Alternative Approach
99Because so much effort was put into preparing the Plaintiffs' case, apparently upon the basis that the leave application would be successful and that there would be a hearing on the merits, and assuming contrary to my earlier conclusion that leave should not be granted, I shall set out some additional matters that are relevant to the merits of the substantive appeal and then my conclusions in respect thereof.
100Firstly, on the question whether the first Plaintiff is capable of managing her affairs, it is necessary to identify some of the additional medical evidence of Dr Parmegiani and Associate Professor Rosenfeld.
101The following are the salient points raised in the medical reports:
(a) During the assessment by Dr Parmegiani, the first Plaintiff did not express delusional ideas. She did not feel persecuted, watched, or followed. She did not experience visual or auditory hallucinations. She did not express irrational ideas.
(b) On MMSE testing, the first Plaintiff scored 20/30. This indicated moderate degree of cognitive impairment. She had poor short-term memory. She was initially unable to name one of her children. She could not perform basic subtractions or copy a simple drawing. (With Associate Professor Rosenfeld, she scored 26/30.)
(c) She presented as a coherent and strong-willed individual. Her cognitive decline is thought likely to be exacerbating pre-existing personality traits including stubbornness, irritability and the need to maintain control.
(d) Whilst the first Plaintiff does not suffer a psychiatric disorder, there is a question about her cognitive capacity and whether she can manage her affairs.
(e) The clinical features of the history and examination as well as the documents and opinions read by Associate Professor Rosenfeld, suggested the presence of mild to moderate cognitive impairment, including, to a degree, higher level executive impairments such as higher level judgment and decision making. She probably did not suffer dementia, but there were features that are consistent with early, probably vascular, brain disease.
(f) Her ability to manage financial and monetary affairs is probably less than would be reasonably expected to be necessary or safe. She has, and is likely to continue to need assistance with day-to-day financial transactions and monetary dealings.
(g) Her ability to consider and determine health care needs and accommodation, preferences and consent are more likely to be greater, or at least at a level that would be adequate for her to understand the implications of the issues and her decisions regarding them. She has a degree of retained insight consistent with the features of her premorbid personality and background.
(h) According to Associate Professor Rosenfeld, she demonstrated during his assessment, a clear understanding of and views regarding her family connections, the relative merits of the issues and personalities involved and her desire to have her wishes abided.
Dr Rosenfeld concludes that there exists a degree of cognitive impairment with a degree of reduced insight, coupled with a background personality of strong will and determination. She retains her capacity to judge and decide.
102I note also, that the first Plaintiff repeated the lie about handing over the money to the priest when she was asked about it by Associate Professor Rosenfeld. She also told him that she was thinking about buying a unit and getting a nurse to look after her but was unable to elaborate how this would eventuate. In my view, each of these matters demonstrate a lack of insight into her own condition.
103Also, I have had the very considerable benefit of seeing and hearing the first Plaintiff. She:
(a) maintained that it was her business what money she had and where it was and that she was not going to tell anybody;
(b) maintained that she was capable of looking after herself without any assistance;
(c) her money was being looked after by the second Plaintiff's wife;
(d) did not know where her money was deposited or whether it was attracting any interest;
(e) acknowledged that the statement to the Tribunal that her money had been given to a priest "was a definite lie";
(f) sold her house because she needed the money to look after herself; but later said that she did not want to sell it, but, in the end, she had to;
(g) initially described the sale price of her home as " 9,000", then said, "9,000", but later correctly said it was "900,000", which was reduced to "eighty six thousand seventy something";
(h) said that she could not look after the proceeds of sale but could not say why she could not do so; she did not know who was looking after the money now, but thought it was still the second Plaintiff's wife;
(i) stated that she had been given valium in the nursing home (as the second Plaintiff had a tablet tested); (this last assertion was not proved at the hearing);
(j) was in Court "to get everything that was to myself again ... They have taken everything. My bank book, my cheque book, off me and I want to be back to normal";
(k) was able to do most things for herself;
(l) stated that since they had taken away her cheque books, the second Plaintiff would give her "money, pocket money"; the second Plaintiff had paid for her clothes, but that she would have to pay him back;
(m) stated that when she obtained the money back, "I would go into a nurse, get my own private nursing business" meaning that she would employ a private nurse to look after her, if she were not capable, but that she would be capable; she would keep her money somewhere "where [the fourth Defendant] could not get her hands on it";
(n) initially, accepted that the second Plaintiff did not get on with the fourth and fifth Defendants and that this might cause problems, but when asked what those problems might be said there would not be any, because she did not have anything to do with the fourth and fifth Defendants;
(o) maintained that she trusted the second Plaintiff implicitly, but did not trust any of her daughters.
104When I asked the first Plaintiff to describe her day to day routine, she was only able to focus on the events of the last day or so. She described, correctly, that during the case, she had been staying at an hotel with the second Plaintiff and his wife; and that she had done everything to get herself ready to attend court.
105She maintained, repeatedly, that the problems had been caused by the fourth Defendant who continually asked her where the money was. This was stated in the context of the fourth Defendant wanting the money for herself. She did not accept that, perhaps, the fourth Defendant was worried about her. She said that she did not need to know that the fourth Defendant was not seeking to control her (the first Plaintiff's) money. She thought that the fifth Defendant was "being led on" by the fourth Defendant.
106It was clear to me that the first Plaintiff did not have any real idea about her financial affairs. For example, she did not appear to know that the second Plaintiff and his wife was holding a substantial amount of cash that belonged to her and that it was from this fund that her expenses were being, or could be, paid.
107At the end of her evidence, I asked her whether there was anything she wanted to say to me. She answered:
"Oh I could fill a book, I could write a book about what I been through, it would take a long time. In that other nursing home I though I was going to get killed by this other patient and they find out she was suffering with - her name was May Cole, College or something and they moved her but she still come back and worried me and she still kept pushing me into the wall and I bruised all my legs, the front of my legs by hitting the wall."
108On the evidence overall, I am more than satisfied that the first Plaintiff is incapable of managing her affairs. The medical diagnosis of mild to moderate cognitive impairment, including, to a degree, higher level executive impairments, such as higher level judgment and decision making is tolerably clear. There is a need for another person to manage those affairs on the behalf of the first Plaintiff and, in my view, it is in her best interests that the order for the appointment of a financial manager be made.
109I have considered this not merely by reference to the day of the hearing, but in light of the reasonably foreseeable future.
110Based upon all of the evidence, I am also satisfied that the first Plaintiff has a number of disabilities. Because of these, she is at least partially incapable of managing her person and is need of a guardian.
111I turn then to the question of the appointment of the second Plaintiff as the financial manager and guardian.
112I have not forgotten that there is no suggestion of dishonesty against the second Plaintiff and/or his wife. Nor is there a suggestion that moneys have been used inappropriately. I have also seen the Book headed "Mum's Costs and Bills" which was tendered by the second Plaintiff. However, in my view these matters are not enough to establish that the second Plaintiff is a suitable person.
113I was unimpressed by the second Plaintiff. He endeavoured, throughout the cross-examination, to try and distance himself from what had been done following the sale of the first Plaintiff's property. In particular, he asserted, more than once, that his wife had handled the funds and that it was she who had been responsible for the way in which the proceeds of sale had been looked after. His evidence was punctuated by statements such as "I didn't do the banking", or "I didn't deposit the cheque", or "[My wife] would have removed the money not me".
114He stated that he had inspected the bank records that depicted the movement of the funds through various bank accounts to ascertain what had occurred but "I am not very good with all the accounting side of things and I have had an accountant always looking after it ... I have always used accountancy services".
115When the question of the funds being transferred into his sons' accounts was raised, he repeated that it was his wife, not he, who had been responsible for doing this. He later admitted that his wife had told him what she was going to do, although he did not know precisely when it was done. Yet, he accepted that it was he who "probably" signed the cheques necessary to enable the funds to be placed into his sons' accounts.
116Remarkably, one might think, he stated that he did not know about the "anomalies" that had been described to him by counsel for the fourth and fifth Defendants regrading the amounts transferred into, and out of, various accounts until they were raised in cross-examination. He could not explain the apparent delay in having the funds put back into the bank account following him being told that the bulk of those funds had been retained in the safe at his business premises.
117The second Plaintiff accepted that interest on the proceeds of sale had been earned but that it had not been credited to the funds held on behalf of the first Plaintiff. His sons, apparently, retained the interest because the first Plaintiff said that they could do so.
118He also stated that, even though he had received legal advice, he did not know that one of the issues that was being raised by the fourth and fifth Defendants related to the proceeds of sale of the first Plaintiff's home and the circumstances surrounding the receipt, and use, of those proceeds. He later stated that he did know.
119He had accepted, without question, that the bulk of the proceeds of sale of the first Plaintiff's home had been given to a priest. (He and his wife both stated that neither she, nor the first Plaintiff had told him the truth about the funds.) He did not ask his wife, or the first Plaintiff, who the priest was, how much had been given to the priest, or how much had been retained by his wife, although she did tell him that she had retained an amount. He did not enquire whether any receipt had been provided for the money, or how it could be recovered in the event that anything happened to either the first Plaintiff or to his own wife.
120Even after the second Plaintiff found out the truth about where the bulk of the funds were, he did not immediately attempt to take control of those funds.
121In addition, he had reimbursed not only himself, but also one of his sons, out of the first Plaintiff's moneys, for time taken off work to attend the Tribunal, because the first Plaintiff had said to him that she would pay any costs that he incurred. This was despite the fact, that in respect of the Tribunal hearing, he would have attended in any event. To the extent that he would lose wages for his attendance at court, he had, and would charge the first Plaintiff. He said that it did not matter that he was also a named Plaintiff. His explanation that "I am seeking to look after my mother and to restore her rights", whilst possibly true, was not a reasonable justification for recompensing himself and others.
122The second Plaintiff acknowledged that his son had not, in fact, lost wages since the second Plaintiff's company employed him. What had occurred was that the company had paid the wages, but it had been reimbursed out of the first Plaintiff's funds.
123The second Plaintiff also paid moneys to have the sixth Defendant attend the Tribunal proceedings. He paid, or reimbursed himself, moneys paid for the sixth Defendant's attendance, including giving the sixth Defendant $50 for a taxi fare and coffee, without seeing any receipt for that expenditure.
124The second Plaintiff could not offer a satisfactory explanation why, as the first Plaintiff's Centrelink nominee, he did not inform Centrelink of the sale of the first Plaintiff's home until after the Tribunal hearing. His only explanation was that "I hadn't received any paperwork so I didn't have access to the documents I needed". He states that he was looking for "paperwork" but did not identify what was being looked for. He accepted that he could have telephoned Centrelink to inform it of the sale.
125He did not inform any person in authority at the nursing home of the sale of the first Plaintiff's home. He said he informed a "nurse". He acknowledged that he could have written a letter, but did not do it.
126Despite the issue having been raised in the Tribunal, the second Plaintiff stated that he had only looked on the internet "a couple of times in the last 6 or 7 months" to find out what the role of a financial manager was" and that his enquiries had not been extensive. He did not know that the financial manager would be subject to the direction and authority of the NSW Trustee. He did not seem to fully understand the role and responsibilities of a financial manager.
127Finally, in relation to financial matters, the second Plaintiff stated that if he was appointed as the financial manager, he would seek to be remunerated in the same way out of the first Plaintiff's funds as he had been in the past.
128In relation to the fourth and fifth Defendants, the second Plaintiff acknowledged that he had not spoken to the fourth Defendant for some time, and with the fifth Defendant for about 1 year. He said that his relationship with the fourth Defendant was acrimonious, although he got on better with the fifth Defendant. He did not speak at all to the seventh Defendant. He had a good relationship with the sixth Defendant.
129He said that the only sibling he would not contact if he were appointed was the fourth Defendant and that he would leave it to the fifth Defendant to inform her about the first Plaintiff.
130He had not informed any of his siblings that the first Plaintiff had moved into a different nursing home two weeks before the hearing, but had told the nursing staff at the prior nursing home at which she had resided to tell them.
131I have no doubt that the appointment of the second Plaintiff as financial manager and/or guardian, inevitably, would lead to conflict between him and the fourth and fifth Defendants about decisions for the first Plaintiff, since they have been unable to agree on many things surrounding the first Plaintiff. (The conflict between the parties in terms of their different views has continued throughout the current proceedings.) This may put him in an untenable position were he to attempt to preserve his relationship with, at least, the fifth Defendant. Their relationship is reasonable although clearly not close. That conflict would ensure that any relationship he has, or had, with the fourth Defendant, is destroyed forever.
132Alternatively, it is highly unlikely that he will seek, or take into account, any views expressed by any of his siblings. It would not assist the first Plaintiff to have conflicts between her children overshadow decisions being made in her interests.
133Although it may be unnecessary to say anything about the second Plaintiff's wife, I should point out that I find her explanation for lying to the Tribunal unpersuasive. Whilst she may not have been giving evidence under oath at the Tribunal, to have lied to the members, whose task was to consider the best interests of the first Plaintiff, because she had been asked to by the first Plaintiff not to disclose what had happened to the funds is hardly commendable. It seems to me, that she, like the second Plaintiff, is not prepared to accept the cognitive disabilities of the first Plaintiff and objectively consider what is in her best interests.
134I conclude, despite the views of the first Plaintiff, that in all the circumstances I have outlined, the second Plaintiff is not a suitable person to be appointed the financial manager of the first Plaintiff's estate. I am of the view that her estate should be committed to the management of the NSW Trustee.
135I conclude, also, that the appointment of the Public Guardian as an independent guardian is needed in order to ensure the best interests of the first Plaintiff are advanced.
136Thus, whichever way one considers this case, the conclusions and reached and orders made by the Tribunal are correct.
137I therefore:
(a) Order that leave is refused for the appeal.
Order that the decision of the Guardianship Tribunal that the estate of the first Plaintiff be subject to management and that management of the estate be committed to the NSW Trustee is affirmed.
(c) Order that the decision of the Guardianship Tribunal that the first Plaintiff be placed under guardianship and that her guardian be the Public Guardian is affirmed.
(d) Order that the Summons be dismissed.
(e) Order that the Exhibits be dealt with in accordance with the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules.
138I have not heard any argument on costs. If the parties are unable to agree, that matter may be re-listed for argument.