[2025] NSWCATAP 85
General information, not legal advice.
NCAT Appeal Panel
2025-04-22
A. Bell SC, Senior MemberM. Tibbey, Senior Member
Original judgment source is linked above.
1 By consent, the decision of the Tribunal on 14 June 2024 in proceedings 2023/00380510 is set aside, noting that it was made without regard to the stay in appeal proceedings 2024/00087516.
2 The appeal is otherwise dismissed in accordance with Section 55 (1)(a) of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 as the Appellant has withdrawn the application.
There was some confusion in the costs submissions submitted by the parties. Some of the submissions filed by the parties referred to the costs decision by the Tribunal at first instance. Prior to the appeal decision, the costs decision of the Tribunal at first instance was set aside, as it was apparently made without consideration of all the costs submissions filed by the parties. The Appeal Panel has no power to reconsider the issue of costs of the Tribunal proceedings, as there was no costs decision of the Tribunal that was the subject of an internal appeal under s 80 of the NCAT Act ( LMA Contractors Pty Ltd v Changizi [2017] NSWCATAP 145 at [17]- [20]). Any application for costs at first instance is a matter to be agitated before the Tribunal, not the Appeal Panel.
1 1. The applicant the owners - Strata plan number 52482, is to launch with the Tribunal, and give to the other party the documents they rely on on an application for costs together with submissions that the costs application can be heard without a hearing in person pursuant to s50(2) of the NCAT Act by 31 January 2025.
2. Any documents in reply including submissions that the costs application can be decided on the submissions are to be lodged with the Tribunal and given to the applicant the owners - Strata plan number 52482, by 14 February 2025.
3. The applicant is to file and serve it submissions in reply by 28 February 2025.
There is no right at common law for the owners corporation to request the previous Tribunal (a lower court) to make another fresh new - again orders on the costs against the decision of the Appeal Panel made on 24 July 2024 (a higher court).
Mr Neville: Of course so we, our position is obviously we support the cost decision but we understand that Mr Choi has the right to make his submissions and we also understand that this might be a moot point depending on the result of the appeal.... I guess my, my question to you based on what you have just heard is, if we do agree to set aside that judgment on the cost matter, that has to be reheard, is that, is that correct? That we can just resubmit the same thing?
Member: Yes you could, you, and it may be of course that if the Appeal Panel changes the substance of the primary decision that pays take a different view... I can't predict that but certainly it doesn't prevent that being decided later, it would just set aside that decision about the costs made without Mr Choi's submissions.
Mr Neville:... It just seems like a much more cost effective and um efficient situation to set, set it aside on condition that we are allowed to resubmit once, assuming if the appeal goes our way that we have been permitted to resubmit our application and
Member:... I would not need to make that condition Mr Neville that is the automatic outcome of having it set aside is that it needs to be redetermined. I would make a notation that it was determined without Mr Choi's submissions and needed to be redetermined.
Member: Mr Choi do you have any questions about what I have explained is that a satisfactory outcome from your perspective?
Mr Choi: Um, can I ahh, proceed to ahh, invalid invalidate the decision rather than outside or something like this
Member: So any decision that you had to pay costs would no longer be there
Member: It would have to be decided again later if the parties still press it after the other appeal is done
Member: But it would not stop you running any of your arguments about why you should not have to pay costs no matter what
Member: And it would have to be re-decided with everybody's submissions
Mr Choi: Ok all right yeah Ok I understand so it's that Tribunal decision doesn't effective anyway, is it correct?
Member: That's right, if I set it aside, that's right
(1) an appeal against an internally appealable decision may be made to an Appeal Panel by a party to the proceedings in which the decision is made.
(2) Any internal appeal may be made:
(a) in the case of an interlocutory decision of the Tribunal at first instance - with the leave of the Appeal Panel, and
(b) in the case of any other kind of decision (including an ancillary decision) of the Tribunal at first instance - as of right on any question of law, or with the leave of the Appeal Panel, on any other grounds.
(1) The Tribunal has internal appeal jurisdiction over:
(a) any decision made by the Tribunal in proceedings for a general decision or administrative review decision, and
(b) any decision made by a registrar of a kind that is declared by this Act or the procedural rules to be internally appealable for the purposes of this section.
(2) The Tribunal also has the following jurisdiction in proceedings for the exercise of its internal appeal jurisdiction:
(a) the jurisdiction to make ancillary and interlocutory decisions of the Tribunal in the proceedings,
(b) the jurisdiction to exercise such other functions as are conferred or imposed on the Tribunal by or under this Act or enabling legislation in connection with the conduct or resolution of such proceedings.
(3) However, the internal appeal jurisdiction of the Tribunal does not extend to:
(a) any decision of an Appeal Panel, or
(b) any decision of the Tribunal in an external appeal, or
(c) any decision of the Tribunal in proceedings for the exercise of its enforcement jurisdiction, or
(d) any decision of the Tribunal in proceedings for the imposition of a civil penalty in the exercise of its general jurisdiction.
(1) The Tribunal has general jurisdiction over a matter if:
(a) legislation (other than this Act or the procedural rules) enables the Tribunal to make decisions or exercise other functions, whether on application or of its own motion, of a kind specified by the legislation in respect of that matter, and
(b) the matter does not otherwise fall within the administrative review jurisdiction, appeal jurisdiction or enforcement jurisdiction of the Tribunal.
(2) The Tribunal also has the following jurisdiction in proceedings for the exercise of its general jurisdiction:
(a) the jurisdiction to make ancillary and interlocutory decisions of the Tribunal in the proceedings,
(b) the jurisdiction to exercise such other functions as are conferred or imposed on the Tribunal by or under this Act or enabling legislation in connection with the conduct or resolution of such proceedings.
(1) In this Act, decision includes any of the following:
(a) making suspending, revoking or refusing to make an order or determination,
(b) giving, suspending, revoking or refusing to give a certificate, direction, approval, consent or permission,
(c) issuing, suspending, revoking or refusing to issue a licence, authority, or other instrument,
(d) imposing a conditional restriction,
(e) retaining, or refusing to deliver up, an article,
(f) doing or refusing to do any other act or thing.
24 Because the direction made on 14 May 2021 for the parties to make a submission is of no continuing operative effect, it is unnecessary for us to consider the Respondent's submission to the effect that the direction is in fact not an appellable decision. Nevertheless, we are inclined to the view that a direction for the parties to make a submission is not a decision within the meaning of the definition of "decision" contained in s 5 of the NCAT Act. That section defines a decision in inclusive terms and the direction does not, in our view, respond to any of the kinds of decisions described in subsections (1) (a) to (f). Subsection (g) includes the definition of a decision as "doing or refusing to do any other act or thing". In our view a direction to make a submission is not a decision requiring a party to do an act of thing. Rather it is a statement that the party has an opportunity to be heard, being a preliminary step before a decision is made
25 We note that the word "direction" is contained within s 5(1)(b). By that subsection a decision includes "giving, suspending, revoking or refusing to give a certificate, direction, approval, consent or permission". We remain of the view that that subsection does not include a direction requiring a party to make a submission but is intended to include a direction of a more substantive nature. That is apparent from the other kinds of decisions referred to in the subsection, namely giving, suspending, revoking or refusing to give a certificate, approval, consent or permission.
We agree with that analysis and are of the view that the making of the timetabling orders does not constitute a "decision" within the NCAT Act. If it does, we do not consider that it is an "internally appealable decision" within the NCAT Act, because it is unlikely that the legislature intended to confer a right of appeal from timetabling orders (even with a leave requirement).
(1) To the extent required, leave to appeal is refused.
(2) Appeal dismissed.
(3) If either party wishes to apply for a costs order in relation to this appeal they must make an application for costs with supporting written submissions lodged within 14 days of the date of these orders.
(4) The other party may respond to an application for costs of this appeal with written submissions lodged within 21 days of the date of these orders.
(5) Any party applying for costs may lodge written submissions in reply within 28 days of the date of these orders.
(6) In any costs application or costs submissions parties must indicate whether or not they consent to the Appeal Panel deciding the question of costs "on the papers", that is by considering the written submissions, rather than also having an oral hearing.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
[1] In this decision the number of the strata plan was incorrectly stated as 53482 instead of 52482.
[2] The number of the strata plan was also incorrectly stated in this decision.
Choi
The Owners- Strata Plan No. 52482 [2025] NSWCATAP 85