removal of a fountain and water pump by the respondent; and
(6) Damages for the cost to remedy defective work in respect of the replacement of a strip drain. This included a claim for the cost to install paving.
(1) Ordered that the claim, which had been filed as a building claim under the HB Act be determined as consumer claim under the FT Act and the ACL because the value of the work performed by the respondent was less than $5000.00;
(2) Found in favour of the appellant for amounts of:
(a) $500.00 for the cost to repair damaged brickwork, caused by the defective instillation of a door and door frame;
(b) $20.00 for silicon to be applied to a gap between the door frame and an internal wall;
(c) $1,250.00 for rectification work in respect of a defectively installed door;
(d) $250.00 for a missing architrave;
(e) $250.00 in respect of a damages particle board flooring; and
(3) Otherwise rejected the amounts claimed by the appellant and ordered the respondent to pay the appellant $2,270.00.
(1) the decision to determine the matter as a consumer claim rather than a building claim;
(2) the acceptance into evidence of documents served by the respondent the evening before the hearing; and
(3) the rejection by the Tribunal of amounts the appellant says were claimed.
Ground 0: ... that the case should not have been moved from the Home Building Division to the General Division as a Consumer Claim as the condition of the move was not valid;
Ground 1: ...procedural fairness was not afforded to the Applicant.
Ground 2: Abandoned Strip Drain Installed in Sandstone Landing - The claim was rejected for lack of evidence, despite two detailed quotations and supporting documentation being submitted specifically addressing the issue.
Ground 3: Electrical Repair Arising from Guarantee Breach of Duty of Care and Skill - Claim rejected Based on Unverified and Late information provided by [the Respondent].
Ground 4: Rubbish removal - claim was referred to but overlooked in Final Orders.
Ground 5: Leaking shower seals - Claim overlooked in Final Orders. Value: $1,263.90.
1 Section A - Evidence Given to the Tribunal at First Instance...
2 Section B - Evidence Not Provided to the Tribunal at First Instance...
3 Section C - Appellant's Written Submissions...
4 Section D - Typed transcript of the Relevant Parts of the Hearing...
5 Section E - Leave Requested to Amend Claim...
Ground 1: Question of Law - case moved from home building division to the general division;
Ground 2: Failure to provide procedural fairness by Tribunal accepting untested evidence;
Ground 3: Rejection of [appellant's] claim for the strip drain in the Sandstone landing area was not fair and equitable;
Ground 4: Dismissing the electrical repair claim, based on late untested evidence from [the respondent] was not fair and equitable;
Ground 5: Rubbish removal - overlooked despite acknowledgement in Tribunal orders;
Ground 6: Leaking shower seals;
Ground 7: Refund account credit - overlooked in order
(1) A question of law should be articulated with precision;
(2) Absent leave to appeal, the question of law is the subject of the appeal;
(3) A question of law means a "pure question of law" which is not dependent on facts not found and is not dependent on the answer to the question;
(4) A party contending that a question of law was wrongly decided must identify the question in abstract terms;
(5) A mixed question of fact and law is not a question of law, and a question of law must not be hypothetical or arid;
(6) A question of law must be capable of affecting orders the subject of the appeal, not purely the reasons; and
(7) There may be disclosed an error of law but this of itself does not necessarily raise a question of law.
(1) 12(1)(a) - the decision of the Tribunal under appeal was not fair and equitable; or
(2) 12(1)(b) - the decision of the Tribunal under appeal was against the weight of evidence; or
(3) 12(1)(c) - significant new evidence has arisen (being evidence that was not reasonably available at the time the proceedings under appeal were being dealt with).
"... there was a "significant possibility" or a "chance which was fairly open" that a different and more favourable result would have been achieved for the appellant had the relevant circumstance in para (a) or (b) not occurred or if the fresh evidence under para (c) had been before the Tribunal at first instance."
(a) issues of principle;
(b) questions of public importance or matters of administration or policy which might have general application; or
(c) an injustice which is reasonably clear, in the sense of going beyond merely what is arguable, or an error that is plain and readily apparent which is central to the Tribunal's decision and not merely peripheral, so that it would be unjust to allow the finding to stand;
(d) a factual error that was unreasonably arrived at and clearly mistaken; or
(e) the Tribunal having gone about the fact-finding process in such an unorthodox manner or in such a way that it was likely to produce an unfair result so that it would be in the interests of justice for it to be reviewed.
Ground 1 (also referred to as ground 2) Failure to provide Procedural fairness in respect of evidence which the respondent served late.
General Member (GM): OK. Could you hand that to Mr Curtis? Mr Curtis, same procedure. I will ask you if you have got any objection to it. Take your time.
Curtis: I do have an objection.
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Curtis: Sorry, when I am objecting, am I objecting to the accuracy of it or am I objecting to -
GM: OK. Your first objection might be is filed out of time...There might be others, I don't k now.
Curtis: Okay, I understand.
GM: ... Now, if you disagree with something that is said in the statement, that is something you can ask a question about. But that does not mean that the document's inadmissible.
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Curtis: The first objection is I only got it last night.
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Curtis: 9:00 pm. It is well outside the limits. It is the first time I have seen anything from the -
GM: Well, that's late, isn't it?
GM: I will ask you some questions about that in a second. Anything else?
Curtis: There are inaccuracies in here from my...
GM: Well, you can ask him questions about that if you disagree with something that he said. If it gets in. But you have got to ask him anyway. But anyway. So, that is not an objection to the tender. Sorry, it is not an objection. It is something that you might want to test.
Curtis: Right. Okay. Then, perhaps, that is it then. I have not had a chance to digest...
GM: ...Having received it last night, at about 9:00 pm, you said, and it is two substantive pages, and then there is some texts, something about payments, more texts, more texts, something, and just more texts. How would you be prejudiced if I allowed this to go in, albeit it's late? ... And what usually the question is, is are you going to suffer any prejudice as a result of if it gets in...You might have to go and get a document or something. And so you would need extra time to think about and respond to something that was in here. So that would be a question of prejudice. ....So how would you be prejudiced?
Curtis: Look, I really could not even answer that question at this point because I have not had a chance to see...
GM: In any case, were you. I will give you 10 minutes and then I will come back. I am going to take a break. I will come back and you can tell me that prejudice you are going to suffer. So that is how it is done clearly, Mr Curtis.
Curtis: I do appreciate this.
[There was then an adjournment for a short period]
GM: Alright, so, back to the question. What is the prejudice?
Curtis: I am not too sure I have got this right, but there are dates in there that are a sequence with the actual events.
GM: You can ask questions about that, of course.
Curtis: Yes. I am only raising that I may not have the information easily available to me now.
GM: What does it go to? What are the dates about?
Curtis: The dates are about, again, I did not want to give a pre-emptive answer.
GM: What is the topic, is it when work was done when payments were made?
Curtis: The suggestion that I actually organised something but before the event could have happened.
GM: You can ask questions about that...I do not think you would be prejudiced by that.... that is just something that you can ask questions about if you wish to. Ultimately, I am just going to look at the documents. I mean, I think largely this is a documentary case, but that is not my decision on it. But that is an indication, I think, that there may be some things that appear to be important that probably are not important.
Curtis: Alright.
GM: Okay well thank you for telling me about that prejudice it seems to me though you would be able to cope with it or deal with it rather than me adjourning the matter, because that is what I have to do. I did not have to not let it in or I' have to adjourn to give you the chance to respond to it.
Curtis: Let's struggle our way through.
GM: Thank you. Good decision. Mr Mav, I support that. How about you?
Respondent's solicitor: Yes
59 In determining proceedings before it, the Tribunal is under a duty to afford procedural fairness to the parties. .... Procedural fairness requires that the Tribunal give the parties a fair hearing, and that it be free from actual or apprehended bias. The term "procedural fairness" is synonymous with natural justice (the latter term is used in s 38(2) of the NCAT Act).
60 It is well established that the Tribunal must conduct a hearing that gives procedural fairness to both parties, even taking into account the less formal nature of Tribunal proceedings (s 38(4) and subs (5) of the NCAT Act). What is necessary and appropriate to ensure a fair hearing depends on the particular facts and statutory context, rules of procedural fairness being flexible and adaptable so as to be appropriate in a given case so as to avoid practical injustice ....
62 Where there has been a breach of the requirement to afford the appellant procedural fairness, the question arises whether that error was material to the Tribunal's decision. A breach of procedural fairness will constitute jurisdictional error, if the error is material to the Tribunal's decision: .... Materiality is established if the procedural unfairness deprived the appellant of a realistic possibility of a different outcome on the application lodged in the Consumer and Commercial Division.
63 If the appellant succeeds on his ground of appeal which asserts a denial of procedural fairness, it is unnecessary to consider any other issues raised in the grounds of appeal as to whether they can be formulated in substance to identify any other error on a question of law (or if not, whether leave to appeal should be granted under s 80(2)(b) and bearing in mind the limitations set out in cl 12 of Sch 4 to the NCAT Act with respect to internal appeals from decisions made by the Consumer and Commercial Division).
64 As recently noted in the Appeal Panel decision in YHY v YHZ [2024] NSWCATAP 117 at [54], authority dictates that we hear and determine a procedural unfairness challenge prior to any other challenges and that "whenever a matter is remitted for a retrial, it is preferable that the appellate court restrict its assessment of the evidence to matters necessary to the finding of error": ...
Consideration
65 Procedural fairness requires that parties have an adequate opportunity to put their case and test the case against them. By s 38(5)(c) of the NCAT Act, the Tribunal is required to take "reasonably practicable measures" "to ensure that the parties have a reasonable opportunity to be heard or otherwise have their submissions considered in the proceedings".
66 As Justice Basten stated in Italiano v Carbone & Ors [2005] NSWCA 177 at [88]:
"An opportunity foregone, but reasonably available, does not demonstrate breach of procedural fairness. To demonstrate procedural fairness it is usually necessary to show that a claimant "lost an opportunity to put any information or argument to the decision-maker, or otherwise suffered any detriment," as explained by Gleeson CJ in Re Minister for Immigration, Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs; Ex parte Lam (2003) 214 CLR 1 at [36]. As the Chief Justice continued at [37]:
'"A common form of detriment suffered where a decision-maker has failed to take a procedural step is loss of an opportunity to make representations." at [37].'"
67 If it is established that there was a denial of procedural fairness, it must then be considered whether there exists a realistic possibility that the outcome of the decision could have been different had the error not been made .... Finding that a properly conducted application would have inevitably produced the same result is not done lightly: ....
we are not satisfied that the appellant has been denied an adequate opportunity to put their case in respect of the respondent's evidence being allowed into evidence or test the respondent's case against him.
Ground 0 (also referred to as ground 1) - Moving the application from the Home Building Division to the general division.
2. The tribunal orders the application to be transferred from the Home Building Division to the General Division as a consumer claim.
Reasons The amount in dispute today is less than the threshold amount of $5000 for a home building dispute and the matter is to be determined under the Fair-Trading act and the Australian Consumer Law (ACL) ss 60 and 236.
1 This is an application filed 23/8/24 by Mr Curtis as a homeowner (the Owner) alleging a breach of contract by the respondent GRC Property Maintenance Pty Ltd (GRC) as a Builder, concerning a 'building claim' Under the home building act 1989(NSW) s 48a ('HBA') with claims for the payment of a specified sum of money under HBA s 48O (Powers of Tribunal). The Amount in dispute is $4600 which is less than the $5000 threshold for an HBA claim and there is no jurisdiction to determine this dispute under HBA.
2 However, the claim can be determined under the Fair-Trading Act 1987 (FTA) and the Australian Consumer law (ACL) where the amount is not more than $100,000.00.
Curtis: Well, I did have Gian come to my property and have a look at a whole variety of work and ultimately there was a quotation of eleven projects. Now, our relationship was looking much longer term than that and also at other projects into the future... And I selected for jobs in the beginning to have a scope that we could have a look at and see how he was going to be able to progress through the other projects. I didn't want to sort of give him an order for eleven because I wouldn't know which ones are being done and which ones are not being done yet...
GM: What was the value of those four jobs?
Curtis: The four jobs were about $4600.00
GM: OK. That immediately creates a jurisdictional issue. Because it's less than $5000. $5000 is a threshold for a building claim.
Curtis: Yes
GM: So, it means that we can't deal with it under the home building legislation, which means I switch it to the Australian Consumer Law.
(1) the appellant was prejudiced by the matter being determined as a consumer claim rather than as a building claim under the HB Act; or
(2) having regard to the Tribunals findings, the matter being determined as a consumer claim, rather than a building claim, made any difference to the result.
Documents the appellant seeks to rely on that were not before Tribunal
(1) An Appeal Panel may grant leave under section 80(2)(b) of this Act for an internal appeal against a Division decision only if the Appeal Panel is satisfied the appellant may have suffered a substantial miscarriage of justice because -
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(c) significant new evidence has arisen (being evidence that was not reasonably available at the time the proceedings under appeal were being dealt with).
B1: Response to inaccurate and unsubstantiated claims in the applicants hearing statement;
B2: evidence refuting para 12 and 13 of the [Respondent's] statement that was core to my claim of procedural fairness;
B3: evidence refuting [the respondent's] claim: contract continued until 7 April 202 four and no record of engagement by Sam the paving man;
B4: Mr Caputo misled saying he had sold GRC;
B5: ASIC extract shows Mr Caputo continues to own GRC at 14/4/2025
B5: Constantly plumbing - BBQ gas connection
B7: Shower seals
(1) a statement of the appellant taking issue with paragraphs in the statement relied on by the respondent and describing events concerning the appellant's engagement of the respondent, work performed by or arranged by the respondent and payments made by the appellant to the respondent;
(2) photos taken in June 2022;
(3) text messages exchanged in 2022, 2023 and 2024;
(4) a tax invoice from Constantly Plumbing Pty Ltd to the appellant dated 24 June 2022 for $693.00.
Ground 2 (also referred to as ground 3) Rejection of claim for $7,583.40 in respect of strip drain and reinstatement of paving in strip drain area
7 Mr Curtis contends for the following alleged breaches: ...
(4) Replacement of sandstone pavers and rectification of strip drain channel cut for installation of a stainless-steel drain, $7583.40
8 GRC contends: ...
(6) GRC contends that Mr Curtis has not proved any defect in the preparatory work done by it consisting of cutting a channel in the sandstone pavers, and denies it as liable for the cost of rectification work consisting of filling the channel and replacing the sandstone pavers;
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19 Mr Curtis did not obtain any report from a person with relevant knowledge (even if not an expert report) as he was concerned about the cost and whether or not he will be able to recover any cost. Instead, he largely relies on his own assertions although he says he has some experience as an owner builder. In addition, Mr Curtis relies on photographs showing:
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(5) Showing the strip drain cut it out it is alleged not to be square, the base is rough and not flat, and the sides are not vertical. But there is no independent builders (including any experts) evidence about whether or not a stainless-steel drain can be fitted.
26 The Tribunal has listened to the evidence and arguments and read and considered Mr Curtis' many contentions and has distilled the material facts for determination of the dispute. It has considered the parties' submissions. Even in reasons of this length the Tribunal cannot sensibly summarise everything which has been argued or determine each and every dispute a fact however tangential its relevance. If the Tribunal has not mentioned a particular matter this should not be treated as that matter having been overlooked. The Tribunal has taken into account everything that was before it and has distilled those matters into these reasons only such as is necessary for the parties to understand what the Tribunal has decided and why.
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27 The Tribunal finds there is a breach of ACL s 60, and the remedy is damages ACL s 236, determined as follows:
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(7) The Tribunal is not persuaded that the cut out for the strip drain is defective as alleged in the absence of expert evidence. This claim fails.
Ground 3 (also referred to as ground 4) Rejection of electrical claim for $1,067.00
7 Mr Curtis contends for the following alleged breaches: ...
(3) Electrical work to investigate and repair short circuit following removal of fountain and water pump $1,067;
8 GRC contends: ...
(5) GRC disputes it was to supply electrical work to disconnect a pump from the fountain as this was to be arranged by Mr Curtis, and the cost of the electrical work is to Mr Curtis' account; ...
16 Of this Work only items 1, 3 are in dispute. In addition, GRC was to remove a fountain which had an electrical pump. The plumbing and electrical work was to be organised by Mr Cutrtis as evidenced by a text of 2/6/23 in which Mr Curtis relevantly stated:
... Hi Guan, plumber and electrician will be out Monday...
27 The Tribunal finds there is a breach of ACL s60, and the remedy is in damages ACL s236, determined as follows: ...
(6) The claim for the electrical work fails as this work was to be arranged by Mr Curtis, and in any case, many of the items in the Rooklyn Electrical Tax Invoice 0673 dated 25/2/23 relate to other work, eg the faulty extension board in the back bedroom. This claim fails.
(1) an attendance to test for a power outage and being informed of water damage in a back bedroom and power tripping off when an extension board was used;
(2) an attendance for "fault finding" including in respect of a junction box in the rear garden, searching all junction boxes under the house, testing all outside power points and replacing a broke power point; and
(3) an attendance to dig through the back yard to locate buried junctions at which time a single junction box was located between "post and fountain location", disconnected and removed, repairing a junction box in the back yard.
Ground 4 (Also referred to as Ground 5) Rubbish removal.
7 Mr Curtis contends for the following alleged breaches:
(1) Rubbish not removed, some removed by Mr Curtis with other items in a skip hired by him, in mitigation and a door which is still on site. The estimated cost of removing the rubbish is $150;
8 GRC contends:
(3) GRC concedes $170 to remove rubbish, including
GM: Anyway, I'm thinking $150 all up for rubbish removal. Agree or disagree?
Curtis: I think I'll have to agree.
Solicitor [for respondent]: We're happy to consent
Ground 5 (also referred to as ground 6) Shower seals
(1) The application states "REPLACE SHOWER SCREENS - SEALS DO NOT WORK 11. Promised as part of the quote"
(2) This item is not identified at paragraph [7] of the Decision where the breaches contended for by the appellant are identified, nor paragraph [8] where the respondent's contentions is respect of each item are identified.
(3) The Decision otherwise states:
(a) At paragraph [15] under the heading material facts, the Decision states:
15 By an email on 18/6/22 Mr Curtis accepted part of the quote to do the following work, relevantly:
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8 Main bathroom has leaking under shower panel. seems to have been happening for a while and minor damage to the vanity base. Nees sealing or something to stop water leaving shower base. Same room has water marks on the ceiling. Not sure if new or old stains. Please check next visit.
9 The minor jobs, drawers, shower seal, wardrobe door etc. please try to do these soon so tenant can see some quick progress.
Of this Work only items 1, 3 are in dispute. In addition, GRC was to remove a fountain which had an electrical pump. ....
Mr Curtis did not obtain any report from a person with relevant knowledge (even if not an expert report) as he was concerned about the cost and whether or not he will be able to recover any cost. Instead, he largely relies on his own assertions although he says he has some experience as an owner builder....
The Tribunal has listened to the evidence and arguments and read and considered Mr Curtis' many contentions and has distilled the material facts for determination of the dispute. It has considered the parties' submissions. Even in reasons of this length the Tribunal cannot sensibly summarise everything which has been argued or determine each and every dispute a fact however tangential its relevance. If the Tribunal has not mentioned a particular matter this should not be treated as that matter having been overlooked. The Tribunal has taken into account everything that was before it and has distilled those matters into these reasons only such as is necessary for the parties to understand what the Tribunal has decided and why.
(4) None of the photos referred to at [19] as also having been relied on by the appellant include any showers.
(5) The transcript extract (AB 133) records a reference to item 8 on the appellant's email at (AB 27) which states
Main bathroom has leaking under shower panel. seems to have been happening for a while and minor damage to the vanity base. Nees sealing or something to stop water leaving shower base. Same room has water marks on the ceiling. Not sure if new or old stains. Please check next visit.
(6) We were not provided with any other transcript extract which included any discussion of this item, including whether any payment was to be made for the work and if so, whether it was made, if work was performed whether it was defective and the cost to rectify it, or the quotes the appellant refers to at (AB 53 and 55).
(7) The appellant refers to a quote from Friendly Plumbing dated 23 September 2024 (at AB p 53) for $1,263.90 which is the amount the appellant says should be ordered to be paid, and Constantly Plumbing Py Ltd dated 27 Sep 2024 (at AB p 55) for $1,061.50.
(8) Both quotes relied on by the appellant appear to refer to work in three bathrooms and include work that cannot be clearly correlated with what is identified at 8 and 9 of the email at (AB 27).
Ground 7: refund Account credit - overlooked claim - $1927.50.
Application for leave to amend primary claim (AB - Section E p 135)
(1) To the extent required, leave to appeal is granted.
(2) The appeal is allowed so as to increase the amount payable by the respondent to the applicant by $150.00 for "rubbish removal", being "Ground 4" in addendum 2 to the Notice of Appeal.
(3) Order 4 made 18 March 2025 is varied from $2,270.00 to $2,420.00, on the basis that the balance due to the appellant is to be paid within 7 days.
(4) Save as provided above, leave to appeal is refused and the appeal is dismissed.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
Curtis
GRC Property Maintenance Pty Ltd [2025] NSWCATAP 316;
(2003) 214 CLR 1