Mr Ibrahim's evidence
38 Mr Ibrahim was interviewed by Mr Kearney on 12 July 2006 and the transcript of that interview was admitted into evidence (exhibit 14). He gave evidence that he was the owner and builder at 134 Dora Street. Mr Dandan removed the asbestos from the site. Because he was busy, Mr El Gammal was engaged to do the demolition. The same person who removed asbestos from 134 Dora Street (Mr Dandan) also did it at another building site in Chatswood where Mr Ibrahim was in charge. He estimated the demolition took not less than two weeks.
39 In his oral evidence, Mr Ibrahim said he asked Adam (Mr El Gammal) where he was going to "tip it", but he did not instruct him to take it anywhere in particular. The following exchange appears at page 80:50 of the transcript:
Q: I understand… you said some things were to be kept to be reused and you said the remaining house and topsoil to take to the tip, I don't care where so did you specifically instruct them to take it anywhere?
A: No not me, I don't, he said I'm going to tip it in, but he gave me a receipt for, I don't know what its called, Affordable Recycle bins on 22 June 2006 he took three loads, no two loads mixed demolition on 7 June and on 9, same month, one load mixed demolition and next day on the 10 June 2006 two loads of bricks, he gave me this, he said "I tip them there". You can have it if you want.
(I note this receipt was not tendered as evidence - see earlier note about exhibit 16 at par 6). Further, at page 81:9:
Q: And those dates on which that material, that that document says the material was taken in those were the dates was when the demolition was occurring?
A: Yes.
Q: You're indicating in your interview that there was a demolition, you used a small truck and a bin white truck, were there any other trucks that you saw on site at any time?
A: The first time only single truck, white truck took the trees, two loads I think, the trees, one tree a big one and I think the next day, the third day we get another trailer and same truck, truck and trailer together, the same truck
Q: Okay and you also said that you at about 7 July you hired three extra trucks?
A: Yes.
40 In the record of interview (exhibit 14), Mr Ibrahim stated that Mr El Gammal started work on about 5 or 7 June. Furthermore, he stated that "Adam started work on the site, after two days he took the trees, 2 loads in the small truck and second in the big white truck. Then approximately 1-3 loads per day average over 10 days and approximately 2 weeks." Mr Ibrahim then said "on approximately 2 July, I hired extra 3 trucks total loads for excavation was 13 loads approximately. For the demolition only total approximately 6-7 loads from the big white truck including trailer." He also stated that more waste left the site than was in the waste management plan.
41 Mr Ibrahim said in the record of interview (exhibit 14) that he was "100 per cent" sure that the bricks depicted in the photographs in exhibit 4 were from 134 Dora Street. In his oral evidence he was asked to choose photographs in exhibit 4 which depicted bricks which were the same as the ones at 134 Dora Street and to mark these. He selected the photographs on pages 10 and 11 (pile 3), and 18 (pile 10) while he stated he was unsure of the photograph on page 12. When he was asked the general question of whether he was sure of the photographs of the bricks he believed were similar, he answered "maybe". He was also shown the box of material from 134 Dora Street in exhibit 5 and asked if that was the same or similar to the bricks at 134 Dora Street, to which he could not provide a precise answer. The following exchange occurred at page 84:18 of the transcript:
Q: The court officer is just showing you exhibit 5, which is a box containing a couple of bricks and some tile samples?
A: Anyway, the tiles you can't tell.