Chronology of events
71 Turning to the chronology of events.
72 On 11 November 2012, Anglicare advertised a Financial Counsellor position. The advertisement stated:
Financial Counsellor
Full-time
Wagga NSW
We are seeking to employ a Financial Counsellor to assist the people of the Lower South Western Region to better manage their debt by providing confidential counselling, proactive education and mentoring. Successful applicants will be suitably qualified with financial counselling or other relevant tertiary qualifications.
In addition they will have full accreditation membership with FCAN, or have commenced training with intent to seek accreditation along with the knowledge of the relevant Acts, legislation, code and standards governing charity organisations and financial services.
73 The advertisement made clear that accreditation with FCAN was not the only criteria, but rather that was in addition to "be[ing] suitably qualified with financial counselling or other relevant tertiary qualifications" and that an applicant must have "knowledge of the relevant Acts, legislation, code and standards governing charity organisations and financial services".
74 On 20 November 2012, Mr Crossing applied for the position. Mr Crossing's application included a cover letter, resume, application form, and statutory declaration.
75 Relevantly for present purposes, the cover letter contained the following:
I am currently completing the FCAN Financial Counselling Course which is due for completion at the end of November, 2012. In addition to this I worked as a financial counsellor at Wesley Central Mission for approximately two years, in both a voluntary and paid work capacity. This role has given me strong insight and practical experience into what a Financial Counsellor does.
76 In the resume, relevantly was the following:
FURTHER EDUCATION
2012 - FCAN Financial Counselling Course - Due for completion November 2012
2011-12 TAFE Certificate Level IV in Mental Health Current
2002-03 TAFE Certificate Level II & Level III Information Technology
1998-1993 Bachelor of Information Technology (Information Systems) Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga NSW
77 As will become apparent in these reasons, during the events of his employment in 2013, Mr Crossing sought to rely on his involvement with Wesley Mission as qualifying him for the Financial Counsellor position at Anglicare. The information on that topic in his application and resume was this:
Ability and experience working with clients to assist them achieve financial independence.
As previously mentioned, I have worked voluntarily as a Financial Counsellor at Wesley Central Mission where I assisted clients of various backgrounds in restructuring their finances. This involved encouraging open communication and relationships with clients and determining what their financial needs and goals were, as well as finding the best way to achieve them. I was regularly involved in negotiating with external organisations, sourcing financial information and researching available services. It also involved offering a support base to clients and encourages them to work towards financial security. The focus was always on the client and gaining their trust through my professional attitude, genuine interest and maintaining their privacy.
78 And in his resume:
VOLUNTARY WORK
1982 1984 Financial Counselling Wesley Central Mission, Sydney
Financial counselling on a voluntary and paid basis, Involved in training courses, case work, writing reports, negotiating with creditors and follow up work with clients
79 In the applicant's application form, he answered "no" to the question "[d]o you have any physical and/or mental condition(s) that may inhibit performance of your duties or affect your ability to work safely?" In his statutory declaration which accompanied his job application, he also answered "no" to the question "[d]o you suffer from any physical or mental conditions that may affect your ability to perform the normal duties of your position?"
80 Pausing there, the applicant accepted in his written submission that his evidence was that he held no official qualifications in financial counselling.
81 Mr Crossing was interviewed for the position in November 2012. Although it is unclear as to the date of that interview, it must have been sometime after 20 November 2012. Again, although the exact date is unclear, in November 2012 Mr Crossing became aware that he had failed an assessment for his FCAN course. Successfully completing this assessment was necessary to pass the course. Leaving aside for the moment the applicant's explanation that he had three attempts to do the assessment, to which I will return to later, I am satisfied on the evidence that in November 2012 the applicant was in a dispute with FCAN about the course. He was in that dispute as a result of the failure of the assessment. Attached to an email of 13 February 2013 which Mr Crossing wrote to Mr Addison, is a document in which he states his complaint with FCAN started in November 2012. This included, inter alia, that he claimed his assignment had been incorrectly marked.
82 The applicant's issues with FCAN and his failure of the assessment were unknown by Anglicare at this time in 2012.
83 Mr Crossing was offered the position in 2012, although there is no evidence as to the date when this occurred.
84 The applicant signed his contract of employment with Anglicare on 18 December 2012, to start employment on 7 January 2013. Mr Crossing ultimately accepted that he knew by the time he signed the contract that, contrary to what he had said in his application for the position, he had not completed the FCAN course in November 2012. The applicant also accepted that he did not inform Anglicare before or at the time he signed his employment contract that he had failed an assessment and had not completed the course. He provided reasons why he said he did not need to inform Anglicare, which are addressed below at [184]. Nonetheless, Anglicare were not informed of the position at that stage. Suffice to say at this stage, I find that the applicant did not inform Anglicare because he did not want to jeopardise his offer of employment.
85 Mr Crossing was also provided with a position description document, which relevantly states as an essential criteria, inter alia, that the applicant is "[e]ligible for full accreditation membership with FCAN". As explained below at [140], although Mr Crossing gave evidence he was not provided with such a document, I accept Mr Addison's evidence on this topic. In any event, even if the position description document was not provided to Mr Crossing as he asserts, I take him to have been aware at the relevant time of the criteria for the Financial Counsellor role with Anglicare given that the criteria were clearly stated on the job advertisement recited above at [72].
86 Mr Crossing commenced employment with Anglicare on 7 January 2013.
87 In January 2013, Mr Crossing submitted a complaint to the Australian Skills Quality Authority (ASQA), the national regulator for Australia's vocational education and training sector, in relation to FCAN's assessment of his performance during the course.
88 On 8 February 2013, Mr Crossing advised Mr Addison by email in the following terms:
Brad,
Possible issue has arisen that you need to be informed about. All will be revealed. If you can slot in 2 hours next week it would be appreciated.
Just email a time and I will work around you.
Richard Crossing
Financial Counsellor
89 On or about 11 February 2013, Mr Addison met with Mr Crossing, at which time the applicant informed him that he had not passed an assessment that was required for him to complete the FCAN Financial Counselling Course. This was the first time the applicant had notified Anglicare of this. Mr Crossing informed Mr Addison that he had not accepted FCAN's offer to remark the assessment task because FCAN had said that the remark would be final and he would not be allowed to complete the course if he did not pass that reassessment task. Mr Crossing said he had decided to appeal the result of his assessment to ASQA. Mr Crossing said he was confident the situation would be resolved and he would receive his accreditation as a financial counsellor. Mr Addison asked Mr Crossing to keep him updated.
90 On 11 February 2013, Ross Butler, Chief Executive Officer of FCAN, wrote to Mr Crossing advising that FCAN would not be issuing him a statement of attainment for the FCAN Financial Counselling Course and that his "Student in Training" membership of FCAN had been withdrawn:
Dear Mr Crossing,
RE: Student in Training Membership of FCAN
As part of FCAN's Internal Processes, it is necessary to regularly review FCAN membership to confirm members continue to be eligible for their class of membership.
In the By-Laws of FCAN's Constitution, one of the "Eligibility" criteria to be a Student in Training Member of FCAN is stated as follows:
"Students currently undertaking an approved and accredited Financial Counsellors' Training Course and other compulsory components of the training requirements."
In recent emails, it was indicated that FCAN would not be issuing you a Statement of Attainment for the FCAN Financial Counselling Courses which you attended from August to November, 2012. Therefore, in recognition with FCAN's Constitution By-Laws, you are no longer eligible for Student in Training membership of FCAN. Accordingly, it has been decided to withdraw your Student in Training Membership of FCAN.
Should you re-commence your financial counselling studies with an accredited training organisation you will be eligible again to apply for membership.
Yours Sincerely
Ross Butler Chief Executive Officer Financial Counsellors' Association of NSW
91 Pausing there, it is plain from that correspondence that there had been earlier email communication between Mr Crossing and FCAN in which he was notified that FCAN would not be issuing him a certificate in relation to the course. It can be inferred that Mr Crossing had been aware of the precarious nature of his position with FCAN for some time.
92 Following Mr Crossing's meeting with Mr Addison, he sent Mr Addison an email in the following terms:
Brad,
…
I am happy to do what it takes to qualify. This is said without qualification.
I would like if possible details of how to do this from FCAN.
I just do not know how to do this with a trainer that appears biased although I am willing to eat humble pie.
Because of the issues before ASQA and the distance involved is an accommodation possible? We do have qualified people in the area that could assess the subjects that involve face to face contact and skilled and qualified financial and personal counsellors can be found.
Brad I trust you skills in this area and greatly appreciate your guidance and assistance and am happy for you to compose an email from the Anglicare perspective as this may greatly assist.
Richard Crossing Financial Counsellor
93 On 13 February 2013, Mr Addison received an email from Mr Crossing about his issues with FCAN, which attached a draft letter which the applicant proposed Mr Addison send to FCAN. The email is set out below:
Hi Brad,
I am torn between a desperate need to tell FCAN to take what they want and a self-preservation mode that has experienced an attack and is very cautious. If I was in your position my main concern would be how we arrived at this position and I have no answer other than I feel under attack and have no idea why?
I have no wish to involve you in this issue and am doing so for two reasons.
1) To achieve the position and responsibility you have at your age you must have wisdom and I certainly can do with some and an objective view point.
2) There is an Anglicare vested interest in this and in this area the buck stops with you.
3) The third of the two reasons is I think you are a fair person, and
4) The next of the two reasons is you could not do a worse job than me.
I am not asking you to take over the case or take sides just give me some of that wisdom.
God bless
Richard Crossing Financial Counsellor
94 The draft letter was as follows:
Hello Ross and Adrian,
I have received your last letter and feel that there is a misunderstanding. What l conveyed was that I had not asked for a remark by Betty Yule as you had indicated. As a student I was following the complaint path for lodging a complaint as indicated in the student handbook. While I did not object to you using whatever recourse to assess my work in the first instance the next clear step along the complaints procedure (according to the student handbook) was to have a committee look at the work. I had put the option to have a committee remark the work as the next step in the process and was intending to apply for this following a response from ASQA. From reading the FCAN guidelines it indicates I had two years to complete all elements of training. You indicated I had said I wished for a remark and you were complying with my request which I felt was incorrect. I do not know where I made any such request.
I also disagreed with another issue. Originally you asked to put forward all assessment items that were an issue to be remarked and when I agreed to this you changed that to -> we will only assess a few items. This is not what I had agreed to.
I would be happy for a person at either the Orange TAFE or the Lifeline Community Care in Queensland or Anglicare Tasmania doing an objective look at the assessments that you outlined. All these organisations offer qualified trainers and assessors in Financial Counselling. They would hopefully offer feedback and in the case of most assessment an opportunity to address the issues. I would be happy to contact one of these organisations and suggest a specific person if required.
Your letter indicated I had not agreed to the original idea. This was due to the fact when you changed the terms of the agreement substantially and stated I agreed to terms that I had not agreed to I became frustrated. The idea that I am not willingly and actively looking at how to progress to a completion of the training is false.
You indicated for the assessable items not remarked to be redone by me in Sydney as if I had failed these assessments. The trainer there is the same trainer I allege was unfairly marking me and is the subject of the complaint. For these items I am asking for an accommodation due to the circumstances. The circumstances being the harassment complaint and 1100klm's distance issues.
• One assessment was a 30 minute practical session with a client.
• One assessment I was told I needed a practical monitored session with a Creditor. The original assessment was with three creditors although I was informed one sit in was enough.
As these were both role-play scenarios I would be happy to do these and would commit to do these in front of an Anglicare qualified Financial Counsellor with 15 years experience to observe and report the outcome to FCAN.
While I believe I should not have failed these items I am willing to do the extra work to redo the assessments in order to hasten the process.
If what you are after is me agreeing to a remark as stated in your previous email I am happy as long as it is done independently to FCAN which would be appropriate. Betty Yule while a remarkable lady was a team member on the training course and has been a founding member of FCAN so would appear not to be the best choice.
We are still waiting to work on the recognition of Counselling skills and I believe you are looking at options.
While I agree that this is a step forward I still believe that the original complaint needs to be dealt with and ASQA should offer an independent view of the issues complained about. It would be good to progress while this is happening.
As already discussed this puts me in the position to have to redo work when I may be the victim and we may need to work through this area.
As you have indicated (through the advice you have given) the complaints procedure had and appears to be in a state of change. I really would appreciate an updated procedure to follow as far as FCAN is concerned which should make for a less confused exchange of information.
I have still not received the original path to complete the course or any items from FCAN since this complaint started in November and my last email reflected this frustration and the items of concern. It would be reasonable to request the documents I have asked for to achieve success in finishing the course. I believe regardless of circumstances I am entitled to all of the requested documents
I do not wish to create problems although I firmly believe receiving feedback that answers a complaint is important and feedback on errors made on assessed items essential to progress through the course.
Through my complaint process I have raised a number of specific requests that I believe are a student's normal right. I am not trying to assert special rights or ways of avoiding responsibility but a way to have a reasonable chance of assessment and progression established.
I would appreciate and welcome your response.
95 It is unclear on the evidence if this letter was sent.
96 On 15 February 2013, Mr Crossing sent an email to Mr Addison in which he stated that he "may have a way forward", and there "may be a possible solution" and would like to meet.
97 On 7 March 2013, Mr Crossing enrolled in a Diploma of Community Services (Financial Counselling) with Uniting Care Queensland due for completion on 7 March 2015. Although the applicant repeatedly referred to this as a transfer, there was no evidence of that. As at the time that he left the employment of Anglicare, he had not made any inquiries as to whether he could obtain any credit for the course work undertaken with FCAN.
98 On or about 22 March 2013, Mr Crossing met with Mr Addison, at which time he asked, inter alia, if Mr Addison could seek clarification from FCAN in relation to the status of his membership. Mr Addison gave evidence that he reminded Mr Crossing that Anglicare is obliged to engage financial counsellors who are trained and eligible for accreditation with FCAN. This is the occasion on which the applicant alleges that Mr Addison got angry with him and was speaking in aggressive terms. The applicant refers at times to the conversation occurring on 18 March 2013. Regardless of the date the conversation occurred, it is apparent that Mr Addison and Mr Crossing are talking about the same occasion. The applicant states "on or about the 18th March 2013 [Mr Addison] and I had a further conversation regarding my mental health. He stated words to the effect he thought my mental health issues were behind me and he was angry that they appeared not. I stated that I had issues with FCAN, but they were dealt with by the transfer to study interstate and my mental health was OK. I observed he was angry at the time". It is from this time that the applicant alleges that Mr Addison's attitude towards him changed. This conversation and conduct is denied by Mr Addison. Suffice to say at this stage, I do not accept the applicant's evidence as to what he says occurred during that conversation, or that Mr Addison's behaviour towards him changed thereafter. Moreover, it is not supported by the evidence of the conduct of each after this occasion. It is inconsistent with the applicant's conduct: see for example [107] (and explained in [109]). Moreover, the applicant continued to ask Mr Addison for his assistance, including after he had left Anglicare's employ. This is also in a context where the evidence reflects that the applicant was prepared to take action in circumstances in which he felt aggrieved. I prefer the evidence of Mr Addison on this topic. It is consistent with his conduct of the matter generally, and is reflected in the contemporaneous documentation (which reflects that the issue was one of qualification). I note also that Mr Vardanega gave evidence, which I accept, that Mr Addison was "personally supportive" of the applicant, and that Mr Addison did not have a "fixed idea" as to what a remedy to the situation might look like which is why he had gone to Mr Vardanega for advice: see [103]-[106] below.
99 On 25 March 2013, Mr Addison sent an email to Mr Butler asking to have a discussion about Mr Crossing:
G'day Ross,
I was wondering if we could have a fairly frank discussion about an employee of mine, Richard Crossing. Richard is employed with us as a financial counsellor, however he has made me aware of his situation with the Financial Counsellors Association of NSW. I'm keen to get FCAN's perspective before I make any decisions about Richards future employment with us.
Thanks,
Brad Addison General Manager
100 On or about 27 March 2013, Mr Addison had a telephone conversation with Mr Butler about Mr Crossing. Mr Butler advised Mr Addison that FCAN had withdrawn Mr Crossing's status as a student member on 11 February 2013. Mr Butler sent Mr Addison a copy of the letter that FCAN sent to Mr Crossing on 11 February 2013 withdrawing his student membership.
101 On the same day, Mr Crossing sent an email to Mr Addison providing an update on his issue with FCAN (emphasis in original):
Brad,
Carol and Richard are both awaiting membership notification of approval from FCAN. We as an Agency need the:
• Supervision Policies of FCAN
• Professional Development Requirements of FCAN
These can be obtained with confirmation of membership or from an agency request.
To maintain membership these details need to be completed through the year and need to be produced at the end of the year. These need to be organised now so these requirements can be met.
Richard's email sent on 7th March 2013 (Attached) with proof of enrolment in the Diploma Course. FCAN response is no reply. This may be normal as there may not be any fee requirements for me.
Carols Email sent for the third time on 13th March 2013.(Attached). Carol did receive details of where to pay membership but nothing else. Evelyn has sent payment.
To avoid any problems confirmation and those policies are required.
Included in this email:
• Draft proposal by the FCA (Financial Counsellor of Australia) Peak AustralianBody. Giving the guidelines required to check regarding qualifications by an agency.
• FCAN - Membership Requirements.
• Copy of receipt of payment for Diploma for Richard.
From the Peak Australian Body the FCA giving proposed agency guidelines ( to be used Australia wide and awaiting final approval)
These proposed guidelines indicate that it is only required that agencies check if a Financial Counsellor "is a member of FCA body or is eligible to be a member" and has the knowledge to do the work. FCA being the NSW State body. Hence I have included the eligibility for FCAN membership.
102 On 28 March 2013, Mr Butler sent an email to Mr Addison as follows:
Dear Brad,
Further to our conversation yesterday in relation to Mr. R. Crossing, I confirm the following:
• Mr. R. Crossing attended FCAN Financial Counselling training course during the second half of 2012. Mr. Crossing did not successfully complete the requirements of that course and therefore was not issued with a Certificate of Attainment for the course;
• Furthermore, which I did not mention in our conversation, Mr. Crossing has not completed the Basic Counselling course which is an essential requirement for membership of FCAN. Under normal circumstances, FCAN conducts a Basic Counselling course (5 days) before the Financial Counselling course (20 days), both being the entry qualifications for membership of FCAN. Mr. Crossing indicated that he had previously attended other training equivalent to our Basic Counselling course and therefore it was his intention to satisfy the requirements of the Basic Counselling course through the process of recognised prior learning (RPL). Mr. Crossing did not submit to FCAN any evidence or commence the RPL process to enable him to obtain recognition for the training which he had previously attended;
• On 11th February, 2013, we wrote to Mr. Crossing, advising him that we had withdrawn his student in training membership with FCAN, which had been granted to him at the time that he commenced his studies with FCAN. This withdrawal of membership was due to the fact that Mr. Crossing no longer fulfilled one of the "Eligibility" criteria for student in training membership of FCAN: "Students currently undertaking an approved and accredited Financial Counsellors' Training Course and other compulsory components of the training requirements';
• On 9th March, 2013, Mr. Crossing emailed FCAN to advise that he had enrolled in the Diploma of Community Services (Financial Counselling) being delivered by Uniting Care Community Registered Training Organisation. Mr. Crossing requested that he be considered for student in training membership of FCAN.
• While Mr. Crossing will be eligible to again become a student in training member of FCAN, it is not possible for him to practise as a financial counsellor as a student in training member. It is required that students in training are in a situation where they are able to observe suitably qualified other financial counsellors who are members of FCAN, and to have access to an accredited FCAN supervisor with whom to have regular supervision. Apart from FCAN's requirements relating to qualifications for financial counsellors, there is the important matter of the ASIC "exemption", which provides relief from licensing for financial counsellors provided the financial counsellors are appropriately trained and members of the local financial counselling association;
• As mentioned, Mr. Crossing submitted a complaint to the Australian Skills Quality Authority (ASQA) in January 2012 in relation to our assessment of his performance during the Financial Counselling training course he attended. ASQA is the regulatory body responsible for registered training organisations such as FCAN. ASQA has recently advised FCAN that the Authority has not substantiated Mr. Crossing's complaint.
103 On or about 2 April 2013, Mr Addison informed Mr Vardanega, Manager of Reportable Conduct and Policy at Anglicare, that the applicant had not completed his FCAN Financial Counselling Course. Mr Addison asked for advice in relation to what action he should take. Mr Vardanega suggested to Mr Addison that he meet with Mr Crossing formally and also put in writing a request for an explanation as to the circumstances of his failure of the FCAN Financial Counselling Course and how he intended to meet the requirement to be trained and eligible for membership with FCAN. On 4 April 2013, Mr Addison forwarded to Mr Vardanega the email he had received from Mr Butler on 28 March 2013. He asked Mr Vardanega to draft the letter he suggested be sent to Mr Crossing:
Hi Luke,
Regarding our Financial Councillor who started in late December (from memory). This is the email that resulted from a discussion I had with Ross from FCAN.
If you are happy to draft up something for me to use, that would be great.
Thanks,
Brad Addison
General Manager
104 Mr Vardanega did so, sending an email to Mr Addison that day, in which he set out some draft wording for the letter to Mr Crossing.
Dear Richard,
As you are aware, your employment with Anglicare was contingent upon you satisfactorily completing and being recognised as meeting the training and other eligibility criteria for membership of the Financial Counsellors' Association of NSW. I understand that there is now a question mark over whether you currently meet these requirements or will be in a position to do so within a reasonable period of time. Within the next fourteen days, I require an explanation from you as to your current eligibility to continue in employment with Anglicare including what is occurring or proposed to occur in relation to the above. This is obviously a serious issue as it relates to your continuing employment with Anglicare. Please let me know if you require any assistance from Anglicare in terms of progressing a resolution.
Regards,
Brad Addison
105 On or about 10 April 2013, Mr Addison met with Mr Crossing. At the meeting, Mr Crossing, inter alia, challenged Anglicare's interpretation of the Funding Agreement and FCSP Guidelines and said that the word "accredited" was open to interpretation. Mr Addison handed Mr Crossing a letter in the terms drafted by Mr Vardanega.
106 Later that day, Mr Addison reported to Mr Vardanega what had occurred at the meeting:
Luke,
As per our discussion, I've had a talk to Richard and have given him the attached letter.
He was understanding, but tried to talk around a whole lot of other issues. He thinks FCAN are targeting him personally and he think that he can find a clause in our funding contract that will enable us to maintain his employment. I've explained clearly that he has 14 days to provide evidence of his eligibility to become accredited with FCAN or further action will be taken regarding his employment with Anglicare.
I'll talk to both you and Simon more about this next week, but need you to both keep in mind that I will be on leave from the end of the week for three weeks, so we will likely have to give him notification of termination while I'm on leave. I'll quietly make arrangements with Evelyn and have an ad ready to run while I'm away and set up an interview date for just after I return.
Thanks,
Brad Addison
General Manager
107 On 11 April 2013, Mr Crossing sent Mr Addison the following letter:
Dear Brad,
Firstly I would like to say that I appreciate the support of Anglicare as an organisation and you personally as the General Manager, Evelyn as my Manager and Carol who has been acting as a Supervisor to me during this period, not as a work Supervisory but as a skills supervisor that every Financial Counsellor has.
Yesterday the 10/4/2013 you handed me a formal letter asking me to explain whether I meet the requirements for FCAN membership and whether I would complete the course in a satisfactory time.
In answer to this question, I believe that I do meet the FCAN requirements for membership. I am now actively studying to complete the Diploma of Financial Counselling which is a nationally recognised training qualification that provides a clear path to gaining FCAN accredited membership. This in no way varies on the understanding or conditions under which I was employed. I have already provided you with proof of my enrolment.
I am actively seeking to gain accreditation with FCAN as a Student in Training member. I brought to your attention issues and problems that I have been encountering in completing the FCAN course at the first opportunity. I have since commenced the Diploma course as a backup should I not succeed in appealing the FCAN's decision. This appeal is currently before ASQA. This appeals process is long and complication, hence the need for a backup plan. While changing the way to gain FCAN accreditation the amount of time to get the accreditation should not change, nor has my eligibility to gain membership status changed with FCAN since my employment. As a person doing a recognised training program whether that program is through FCAN or another RTO you are still recognised to be eligible for the same Student in Training membership. http://www.fcan.com.au/?p=3
To be accredited an FCAN Student member is required to complete one year of supervision with either an accredited Financial Counsellor or experienced supervisor. During this time it is appropriate to accept clients under appropriate supervision. The student can stay at this level of Student in Training for up to 2 years while being supervised by an accredited Financial Counsellor. The FCAN Supervision Policy states that a great level of supervision is required for students as their level of expertise increases so the level of supervision can be reduced.
When I was employed by Anglicare it was clearly stated in the job advertisement and during the interview that you either had accreditation or had commenced training and are seeking the qualification. At the interview I indicated my qualifications truthfully and at what stage of progression towards accreditation I had achieved. The actual stage I was at was just completing the attendance at the FCAN course.. To gain accredited membership with FCAN would take any student one year even after the student had passed every element of the FCAN course this is because of the year's supervision requirement. As I am currently receiving this supervision now it still allows me a year to achieve the study required and the accreditation would be achieved at the same time as if there was no FCAN problem.
As explained to you the FCAN situation was an unexpected attack. I felt and believe I have evidence that their assessment of my work was seriously [flawed]. While I was a few questions away from completing the course they terminated the course for me. As expressed to you the situation was serious enough to indicate that my intention was to take legal action against them. I did lodge a formal complaint which led to FCAN saying that I "had no way to complete the course". This was despite FCAN indicating to me prior to this that there was clear way to complete the course. This to me was victimisation for instigating a complaint. My current appeal is still with ASQA and this is going slowly through an appeals process - I also have recourse to the Ombudsman and Department of Fair Trading, although it is a painfully slow process.
Under the FCAN membership categories FCAN states that previous accredited members have a clear path to gain accreditation by establishing their currency of knowledge, if this could be done fairly it may be a very quick way to gain accreditation. The emphasis is on whether this option could be fairly done given the FCAN history. The reason I would be eligible would be because I previously trained and practised as a Financial Counsellor with Wesley Central Mission's Credit Line.
I have written to FCAN who have not responded to my request to clarify my membership situation, although I have expressed my desire to pay the membership fee if necessary. Their delayed response is beyond my control although their membership requirements are clearly available on the internet and I do meet these requirements. I spoke to you and assume you are still following this issue up to verify my membership. The only doubt is if I am paid up and I have asked them to clarify this point because at the FCAN course we were told that student membership was free and without cost for membership. Another area you were chasing up with FCAN was [their] current supervision policy and professional development requirements. As members both Carol and I have received no information regarding our membership.
While the appeal process with ASQA was underway FCAN notified me that a Statement of Attainment was not possible despite the fact that an appeal was in progress with ASQA and FCAN knew about this appeal. This is incorrect or denies a student's right to complain about an issue with some prospect of a complaint being upheld. They also indicated that due to this my Student in Training right was taken away? This seems incorrect. I have provided evidence to FCAN that I am continuing study with another training body which despite problems with FCAN make me eligible for membership.
I would love to say that these issues had no effect on me and that there were no issues involved, sadly this would not be correct. Under my employment contract I am instructed to be honest and upfront and seek assistance and I believe in this issue I am asking for assistance.
When I started my employment with Anglicare I was hoping to avoid giving too much information regarding my medical history involving Mental Health issues due to privacy and stigma concerns. I was determine[d] to secure my position on my own merit. When I was applying for this position and during the recently completed probationary period I had been advised by my employment case worked to have their agency act as a support person for me in the work place and work with the employer should issues arise as I do have a past history of Mental Health disability?
At no stage did I indicate any untruth at the interview at which time I explained that I had a breakdown many years ago and felt there was no current impediment to me working and I have been working very hard over the last years to get back in the workforce. I believe my belief in my ability to perform the position despite my past was shown in the appraisal you gave me yesterday that the only issue you have with my performance was the FCAN issue. Carol, with multiple years of experience as an accredited Financial Counsellor and deeply involved in every case I have dealt with and with whom I have worked with on a daily basis indicates that she is completely happy with my work and considered me a professional Financial Counsellor.
My Mental Health issues seem in the past to be triggered by uncontrollable stressful situations arising and not dealing with them appropriately. The FCAN situation and the wider implications of FCAN's actions are creating a great deal of tangible stress and anxiety and I wish to deal with it appropriately hence why I am asking for support. To me there is no question - my health must come before the job. Without good health being an effective team member would also be impossible.
My request here is that you do consider my past disability and allow a support person from Sureway Services to be involved with my work situation in an effort to avoid problems. As you indicated this area may be a problem it would be good to start here. I believe that they may offer financial and other assistance in ensuring this work situation succeeds.
I have in the past suffered for not asking for help. Currently I am dealing with Paul the Manager of Sureway Employment who is handling my case and would welcome meeting together at your convenience to discuss how to proceed. Paul assures me he knows you and will be endeavouring to make contact.
If there are specific issues that affect my employment left unresolved I am happy to provide clarification as there are 14 days to clear up confusion and personal meeting(s) may achieve great success and I will be available for such meeting(s) at your convenience. This may include how we meet our funding obligations to the Department of Fair Trading and possible impacts to the service of this issue.
Even if this letter clears up the FCAN confusion I believe the involvement of a support specialist may reap rewards and I welcome it. They may be able to offer resources to help the accreditation process occur faster and my ability to provide a better service. My intention is to work in a professional open manner and my desire is to offer all I have in an effort to achieve the desired objectives of Anglicare and I will work with all parties to this end.
Thank you again for your support.
Kind regards,
Richard Crossing
108 While on the letter of 11 April 2013, it is appropriate to make a number of other observations.
109 First, the letter commences by Mr Crossing recording how much he appreciates the support of Anglicare and Mr Addison personally. This does not sit with his allegations of the conduct of Mr Addison, in respect to the conversation of 22 March 2013, referred to above at [98]. I do not accept the applicant's evidence that in the first sentence of this letter he was trying to smooth over what occurred on that previous occasion to work forward. Nor do I accept the explanation for the statement advanced in his written submission (of which there is no evidence) that "it is possible [he] was brought up to be respectful towards persons in authority". The evidence reflects that the applicant had no hesitation in advancing his position if he perceives he has been treated unfairly. Second, he stated that he is "now actively studying to complete the Diploma of Financial Counselling", being the Queensland course. The evidence was that he had enrolled, but by the time his employment was terminated, there was no evidence he had commenced any study. Third, he stated that this approach in "no way varies on the understanding and condition on which [he] was employed". Plainly, as explained below at [138], this ignores that he was employed on the basis that he would imminently complete his FCAN course. Enrolling in another course which he had not yet commenced, in the context of not having completed the FCAN course (because he had not passed an assessment) is self-evidently a different position from that on which he was employed. Fourth, Mr Crossing wrote that he brought to Mr Addison's attention "issues and problems that [he had] been encountering with completing the FCAN course at the first opportunity". As explained below at [180]-[187], I do not accept that description of the events. Fifth, Mr Crossing stated that while enrolling in the new course changes the way he would gain accreditation, the amount of time it would take to gain accreditation should not change. For the reason just given, that cannot be correct. That the applicant appears in this context to refer to a supervision requirement, does not diminish the fact that he was required to complete a course of training. He had not commenced the new course, and the information provided to the applicant (and Anglicare) was that the expected completion date of the course (at a part time study timeframe) was 7 March 2015. That is vastly different from already having completed a course, which was Anglicare's understanding. Sixth, Mr Crossing states in respect to his mental health that when he started his employment he was hoping to avoid giving too much information about his medical history for privacy and stigma concerns. The inference is that whatever was said, even on his own account, was limited. Finally, he states that the FCAN situation and FCAN's actions were causing him stress. The evidence is he had been in dispute with FCAN since November 2012 and had made complaints before he had commenced employment with Anglicare. This letter of 11 April 2013 details his complaints with FCAN and the actions he had taken, in relation to the course he had not completed.
110 On 14 April 2013, Mr Addison sent an email in response, as follows:
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the response. I want to offer you whatever support I can through this time, but have to stress again that this is not about performance or lack of. It is simply a case that we must employ someone who has been trained as a financial counsellor and accredited as a full member (not as a student - FCAN state categorically that a student member may not practice as a counsellor) of FCAN. When interviewed, we were under the impression that you were finishing off the last subject and would then be a fully fledged and accredited financial councillor.
I'm happy to meet with you in the next couple of days to discuss this further.
Brad Addison
General Manager
111 On or about 16 April 2013, Mr Addison met with Mr Crossing where he again challenged Anglicare's interpretation of the Funding Agreement and FCSP Guidelines, and said, inter alia, he was in the process of having his student membership with FCAN reinstated. Following the meeting, Mr Crossing sent Mr Addison an email in which he set out a number of options for him to resolve his issue with FCAN:
Brad,
Brad you said to put down some options:
1). http://www.fcan.com.au/?p=3
Affiliate Members
Eligibility:
Non practicing Financial Counsellor.
Financial Counsellor between positions who want to remain eligible to attend meetings and update training.
Long serving members who want to remain affiliated and may assist with expertise or time, and wish to continue to be involved.
Organisations or other States and Territories who want to be affiliated with FCAN.
Members living overseas for an extended period
Members unable to fulfil requirements for other categories e.g. due to illness.
Payment of a subscription as set by the FCAN Executive Committee.
Note: Non-practicing members who want to return to Accredited status, need to complete a proficiency test and/or complete extensive updates of training to bring skills and knowledge to the required level.
2). Complaint still with ASQA if found in favour they could lose ability to be accredited if they fail to do something.
3). Complaint with Ombudsman will be lodged tonight same as above different appeal..
4). I can take FCAN to court immediately to Fair Trading for FCAN breaching their contract with me as a student - a resolution would be as soon as Administrative Appeals Tribunal can hear the matter
5). Clarification of eligibility under Fair Trading Option - I understand Anglicares position although I do disagree with this position.
Directly to Fair Trading and funding bodies as an individual. And seek independent advice
6). Allow Paul (Sureway to have input and ideas - Have you arranged a meeting time?
7). Short training session as offered in Northern Area of NSW to get enough qualifications to practice at least talk to these people.
8). Direct representation to Fair Trading to indicate problems with FCAN
All of these options could lead to a quick solution if allowed time and with your holidays this does not leave us a reasonable time to consider how we can work together.
Or as mentioned a period of absence to be discussed as a last resort.
God bless,
Richard Crossing
Financial Counsellor
112 On or about 18 April 2013, Mr Addison met with Mr Crossing and Mr Paul Snudden, a representative from SureWay Employment and Training. The meeting was held at Mr Crossing's request, and Mr Snudden was present at his request. Mr Addison gave evidence that the applicant asked Mr Snudden if he had any solutions to his issue with FCAN, to which Mr Snudden said that he had looked into possible solutions but had not found any given the applicant did not hold the qualifications required to be a Financial Counsellor. Mr Addison's evidence was that Mr Snudden suggested to the applicant that if he accepted that he was not qualified, Anglicare might support him in the future once he was able to achieve accreditation. The applicant handed Mr Addison a medical certificate stating he was unfit to attend work for the next three weeks. Mr Addison informed Mr Crossing that he was going on annual leave and that Mr Vardanega should be his point of contact with Anglicare while he was away.
113 There appears to be a document which the applicant handed to Mr Addison at the meeting of 18 April 2013, which was in the following terms:
Proposed possible solution:
Relied on Facts
It would be unethical for Richard to practise leaving Anglicare and Richard himself liable if this was the case.
Richard is not just making up his stated condition and has a medical report requiring three weeks off work as of today and a past history of compensation cases related to this issue which Anglicare is aware of and were disclosed on employment. Anglicare are not unaware that I have a past condition that may make me vulnerable in the position we are in.
The unspoken concern of Richard -
With a mental health condition which has led to long term unemployment there is stigma and some organisations in the past have acted in a discriminatory manner to other employees while indicating that they are just obeying the rules. HR departments can see people with this condition as a legal nightmare. I have this concern and I pray it is incorrect.
Anglicare position to me is I need to show I am an "accredited member" of FCAN or we are really sorry.
My position is that there are other options and I propose one option again of many I have already proposed. Anglicare's position of not accepting any options is not logical. The answer keeps coming back to prove that I am an "accredited member" when you are asked to prove the impossible the only tool I have in my armoury is honesty and the pressure to perform the impossible.
Proposal
The quickest solution proposed in my mind which fits the circumstances is to determine in the interest of fairness if a student member of FCAN can be employed as a suitable employee.
The National Body of Financial Counsellors is giving Agencies like Anglicare clear guidelines to meet their responsibility.
FCAN members and staff are making sure this document provides good advice to the NSW Agencies. Agencies are in funding agreements and so a major concern was to make sure there was no conflict between these guidelines and Agency funding agreements. The biggest NSW funding agreement is with Fair Trading.
While this is a currently a draft document it is now in final submissions stage and all concerns if any were needed to be submitted before Feb 2013. So what should be available is a final draft document that is as current as possible on this issue and indicates clear guidelines.
This is a specific guide to make Agencies aware of their possible contractual obligations which may be open to Interpretation. Fair Trading is the biggest funding body with a vital concern in this issue as is FCAN. Most NSW Financial Counsellors operate under a Fair Trading contract and this is definitely advice to them and Anglicare on who would be eligible to work.
This proposed agency guideline was written and compiled by people with great knowledge of the specific Fair Trading contract that employs most people in NSW. FCAN employees and members look out for the NSW side of a national body and have been very active in the production of this document.
Under this guide to agencies that is current and involves all the parties it clearly indicates that FCAN Members and Students [c]ompleting the course or any course are eligible to practise.
The National Proposed Guidelines clearly indicates without confusion that being an FCAN student is not a bar to practising as Brad Addison indicates has been FCAN's absolute emphatic position
As this advice differs substantially from Anglicare's perception of what is required - in the Interest of fairness - is it not worth seeking clarification?
• If Ross Butler's stated position with Anglicare is totally opposite to the clear directions given by FCAN (of which Ross Butler is CEO) to their stated position on the same question to all agencies. Should not this position be clarified? These documents and positions are clearly available on the internet and I have shown them to Brad.
• These guidelines would indicate that Anglicare is basing its decisions on incorrect or incomplete understanding. Not just for me but all Agency's and workers need this issue clarified.
It is suggested that Anglicare:
o Write to FCAN and ask specifically if they agree with The Agency Direction Guidelines available on the internet as guidelines and how the advice we are receiving is apparently different. Specifically in relation to who is eligible to practise as a Financial Counsellor?
o Find out if Fair Trading agrees with this Guide to Agencies as a good guide to Agency's to meet their responsibilities. As an agency this will give us a clear outline to follow and meet Fair Trading requirements. As far as the guide to agencies is concerned any type of membership meets the FCAN requirements.
o Write to the national body - a further final draft was due to be put forward before all the stakeholders in Feb and was to be available before now. Find out the final draft wording. It is probably the one on the Internet now.
o As per our outline of the problem we are addressing in this meeting today-There would not be an issue if a student in my position could practise. If this is not the case we need to look for further solutions. Under medical advice I am not in a position to follow this up myself immediately.
As I appear to be the victim here someone is misleading in this situation, either the guidelines, FCAN or Anglicare and I believe fairness indicates there is enough doubt to make written enquiries.
114 I note in this document Mr Crossing expresses that he has an "unspoken concern" about discrimination because of his mental health issues that he has experienced in the past, and states he has "this concern and I pray it is incorrect". That position is inconsistent with his evidence of the conversation with Mr Addison of 22 March 2013, as referred to above at [98]. On his account, Mr Crossing's mental health issues were expressly complained about by Mr Addison on that occasion. If what Mr Crossing says had occurred in the meeting with Mr Addison on 22 March 2013, given Mr Crossing's conduct generally, it would be expected that he would have said so in this document. The omission of the conversation of 22 March 2013, if it occurred as the applicant suggests, is notable. The applicant's written submission (again of which there is no evidence) is not sufficient to explain the absence of the reference to the conversation.
115 That day, Mr Addison reported to Mr Vardanega the following:
G'day Luke,
Discussion with Richard today didn't go as well as I may have hoped for.
He is still of the opinion that it is not black and white, that we can find other ways around our funding contract that states we must employ a Financial Counsellor accredited by FCAN. He handed me the attached medical certificate and asked that Anglicare not contact him while he is on sick leave for the next three weeks.
I've said fine, I'm back one day after the end of this certificate, so suggested that we get together then and come to a resolution. This will be Monday the 13th, unless you want to take any action in the meantime.
I've spoken with Delene briefly in regard to this, as she was in Wagga on another matter today.
Brad Addison General Manager
116 On 19 April 2013, Mr Addison sent an email to Mr Butler requesting FCAN's position in relation to engaging student members of FCAN as financial counsellors, in the following terms:
Good Afternoon Ross,
Thanks for the information you have provided to date regarding the status of Richard Crossing with FCAN.
Richard is still contesting our position on his current status. Anglicare is of the opinion that under the funding guidelines provided by the Office of Fair Trading, we are obliged to engage a Financial Counsellor who is full trained and accredited by FCAN. Richard disagrees with this position and states that there are a number of organisation with similar funding who engage student members of FCAN as financial counsellors.
Richard has asked that I seek FCAN's position on this matter, I would appreciate it if you could advise me?
With thanks,
Brad Addison General Manager
117 As is plain from the face of that email, contrary to the applicant's contentions, Mr Addison is following up his request to contact FCAN.
118 Mr Butler replied on 22 April 2013 as follows:
Dear Brad,
In response to your enquiry, I would advise the following:
• My understanding is that the funding agreement which you have with the Office of Fair Trading requires that financial counsellors who provide financial counselling services are suitably qualified and accredited or eligible for accreditation with FCAN;
• The licensing relief for financial counsellors provided by ASIC required that "a financial counsellor is appropriately trained" and "a financial counsellor is a member of, or is eligible for membership of, a relevant financial counselling association".
The long-standing and ongoing interpretation of the above statements (in the context of NSW) is that membership or accreditation referred to is Associate Membership of FCAN. Also, there is another (higher) level of membership in FCAN which is referred to as 'Accredited Membership".
In FCAN's "Membership Policy & Procedure" under "4 Students in Training" it is stated: "Before commencing practice students in training must meet the requirements for Associate Membership.
Further, also in FCAN's "Membership Policy & Procedure" under "5 Associate Member" the criteria for membership are specified as: "Successful completion of an FCAN approved financial counselling training course, and an FCAN approved personal counselling course, and successful completion of observations sessions (sit ins) with a financial counsellor who has been accredited for three years".
I believe the above information clearly specifies the qualifications and experience required for a financial counsellor to be described as "suitably qualified" or "appropriately trained" as required by the Office of Fair Trading or ASIC regulations. Also, the criteria for Associate Membership of FCAN are similarly quite clear.
FCAN is not aware of other agencies who are engaging student members of FCAN as financial counsellors, and if so, such agencies would be in breach of their funding contracts and the ASIC licensing relief provisions.
I hope the above information is helpful.
Regards,
Ross Butler Chief Executive Officer Financial Counsellors' Association of NSW
119 Mr Addison forwarded that email from Mr Butler to Mr Vardanega the following day, on 23 April 2013.
120 On 15 May 2013, Mr Addison again met with Mr Crossing. Mr Addison's evidence is that the applicant had still not resolved his issue with FCAN and did not offer any new solutions. Mr Addison reported the meeting back to Mr Vardanega as follows:
Ok, just spoke to Richard. He obviously has no new information to add and is still no closer to becoming an accredited financial counsellor.
He suggested that he takes 12 months leave without pay while he seeks his accreditation and we employ someone on contract. If I saw in Richard the potential for a great employee, I'd suggest considering this option. Because I don't, I'm not.
I don't think he'll go quietly, I think he will suggest that we have an employment contract with him we are obliged to fulfil. Put simply, we advertised with 'Accreditation by FCAN, or progressing to such' as an essential criteria. Richard indicated in his application and interview that he was weeks away from becoming accredited. What he didn't tell us was that he was already at that stage engaged in a dispute with FCAN regarding an assessment and the possibility that he would not accredited.
Luke - I've let Richard know that I would talking to you again today and that you would likely be taking the next step. As I said, he's basically shuffling papers in his office, so the sooner we can take same action the better for everyone involved.
Let me know if there's anything further you need to do at this end.
Thanks,
Brad Addison General Manager
121 There was a telephone discussion between Mr Vardanega and Mr Crossing during which Mr Crossing reiterated the points made in his letter and only added that he believed that he could sue FCAN or that Anglicare could grant him an extended period of leave without pay. Mr Vardanega highlighted that the applicant had informed the selection panel during the recruitment process that he was due to complete the FCAN Financial Counselling Course in November 2012 and that the selection panel had relied upon that in making the decision to employ him. Mr Crossing admitted that all of the actions that he had proposed taking to resolve his issue with FCAN would be lengthy and unlikely to result in him achieving accreditation as a financial counsellor any time soon.
122 Later that day, Mr Vardanega made the decision to terminate Mr Crossing's employment with Anglicare. Mr Vardanega communicated that to Mr Crossing, confirming it by letter:
Dear Mr Crossing
Further to our discussion and with regret, I advise that your employment with Anglicare will be terminated as of close of business today on the grounds of unsuitability for continuing employment.
The enterprise agreement provides in these circumstances for one week's notice of termination or payment in lieu of that notice. In recognition of your service, Anglicare will provide two week's salary in lieu of notice.
In the event that you in future succeed in gaining the appropriate accreditation, Anglicare will happily consider an application for employment from you.
I thank you for your service with Anglicare and wish you all the best for the future.
Yours sincerely,
Luke Vardanega Director, People & Culture
15 May 2013
123 On the same day, Mr Vardanega sent an email to Mr Addison and Ms Mason-Waugh summarising aspects of his conversation with Mr Crossing earlier that day:
Hi guys
In my final conversation with Richard he said he'd had mental health problems as a result of the issues around his failure to achieve accreditation and said that he would pursue an "outcome involving Anglicare through mediation via the appropriate channels". I just said "okay" and then he told me that he thought the mediation would take a couple of weeks to arrange and that period would enable him to try and resolve some issues directly with the Office of Fair Trading. I just said "okay" again. Playing dumb was easy because I had no idea what he was talking about. He may be referring to a workers' compensation claim in relation to the mental health problems so thought it best to let you both know.
Cheerio, Luke
124 For completeness, I note that the applicant communicated thereafter with Mr Addison, which was not information before Anglicare at the time of the alleged adverse actions. For example, the applicant, inter alia, sent Mr Addison an email on 21 May 2013, forwarding a response he had received from NSW Fair Trading to an inquiry he had made about the level of accreditation required to work as a financial counsellor. I note as an aside that the response included that the financial counsellor be "suitably qualified and accredited". There was an exchange of communication with Mr Addison which related mainly to the issue of supervision. Mr Crossing also requested to be reinstated. Mr Addison responded, inter alia, that although this information in the email from NSW Fair Trading appeared "somewhat different" from what had already been provided to him, it did not change the position.
125 On 31 May 2013, Mr Crossing sent the following email to Mr Addison:
Brad,
I note Anglicare's position and restate that this position appears to be not on the facts stated but on a reluctance to employ me with my medical history.
I still have the work computer and I am still waiting to get together with Carol and pass on information re clients I had. As the only handover I have done was the two minute conversation to you it seems to be important that Carol should be informed of possible issues. Carol can take the computer with her afterwards.
At the time I commenced the Financial Counselling course in Queensland I spoke to Evelyn and she agreed to pay the initial costs and I enclose a invoice for this cost. If you can pass it on to Evelyn for attention it would be appreciated.
God bless,
Richard
126 On 19 July 2013, Mr Addison responded accordingly:
Evening Richard,
Apologies for not responding sooner, I've been quite busy and keep forgetting to ask Ev about this. I was in Orange yesterday for the opening of our new office and caught up with her. She recalls having conversations regarding you enrolling in the Queensland course, however she doesn't recall stating that we would pay the costs. This type of personal study is not something the agency would normally fund. Do you have any email correspondence with Evelyn to confirm this commitment?
Can I clarify if you are still holding any resources or information belonging to Anglicare?
In regards to your earlier statement suggesting our reluctance to employ you in terms of your medical history, I can state with good conscience that this is not the case. And I believe that you know this from our discussions very early on in your employment. The single reason we were not able to offer you ongoing employment was because to do so would have been in breach of our funding agreement. That was regrettable, as I did, and still do, hold you in high regard.
Brad Addison
General Manager