Is there an interest that may be affected?
170 It is important to emphasis that the eight party applicants do not speak for the Mayala Claim Group. They represent a small minority. Even having regard to the additional affidavits I have received, upon the undertaking given by Mr Walker, counsel for the party applicants, that position remains. Their individual and combined assertions as to the boundary lines are at odds with the boundary lines agreed to in 1996 and later set out in the record of the claimants in effect at the joint meeting which occurred on 15 April 1997. That is disputed by counsel for the party applicants. Nonetheless I find that to be the fact.
171 Amongst others, one of the apical ancestors now deceased and whose name I will not, as a matter of respect, mention as I understand it, as well as one of the six named apical ancestors in the Mayala application were present at that April 1997 meeting as indeed was Mr Adrian Isaac and Mr Aubrey Tigan on the Mayala side.
172 The position of the party applicants is for the same reason necessarily at odds with the boundaries claimed in the 1998 Mayala application. This last fact is one, in my opinion, which is of very great importance in the context of these motions.
173 Professor Valda Blundell, an anthropologist, gave evidence both written and oral concerning the interplay between the Dambimangari and Mayala claims. I have considered, with some care, the entirety of her written and oral testimony. However, for present purposes, I propose to refer only to part of her affidavit in particular and again, as in other cases, the fact that I do not refer to other paragraphs should not be seen as an indication that I did not regard them as relevant.
174 Professor Valda Blundell is Emeritus Professor of Anthropology at Carlton University in Ottowa, Canada. She studied anthropology at the University of Wisconsin and completed a Ph.D in 1975. She worked extensively in the Kimberley region since 1972 when she conducted anthropological fieldwork for her Ph.D dissertation regarding the cultural traditions and country connections of Wanjina-Wunggurr people. She worked with senior Wanjina-Wunggurr people including people connected to Worrora, Unggarrangu, Umida, Ngarinjin and Wunambal language countries. She returned to the Kimberley in 1976 and 1977 for post doctoral research.
175 In 1994 she resumed anthropological fieldwork in the Kimberley with people that she had worked with in the 1970s along with many of their offspring. Since 1994 she has continued this research, spending time in the Kimberley nearly every year. During this period she has worked with those Aboriginal people on a project called the Family History Project. This project has brought together information regarding the forebears of members of the Wanjina Wunggurr people. It has involved extensive discussions with senior Wanjina Wunggurr people and the integration of information from historical records in the resulting database.
176 She has been an expert witness in the Wanjina Wunggurr Wilinggin native title claim which was determined in 2004. She has written several scholarly articles based on her Kimberley research including a book co-authored with Donny Woolagoodja and other members of the Wanjina Wunggurr community entitled Keeping the Wanjinas Fresh: Sam Woolagoodja and the Enduring Power of the Lalai published by Freemantle Press in 2005.
177 In para 6 Professor Blundell states the following:
In my opinion, members of the Wanjina-Wunggurr Dambimangari claim group are connected to country that falls geographically within the homeland of the Wanjina-Wunggurr people. These people share a set of traditional laws and customs commonly known as the Wanjina-Wunggurr culture. Geographically, the majority of the Wanjina-Wunggurr homeland falls within the Wanjina-Wunggurr Dambimangari claim area, the Wanjina-Wunggurr Uunguu claim area, and the Wanjina-Wunggurr Wilinggin native title determination area. However, a small portion of the Wanjina-Wunggurr homeland, namely, a part of the Dambimangari claim area extends into the Mayala claim area. This area is "under the platform (or umbrella)" of the Wanjina-Wunggurr culture, as contemporary Wanjina-Wunggurr people sometimes explain. Accordingly, it is my opinion that members of the Wanjina-Wunggurr Dambimangari claim group are connected to both the Mayala and the Wanjina-Wunggurr homeland through the laws and customs of their Wanjina-Wunggurr culture.
178 At paragraph 11 her opinion is:
It is also important to stress that Aboriginal societies are not isolated from other Aboriginal societies. This point is especially relevant with regard to the coast and islands (and adjacent ocean waters) of the Mayala claim area which are located at the margins of the Wanjina-Wunggurr homeland and adjoin (or may very well overlap) country associated with a different cultural system. Comments by Alan Rumsey and Anthony Redmond in a report prepared for the Wanjina-Wunggurr Wilinggin native title application are especially pertinent in this regard. As they write:
The concept of a 'boundary' for the cultural domain [i.e. the Wanjina-Wunggurr Culture] needs to be understood in terms of the permeability of social worlds which are open to influence from neighbouring regions… Just as there are clear areas where different dambun [i.e. local countries, also called dambima] share a social/physical space within the Wanjina-Wunggurr region and different languages overlap on country in the Wanjina/Wunggurr region, there are areas where different social systems, cultural domains overlap. People who belong to neighbouring cultural regions participate in and use the cultural repertoire of both systems.
179 At 12, Professor Blundell then expands on this matter of the boundaries. Then at 14 she deposes, "in my view, to understand the relationship between the Dambimangari and Mayala claim areas and associated claimants, there is a need to consider additional factors."
15. The first of these is the geographical location of the Mayala claim area, which appears to occupy a transitional zone between two dominant cultural domains namely Wanjina-Wunggurr and a cultural domain that includes Bardi and Jawi culture.
16. The second of these is the geographical location of the southern and south-western part of the Dambimangari claim area at the margins of the Wanjina-Wunggurr region.
17. These two factors suggest to me that we are dealing here with a 'transitional space,' that is with a 'border' or 'boundary' area that Indigenous people perceive as a 'zone of interaction' in the sense that Lloyd et al, have suggested."
180 True it is, as was put to her by counsel for the party applicants, that the focus of her dealings in the anthropological context has been with the Wanjina-Wunggurr people but that is no reason in my view to discount her testimony. There is no anthropological evidence which is inconsistent with the opinions expressed by her.
181 The opinion of Professor Blundell as to shared interests as I have described, is reflected in the fact that the shared interests held across the Mayala application area and the Western Yampi coast are accommodated by overlapping membership of the Mayala and the Dambimangari native title claim groups. Specifically descendants of Jabadayim and Jacob Sesar are members of both claim groups.
182 The fact that the Dambimangari native title claim group is connected to the Mayala application area through the laws and customs of their Wanjina-Wunggurr culture is in evidence. This means, I accept, that any interests of one group that are asserted in the other application area are reciprocal such that a hard boundary is not an appropriate delineation between them. And certainly, in my opinion, there is evidence to support the view that the exercise of those rights may be the subject of negotiation.
183 The agreement reached on 9 October 1996 to which I have referred between the Dambimangari native title claim group and the Bardi Jawi precursors of the Mayala native title claim group, to the effect that members of the two groups who have customarily exercised rights in the other area will be recognised by the other claimant group as being entitled to continue to exercise those rights in the other area, seems to me to be a relevant factor also.
184 I accept that there is a commitment by the applicant in the Dambimangari application and by the Dambimangari claim group that they are prepared to negotiate with the Mayala Claim Group about the mutual recognition of traditional rights of access and usage along the West Yampi coast and the Mayala Islands.
185 The commitment by the applicant in the Mayala application and by the Mayala Claim Group that they are prepared to negotiate with the Dambimangari claim group about the mutual recognition of traditional rights of access and usage along the West Yampi coast and the Mayala Islands is also supported on the evidence.
186 I now turn to the detail of some of the documents to which I was taken variously by both counsel for the party applicants and for the applicant.
187 Caitlin Fegan affirmed her affidavit on 24 May 2011. Ms Fegan is a legal officer with the KLC. Her affidavit includes, in effect, a paraphrase or a translation of the agreement reached on 9 October. One finds the following at para 4 of her affidavit:
The Worrora, Umiida, Yawijibaya and Uuggarrangu people always used to fish around the islands. Never mind these islands are in the Bardi Jawi claim, Worrora people can still come and fish there.
It's the same with Bardi Jawi people, they used to fish along the mainland. Never mind this country is in the Worrora, Umiida, Yawijibaya and Unggarrangu Claim, Bardi-Jawi people can still come and fish there.
This is not just with fishing, what people used to do in the past, they can still keep on doing. It doesn't matter there is a boundary there."
188 A meeting occurred at the Head Office Derby. I am not sure which head office but that is what is contained in the document headed Memorandum addressed to Mr Malcolm Allbrook dated 21 April 1997. It was a meeting of the Worrora and Bardi Jawi men claimants discussing the boundary line of both claims. Now amongst others on behalf of the Bardi Jawi claimants included Mr Isaacs who I have referred to before and Jacob Sesar. KLC staff were also present. The memorandum includes the following:
There were a lot of arguments for where the new claim boundary should go. What made a big difference to where boundary line should go is when Frank [I understand that is a reference to Frank Davey] asked Jacob if he is claiming his mothers side. Which is near the inland end of Strickland Bay. He said yes, then Roy said that well then, Jacob should be put him in the Worrora Claim (which he agreed too, as well as all T/O's at meeting) and to make things easier the line shouldn't go in Strickland Bay (because it's Jacob's area if he is going in the Worrora Claim), Cone and Cascade Bay area then. Should go from in between Irvine and Cockatoo Islands, going through Goose Channel, down through Whirlpool Pass going down in between Muddle and Cussen Islands straight down to Scott Island, coming around through Hells Gate and splitting Cascade Bay. (As you can see on map attached).
Also said boundary line to go passed Cone Bay because there are claimants living out in Cone Bay and it is their rightful boundary.
This was agreed on by all of the Bardi/Jawi claimants . . . End of meeting claimants from both parties agreed that this line is only for the Government and doesn't matter where line goes, either side of line can be shared by both groups.
189 There was a Dambimangari claim group meeting on 23 February 2009 and the minutes of that meeting are in evidence in Ms Fegan's affidavit. Resolutions were proposed and passed it appears, unanimously, including those on page 34 which are as follows:
1. Members of the Dambimangari claimant group agree that all of the Mayala apical ancestors, just like the Japadayim, and their descendants, should be recognised as having rights and interests to the country along the Yampi coast from Helpman Island to Dugong Bay, including Koolan Island and Cockatoo Island;
2. They also agree that Junggarra (Ugurti's father) and his descendants, all of whom are Dambimangari descendants, have rights and interests to lands and waters in the Mayala claim; just like Japadayim and his descendants;
3. The meeting would like this resolution taken to the Mayala claimants for their consideration/discussion.
4. Dambimangari claimants would like the Mayala claimants to consider having a joint meeting; and
. . .
190 There was then a combined Mayala and Dambimangari senior claim group meeting on 16 and 17 April 2009. The resolutions proposed at that meeting are at page 47 of the Fegan affidavit and it can be seen that they are to the same effect as the resolutions put and passed on 23 February 2009 to which I have referred.
191 At that meeting a Mayala working group was constituted. It involved Mr Isaac, Aubrey Tigan, Lorna Hudson, Roy Wiggan, Frank Davey and Paddy Neowarra. There was then a Mayala native title claim group meeting on the 21 August 2009. The minutes are in evidence in the Fegan affidavit and a resolution passed unanimously which is contained at page 77 of the affidavit. The resolution was as follows:
1. the resolution of the Dambi meeting (read out today) is accepted
2. the Mayala people want to have an agreement with the Dambi people about shared country
3. the Mayala people want to negotiate the best for of agreement
4. the 6 people who negotiated with the Dambi people yesterday negotiate the agreement (names read out)."
192 There was then a Dambimangari native title claim group meeting at Derby on 23 September 2009, and resolution broadly consistent with the resolutions passed both by the Dambimangari claim group earlier in 2009 and by the Joint Claim Group meetings as set out at page 93 of the Fegan affidavit. There was the following day on 24 September 2009, a Mayala native title claim group meeting and it passed resolutions. These are set out at page 107:
1. The Mayala claimants ask the KLC to put a hold on the Federal Court Determination for the Dambimangari claim so that the Mayala and the Dambimangari can properly talk through …
2. The Mayala claimants ask the KLC to provide funding for independent lawyer to advise them in talking to the Dambi claim group.
3. If KLC will not put a hold on the Dambi determination, then Mayala claimants will take whatever to protect their rights to their country including becoming respondent …
I take the last resolution to mean becoming a respondent to this application.
193 On 12 May 2010, there was a meeting of the Mayala and Dambimangari Family Group for the Yampi Sound. I referred to this earlier. The minutes of that joint meeting are in Ms Fegan's affidavit. Some 32 people in total for the two claim groups attended as well as KLC staff and some others. Six, possibly seven, Mayala people left during the meeting with one of them, that is Mr Isaacs stating "… we are back to square one. I will be responding. See you in Court". If that was a threat of legal action, as I take it to have been, for example, an application for joinder of some Mayala people to the Dambimangari application then it appears to have been an empty threat.
194 In any event, those who remained, including some Mayala people voted to recommend that the written outcomes of the Dambimangari and Mayala meeting of 12 May 2010 held at Birdwood Downs to be provided to:
(a) the Dambimangari claim group meeting ;
(b) the Mayala Claim Group meeting; and
(c) the National Native Title Tribunal
and a recommendation was to be made to the Dambi(mangari) and Mayala Claim Groups that the Dambi(mangari) native title claim goes to determination with no change to the boundary. Those resolutions concerning those recommendations were passed.
195 Then it appears from the minutes that a new resolution was put in terms that a recommendation be made to the Dambi(mangari) and Mayala Claim Groups that the two groups recognise the rights and interests on the Yampi West coast of the descendants of the Mayala, Japadayim, Olgirr, Gudimilid, Ngarlgudmunn, Galawa, Dambi-Japadayim, Ugerti, and to support working towards an agreement to make this happen. This resolution was passed unanimously.
196 I accept that a number of Mayala Claim Group persons left the meeting before those resolutions were passed. This was a matter for them: they were not asked to leave but chose to leave. Whatever be the effect of the motions they demonstrate, it seems to me, a consistency of attitude and purpose on the part of the Dambimangari claim group members or at least those who were at the meeting, as well as, I might say, of some of the Mayala Claim Group members.
197 I referred earlier to the Mayala native title claim group meeting that occurred at One Arm Point on 6 October 2010. The agenda for that meeting included the following:
1. The recommendations of the joint meeting held between the representatives of Mayala (WAD 6255 of 1998) Native Title Claimants and the Wanjina Wungurr Dambimangari (WAD 6061 of 1998) Native Title Claimants held at Birdwood Downs on Wednesday 12 May 2010 ("The Recommendations")
2. Adopting the recommendations or rejecting The Recommendations
3. If the Mayala Claim Group elect to adopt The Recommendations directing each of the persons who comprise the Applicant to sign an undertaking that will take all necessary steps to implement The Recommendations.
4. If one or more persons who comprise the Applicant are unwilling to accept the directions of the claim group directing that the Applicant be replaced.
5. Authorising other members of the Mayala Claim Group to be the Applicant to deal with the matters arising in relation to Native Title Determination Application Mayala WAD 6255 of 1998.
198 I mentioned earlier, that when the second day of this meeting did not proceed, that there was instead a Mayala Madja men's meeting. I also mentioned before that the recommendations the subject of the 12 May 2009 meeting were not raised for discussion on 6 October. A resolution however was passed at that meeting which I consider to be a matter of some importance in respect to these motions. It was that the then current applicant in the Mayala application, David Wiggan, Lorna Hudson, Aubrey Tigan, Valerie Wiggan, Henry Mowaljarlie were no longer authorised to proceed with the Mayala application or to deal with matters arising in relation to it.
199 It appears on the same day that a further resolution was passed to authorise six persons, some different, some the same as the persons who were then the current applicant, to become the new members of the applicant. However, as I said earlier, that matter when it came before me in the Federal Court never proceeded to judgment because of opposition from those who are within the faction represented by the party applicants.
200 Taking all of these matters into account I consider it is arguable, but not strongly, that the interests of the party applicants may be affected by a determination in the proceedings.