austlii:cth/FedCFamC2G/2025/1100
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FedCFamC2G
2025-07-23
Original judgment source is linked above.
FEDERAL CIRCUIT AND FAMILY COURT OF AUSTRALIA (DIVISION 2)
MINISTER FOR IMMIGRATION AND MULTICULTURAL AFFAIRS
Note: The form of the order is subject to the entry in the Court's records.
Note: The Court may vary or set aside a judgment or order to remedy minor typographical or grammatical errors (r 17.05(2)(g) Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Division 2) (General Federal Law) Rules 2021 (Cth)), or to record a variation to the order pursuant to r 17.05 Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia (Division 2) (General Federal Law) Rules 2021 (Cth).
Application for a protection visa on 29 September 2017
MY STORY STARTED WHEN I BECOME GUARANTOR TO MY UNCLE, I HAVE BEEN A VICTIM AT THEIR OFFEND THREATENED BY USING VIOLENCE TO ME WHO FAILED TO PAY ON THE TIME, THEY SPLASHED WITH THE RED PAINT AND PIG HEAD ON MY FAMILY HOUSE THEIR ALSO WRITING ABUSIVE WORDS TO ME, EVERDAY TOTAL LOANS IS HIGHER AND I CONNOT AFFORD TO PAY IN JUST I'M AS A GUARANTOR. I AM VERY DEPRESSED AND A MAKES ME SOUL BECAUSE OF PRESSURED IN OFFEND INTERRUPTED BY THEM, I CONNOT FACE IT AT ALL ANYMORE AND I DECIDE TO LEAVE BECAUSE NOW MY LIFE IS IN DANGER AND HAYING A BIG RISK, I COME TO AUSTRALIA TO SEEK PROTECTION AND HOPE THE AUSTRALIA GOVERNMENT WILL HELP ME AND I GET PEACEFUL LIFE HERE, I HAVE NO CHOICE THAN LEAVING MY COUNTRY.
THEY HIT ME AND THREATENED IF I DO NOT PAY THEY WILL BURN MY MOTHER HOUSE AND FORCE MY FAMILY TO MADE A PAYMENT ALSO MY FAMILY MEMBER AS WELL'.
I'M SURE THEY WILL FIND ME IF I RETURN TO MY COUNTRY. I'M NOT BE ABLE TO BEAR THE RISK PROBLEMS AND I PRAY TO GOD. I DON'T WANT MY FAMILY MEMBER ALSO IN DENGER AND FALL VICTIM TO THEIR ATROCITY. I DIDN'T FIND A SOLUTION BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AT THE DEBTS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT WAS TOO HIGH. THE BANK IN MY COUNTRY PROVIDE FINANCIAL LEADING TO HELP ME.
Application for review in the Tribunal on 10 December 2017
Hello,
I am writing to request a change of date for the hearing on December 1st. Unfortunately, I will be on-site at the Iron Bridge mining job on that date and will be there for two weeks.
Is there any possibility of rescheduling the hearing for a date after December 14th?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Hello,
I have attached a photo of my confirmation for the upcoming work. I completed this confirmation last month. Typically, if I am not available for work, I need to inform the client at least four weeks in advance. I hope this information will help me to change the date of the work.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
The applicant said that he was genuinely still very fearful of the loan shark situation in Malaysia at that time because there were still people looking for him. When I asked him what he meant by that, he said that his brother mentioned to him sometime in 2017 that he had seen associates of the loan shark driving past their house and they were still intimidating.
I also accept that the claims outlined on the application form are consistent with the applicant's fears arising from Uncle K's loan situation in mid-2015 and the conduct of the people who had subsequently harassed the applicant and his family in connection with the repayments required to be made.
- I accept the applicant's evidence about the above incidents. The applicant did not tell me about any other incidents of concern to him.
- I asked the applicant if he knew whether Uncle K still owed any money to the loan shark. He said his Uncle K died in 2021. He did not know if there was an outstanding amount left.
- I asked the applicant if there was anything else that he wanted to tell me about what might happen if he returns to Malaysia. He responded by saying that it would be hard to find a good paying job or to earn good money. He said that he is comfortable in Australia now.
(a) The debt collectors specifically sought to ascertain the applicant's whereabouts in October or November 2016, and again in 2017 and 2019. But there have been no other occasions on which the applicant's family has been approached by the debt collectors since the applicant arrived in Australia in late July 2016.
(b) Although the applicant's family's neighbour's house was set on fire by a loan shark in November 2023, that incident was entirely unrelated to the applicant and Uncle K's loan.
(c) As such, there has been a minimum period of 5 years during which the debt collectors have not approached or engaged in any harassment or intimidatory conduct at all towards the applicant in Australia or his family in Malaysia.
(d) The loan agreement involving Uncle K was made for a 5-year period (until mid-2020). Uncle K died in 2021. It is unknown whether the loan repayments were completed.
- I determine the cumulative effect of the above findings is that the loan shark is no longer pursuing Uncle K's debt. I consider if the loan shark was still seeking repayments via the applicant, then additional approaches by them to the applicant's family in Malaysia would have occurred since 2018, either in the form of harassment or enquiries about the applicant's location. I also consider the passage of time since the loan was taken out by Uncle K, and his subsequent death, have diminished the loan shark's interest in the debt, assuming the debt in fact still existed when Uncle K passed away. These various matters comprise changed circumstances. Consequently, I find that the loan shark will not seek to harass, threaten, or harm the applicant in the reasonably foreseeable future should he return to Malaysia, despite what happened in the past.
- To be clear, contrary to the applicant's oral evidence at the hearing, I do not accept that the loan shark or their associates will try to locate the applicant, hit him, or harass him again in Malaysia.
3.1 The loan shark is no longer pursuing Uncle K's debt.
3.2 If the loan shark were still seeking repayments via the applicant, then additional approaches by them to the applicant's family in Malaysia would have occurred since 2018, either in the form of harassment or enquiries about the applicant's location.
3.3 The passage of time since the loan was taken out by Uncle K, and his subsequent death, have diminished the loan shark's interest in the debt.
3.4 The loan shark will not seek to harass, threaten, or harm the applicant in the reasonably foreseeable future should he return to Malaysia, despite what happened in the past.
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... the correct approach is to ask whether it was open to the Tribunal to engage in the process of reasoning in which it did engage and to make the findings it did make on the material before it. ...
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- On the probative evidence before the Tribunal, a logical or rational decision maker could have come to the same conclusion as the Tribunal. Whilst there may be varieties of illogicality and irrationality, a decision will not be illogical or irrational if there is room for a logical or rational person to reach the same decision on the material before the decision maker. A decision might be said to be illogical or irrational if only one conclusion is open on the evidence, and the decision maker did not come to that conclusion, or if the decision to which the decision maker came was simply not open on the evidence or if there is no logical connection between the evidence and the inferences or conclusions drawn.
A high degree of caution must, however, be exercised before finding that adverse findings as to credit expose jurisdictional error to ensure that the Court does not embark impermissibly upon merits review ... As such, to establish jurisdictional error based on illogical or irrational findings of fact or reasoning, 'extreme' illogicality must be demonstrated 'measured against the standard that it is not enough for the question of fact to be one on which reasonable minds may come to different conclusions' ... Thus '[e]ven emphatic disagreement with the Tribunal's reasoning would not be sufficient to make out illogicality' (emphasis added).
I certify that the preceding fifty-six (56) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of Deputy Chief Judge Mercuri.
[19] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [25] and [64].
[20] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [19] to [63].
[21] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [27] and [28].
[22] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [29] to [31].
[23] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraph [34].
[24] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [38] and [39].
[25] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraph [70].
[26] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [75].
[27] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraphs [79] to [80].
[29] Orders of Judge Kendall dated 11 September 2024.
[30] Applicant's outline of submissions filed 13 January 2025 at paragraph [9].
[31] DAO16 v Minister for Immigration and Border Protection [2018] FCAFC 2 at [30 (1)-(4)].
[32] Tribunal decision record dated 1 February 2024 at paragraph [68].
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