[2025] FWC 612
General information, not legal advice.
Fair Work Commission
2025-05-09
Original judgment source is linked above.
s.394 - Unfair dismissal
Application for an unfair dismissal remedy - serious misconduct - dismissal not unfair - application dismissed
CC: Mark, it's Chris, um I've got a bit of a situation. Yeah um this car has got a major problem with it. It's got a severed ball joint the wheel is well and truly up into the arch, um I can pull this up but it's going to be a bit of a [expletive] nightmare, so.
MP: I saw the photo and immediately thought, that's not a flat tyre, that's yeah something else, um, one sec I will just put you on hold for a moment.
[inaudible background speech by third party male].
MP: [Places call on hold 28 seconds into call, audio cannot be heard].
MP: Resumes call at 1min & 30 seconds into call, audio returns.
[inaudible background speech by third party male]
CC: I've just got a truck driver that's turned up, he's hit a sign here claims that this is an accident tow and he's in my work site and he won't get out of here. So, I'm just trying to find out what the go is here at the moment but...
[third party male heard in background stating "I have every right to be here mate"]
MP: Is it obvious of any damage, it's hard to say I know you're at a roundabout and
CC: Well, I think he's, I think he's right in regard that it has hit the curb and um yeah, so that's what caused the damage so.
[Male responds - "I have every right to be here"]
CC: Mate. He's being non-compliant so yeah, he's obstructing.
[Male - "Don't be talking to me like that, you put your hand on me and we will walk to the corner right now"]
[Male - "Get your [expletive] hands off me mate"]
MP: [Expletive] are you OK Chris, I'm calling the police
An unknown male from the tow truck has approached me and asked me if I was going to tow the vehicle and proceeded to state to me that I can't tow the vehicle because it has been involved in an accident. The member to this point had made no mention to me whatsoever that she had been involved in an accident. The male person was advised numerous times to step away from the vehicle, which he has refused to comply. The male person has then proceeded to access the wheel well of the vehicle and start touching damaged parts. The male person was advised again to stop touching the vehicle, in which male person has continued to refuse to comply with directions.
I then proceeded to create a physical barrier between the male person and the vehicle by positioning my arm across in front of his chest and telling him again to step back away from the vehicle. The male person has responded with verbal threats and then has immediately grabbed me by the shirt and body, in which I have responded by grabbing his clothing and trying to push him away from me. Another male person standing nearby has attempted to stop the situation and the member was heard to be screaming "stop".
I moved the male person over to the grass area nearby and knowing that the male person was not willing to stop this altercation, I leg swept him and transitioned him to the ground in an attempt to defuse the situation and prevent the incident from continuing.
The male person however was very strong and has managed to roll me over onto my back and then has proceeded to repeatedly punch me in the face.
I eventually was able to stop the male person by talking to him and he has eventually stopped and let go of me and walked away.
It was after this time that the owner of the disabled vehicle has made the admission that she may have made contact with the gutter nearby, which had resulted in the damage to the vehicle.
There was no damage to RACQ property or further damage to the member's vehicle as a result of the incident.
It is alleged that on Thursday 19 September 2024 at approximately 8:05am while attending to a member tow at Delancey Street Ormiston (Reference T002746044), you acted in an unsafe manner which may have put the safety of the RACQ member, a member of the public and your own personal safety at risk. Specifically:
a) It is alleged that you engaged in and escalated a heated verbal altercation with a tow
truck driver from another organisation which then led to a physical altercation. The
video footage identifies you posturing towards the other tow truck driver before
pushing him as he knelt down to observe the disabled vehicle.
b) The other tow truck driver stood up and you both engaged in some aggressive push-
pull behaviours and the members car being involved while you were held down
against it, which had the potential of damaging the members car. .
c) The member and another tow truck driver then attempted to break the fight up at this
You both aggressively held on to each other as you moved towards the curb side, off
d) Once you were on the curb side you allegedly further escalated the incident by
performing a "leg sweep" (as described in your incident report) on the tow truck
e) You were both on the ground with the tow truck driver appearing to punch you
f) You then both returned to a standing position and the physical altercation appeared
Your actions have the potential to cause RACQ brand and reputational damage with the member and other onlookers , and broader public which could have significant financial implications for RACQ as a trusted road-safety provider
It is alleged such actions are in breach of your Position Description, the Safety Management System - Health and Safety Policy the RACQ's Code of Conduct and Values, specifically Show Care. In addition, your actions were inconsistent with your obligations pursuant to Section 28 of the Queensland Work Health and Safety Act 2011, which requires that 'while at work, workers are required to take reasonable care of their own health and safety and that of others who may be affected by their actions or omissions'.
This alleged type of behaviour could be considered serious misconduct as defined in the Fair Work Regulations, specifically;
ii. the reputation, viability or profitability of the employer's business;
Engaging in theft, fraud, assault or sexual harassment in the course of the employee's employment;
If serious misconduct is established, this may result in summary dismissal
Further, what gives RACQ the authority to determine that I am at fault in the context of a serious criminal offence of which I am a victim? Criminal offences are a matter for law enforcement and the courts to investigate and determine liability and fault, not for administrative middle management in an operations environment.
It is also crucial to emphasise that no RACQ policies, procedures or Fair Work Regulations can override my right to self-defence. Self-defence is a justified action under the Criminal Code.
The male has managed to swiftly roll over during this motion and sit on top of me and has begun to violently punch me in both sides of my head. I did not at any time strike the male back in self-defence.
Further, my mere presence standing beside the disabled vehicle, in no way amounts to 'posturing.' This was my work area to manage and it was a vehicle which I was responsible for. It is categorically false that I have pushed the other driver as he knelt down to observe the disabled vehicle.
Once on the grass/footpath area he was still aggressively grabbing me, and I saw no other option than to transition him to the ground to break his hold of me to allow me to make space and get away from him. I performed a leg sweep manoeuvre which transitioned him to the ground but rather than letting go, he continued his firm grasp on me and has swiftly swung around so I was laying on my back on the ground with him sitting directly on top of me.
The initial allegations contain some inaccuracies on how they have been delivered, however still amount to the same result. For example, it was alleged that you engaged in and escalated a heated verbal altercation with a tow truck driver from another organisation. This is not established with the evidence available and based on your responses. It should be noted, that you took the correct steps in contacting your Fleet Controller to seek support on what you should do as you agreed with the other Tow Truck Drivers assessment that the car had hit the curb and that is what has caused the damage. However, you did not follow your training by retreating, instead you were taking an authoritative approach towards the other Tow Truck Driver by referring to the other tow truck driver as being 'non compliant' and asking for their name and telling them to get back and where to stand which did look like 'posturing' as you pointed over the person's shoulder and is further supported by the audio evidence available. While this was not a heated verbal altercation, your comments and approach did escalate the situation unnecessarily.
You deny the allegation that you pushed the other Tow Truck driver as he knelt down and refer to being set upon by the other Tow Truck Driver and that all you did was put your hand above the drivers shoulder and use your foot to gain some space between the two of you. However the video evidence is clear and shows that you did shove/ push the other Tow Truck Driver initiating physical violence and this resulted in the other Tow Truck Driver aggressively reacting (as per the allegations) which then led to the pushing and pulling behaviours.
You advised that you deliberately held on to the other Tow Truck Driver and moved them to the curb side where you undertook the leg sweep on them to try and de-escalate the situation, however this resulted in you being punched in the face 7 times by the other Tow Truck Driver.
These actions are not aligned with RACQ training and Procedures. Specifically "Managing threatening situations" (completed March 29, 2023) and Towing and Incident Workplace Health and Safety Training which also addresses managing threatening situations and conflicts (completed in April 2023 and again more recently in July 2024).
You agreed that you put your safety at risk - noting you stated that you 100% put yourself at risk and your view is to put the property first (member's car), then yourself, then the member. This is contrary to all of the training provided to you.
You were provided multiple opportunities and ample time to reflect on the situation and your actions. You maintain that you cannot see how you could have done anything differently.
On the balance of probabilities, the allegations that have been put to you have been substantiated, to the exclusion of the reference that you engaged in a heated verbal altercation. Based on the outcome and findings, I have determined that your conduct was inappropriate, unprofessional and are contrary to RACQ's values and Code of Conduct. Your actions also fail to align with the conditions set out in your contract of employment
The overwhelming and most vital reason that I directed the tow truck driver away from the vehicle initially then blocked his path and guided him away from the damaged vehicle was my immediate concern for his safety.
It is possible that the vehicle suspension could have collapsed at any time. Should this have happened whilst the tow truck driver was interfering with parts under the wheel well he could have been seriously injured. Remember, this was my worksite and I was responsible for its safety.
I used the analogy during our last meeting that should the person interfering the with vehicle been the member, the members young daughter, a member of the public or a Police Officer, I would have been seriously negligent not to have prevented any person from entering this dangerous space and I would have been criminally negligent if any person had suffered injury as a result of me not keeping my workspace safe.
In your correspondence you suggested that I let this all happen and get in the cabin of the RACQ truck. I trust that any competent and professional driver would never leave a dangerous scene in this way. (it is important to note that at this time the tow truck driver had offered no violence or threats).
Of course I had to undertake an immediate risk assessment at the time. If I did not prevent any person from interfering with the vehicle (that was under tension and attached to my truck) and the suspension collapsed the consequence would be catastrophic.
If I did prevent the person from interfering with the vehicle (by creating a barrier and guiding him away) I considered that the other tow truck driver may have objected.
I considered the consequence of his objection may have been verbal only.
What I did not account for was that the person would violently attack me, attempt to gouge my eyes and punch me in the face a minimum of six times with a closed fist. In considering risk vs consequence, I failed to properly consider that the tow truck driver would commit a serious criminal assault on me. (An assault that is currently being investigated as a serious assault by Queensland Police).
At no stage did I deny touching the driver of the other vehicle. I stated this on multiple occasions in front of all participants at the last meeting. I stated that I guided him back from the dangerous situation with such gentleness that he did not fall or sustain the slightest injury.
On 23 October 2024, during the scheduled meeting with the Applicant, Mr Delaney provided the Applicant with a termination letter. The stated reasons for termination are as follows:
We consider your performance and conduct on the day of the incident to be inconsistent with workplace training and practices which put yourself and others at risk. In addition, your interaction with the other Tow Truck Driver by initiating physical contact in the manner in which you did is unacceptable. Your behaviour has lacked professional integrity and seriously falls short of the standards of conduct expected of you as an employee at RACQ.
During the process you have failed to identify the correct safe work methods you could have and should have used instead of physically engaging with the other Tow Truck Driver. You have failed to demonstrate during this process that you would follow appropriate safe work methods if faced with a similar situation or unreasonable customer conduct again in the future and failed to satisfy RACQ that you would reduce the risk of such behaviour occurring again.
As a result, RACQ has lost trust and confidence in you as an employee to operate and conduct yourself to the standard expected. Your actions on the day were highly visible to the member, the general public (being a busy road) which may cause irreversible reputational damage into the future for RACQ. Further to this, your conduct has breached RACQ's values, Code of Conduct, specifically;
• Know, understand and manage your responsibilities including adherence to compliance obligations
• you failed to priortise your personal safety and behave in a safe manner
You failed to follow the Safety Management System - Health and Safety Policy, Part 4 - Roles and Responsibilities - All leaders and employees
• "Follow all reasonable instruction and training received as part of their employment or engagement with RACQ and do not knowingly act in such a way as to put their own or others health and safety at risk;"
You have breached Section 28 of the Queensland Work Health and Safety Act 2011 -
• "While at work, workers are required to take reasonable care for their own health and
safety and that of others who may be affected by their actions or omissions. They must
also cooperate with any reasonable instruction given by the PCBU and any reasonable
policy or procedure of the PCBU to comply with the WHS Act and WHS Regulation."
Given the above, it has been determined that a disciplinary penalty is warranted. When
determining the disciplinary penalty RACQ has considered the seriousness of your breaches, your previous workplace performance and conduct, your participation in this process and any other relevant information. The disciplinary penalty made against you is termination.
I was required to take reasonable care of the tow truck driver that could have been injured by the vehicle that I had put under tension or by a vehicle driving into the rear of the vehicle under tow. I saw the driver as being in imminent risk of injury. Should he have been injured or killed as a result of my omitting to block his access to my site I would see this as a serious offence[15]
If I did not prevent any person from interfering with the vehicle (that was under tension and attached to my truck) and the suspension collapsed the consequence would be catastrophic.[16]
Do you feel that your actions were consistent with your training and instruction from RACQ on the avoidance and de‑escalation of conflict?‑‑‑Not in that regard.
I understand that you've stated on multiple occasions that you would not do anything differently. Is that correct?‑‑‑That's correct, yes
And you'd do it all again?‑‑‑That's correct[28]
Situational awareness is key but remember that many situations are dynamic and can change quickly.
Members of the public may be involved in road related incidents. This may lead to people venting their frustrations and reacting in an emotional manner. It is reasonable to allow this venting to occur, as long as it does not escalate or cross over into physical violence.
Listen patiently and attempt to sympathise without trying to dissuade or argue.
Paralanguage is the message we send by our tone of voice, pitch, inflection, and phrasing.
Attention and focus, indicating your involvement and concern for what they are telling you will almost always serve to increase communication, trust, and cooperation. Monitor body language for non-verbal cues of frustration.
Keep your tone and demeanour professional - don't take the bait with personal insults directed at you, but calmly deflect these and deescalate or disengage and depart
Quickly and calmly retreat to your vehicle and drive away to safety
Call your Manager & the Contact Centre & inform them of the situation and await further directions
If at any time the confrontation appears to be escalating to the point where a physical
altercation may occur and/or your personal safety is compromised, quickly and calmly
Call your Manager and/or call the Contact Centre and inform them of the situation and
If you are prevented from driving away and you feel you are at risk of physical harm, dial 000 and request immediate Police attendance.
Was the dismissal harsh, unjust or unreasonable?
(a) whether there was a valid reason for the dismissal related to the person's capacity or conduct (including its effect on the safety and welfare of other employees);
Don't be talking to me like that, you put your hand on me and we will walk to the
While at work, workers are required to take reasonable care for their own health and
safety and that of others who may be affected by their actions or omissions. They must
also cooperate with any reasonable instruction given by the PCBU and any reasonable
policy or procedure of the PCBU to comply with the WHS Act and WHS Regulation
(2) For the purposes of subregulation (1), conduct that is serious misconduct includes the following conduct of an employee:
(a) wilful or deliberate behaviour that is inconsistent with the continuation of the contract of employment;
(b) conduct that causes serious and imminent risk to:
(ii) the reputation, viability or profitability of the employer's business;
(c) engaging in theft, fraud, assault or sexual harassment in the course of the employee's employment;
(e) refusing to carry out a lawful and reasonable instruction that is consistent with the employee's contract of employment.
(b) whether the person was notified of that reason;
(c) whether the person was given an opportunity to respond to any reason related to the capacity or conduct of the person; and
(d) any unreasonable refusal by the employer to allow the person to have a support person present to assist at any discussions relating to the dismissal; and
(e) if the dismissal related to unsatisfactory performance by the person - whether the person had been warned about that unsatisfactory performance before the dismissal; and
(f) the degree to which the size of the employer's enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(g) the degree to which the absence of dedicated human resource management specialists or expertise in the enterprise would be likely to impact on the procedures followed in effecting the dismissal; and
(h) any other matters that the FWC considers relevant.
At every stage when speaking or communicating with RACQ I got the clear impression
that they were not interested in my responses, rather I formed the opinion that they were intending to terminate me.[40]
[3] Annexure MP-2 to Mark Pennings Witness Statement
[5] Annexure MP-3 to Mark Pennings Witness Statement
[8] Brett Cunningham Witness Statement [12].
[9] BC1 to Brett Cunningham Witness Statement
[11] Annexure AH3 to Andrew Heafield Witness Statement.
[12] Annexure AH5 to Andrew Heafield Witness Statement
[13] Annexure JD1 to Joel Delaney Witness Statement
[20] Applicant Outline of Submissions, page 85 of Digital Hearing Book
[22] Applicant outline of submissions, page 71 of Digital Hearing Book.
[30] Annexure AH2 to Andrew Heafield Witness Statement
[36] Selvachandran v Peteron Plastics Pty Ltd [1995] IRCA 333; (1995) 62 IR 371, 373.
[37] [2021] FWC 4 at 118.
[38] Commonwealth of Australia (Australian Taxation Office) t/a Australian Taxation Office v Shamir [2016] FWCFB 4185, [46], citing Allied Express Transport Pty Ltd v Anderson (1998) 81 IR 410, 413.
[41] Joel Delaney Witness Statement [20].
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