[2025] NSWCATOD 125
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NCAT Occupational
2025-09-10
Armstrong J
Original judgment source is linked above.
The Application of FXI under s 121 of the Legal Profession Uniform Law (NSW) [2024] NSWCATOD 6
Council of the Law Society of New South Wales (Interested party)
V Griswold (Council of the Law Society of New South Wales) (Interested party)
121 Contravention by law practice - disqualified or convicted person as lay associate
(1) A law practice contravenes this subsection if the law practice has a lay associate whom any principal or other legal practitioner associate of the law practice knows to be-
(a) a disqualified person; or
(b) a person who has been convicted of a serious offence-
unless the lay associate is approved by the designated local regulatory authority under subsection (2).
Penalty: 100 penalty units.
(2) The designated local regulatory authority may, on application, approve a person as a lay associate for the purposes of this section. An approval may be given generally, or for a particular position or category of positions with a particular law practice, or for a particular category of positions with any law practice.
(3) In dealing with an application for approval of a person as a lay associate, the designated local regulatory authority may consider any relevant matters and must consider the following matters so far as they are relevant-
(a) the nature and circumstances of the person's disqualification or conviction;
(b) the requirements and responsibilities of the arrangement or kind of arrangement under which the person is seeking to be employed or otherwise involved;
(c) the degree of connection between the person's disqualification or conviction and the requirements and responsibilities of the arrangement or kind of arrangement.
(4) An approval may be granted unconditionally or subject to specified the conditions.
Note:
The designated local regulatory authority could consider a person's application for approval as a lay associate at the same time as it decides not to grant or renew, or decides to suspend or cancel, the person's Australian practising certificate.
(a) an associate of the law practice; or
(b) a consultant to the law practice (however described) who provides services related to legal services to the law practice, other than services of a kind specified in the Uniform Rules for the purposes of this definition; or
(c) a person who shares the receipts, revenue or other income arising from the law practice.
"Pursuant to S 121(2) of the Legal Profession Uniform Law (NSW), [the Applicant] is approved to be a lay associate of any New South Wales law practice either generally or on such conditions as the Tribunal sees fit."
(1) The affidavit of the Applicant dated 23 April 2025 - Exhibit A1 (Ex A1).
(2) Letter dated 25 June 2025 from Dr N Nasrin of the Broadmeadow Medical Centre - Exhibit A2 (Ex A2).
(3) Letter dated 12 July 2025 from Dr A Searle of the Broadmeadow Medical Centre - Exhibit A3 (Ex A3).
(4) A document from the University of Newcastle, with the title "LLB and JD Practice Program Student Handbook 2024" - Exhibit A4 (Ex A4).
(1) In February 2020 the Applicant commenced study of a Bachelor of Laws (Honours)/Bachelor of Business combined degree at the University of Newcastle. We add that the academic transcript attached to the affidavit demonstrates that the Applicant is a capable student.
(2) On 15 February 2021 the Applicant consumed the substance known as lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD). His evidence was that prior to this occasion, he had consumed LSD with no resulting incidents of violence or psychosis. However, on this occasion he mistakenly consumed a dosage much greater than anything he had consumed before. Hours later he developed psychosis. He has limited memory of events which occurred but accepts the accuracy of the police facts sheet relating to his arrest by the police on the same day. Essentially what happened was that he went from his place of residence in Newcastle to a neighbouring suburb approximately a kilometre away and engaged in a series of violent, aggressive and irrational acts.
(3) The police facts sheet contains details of the acts then undertaken by the Applicant. First, the Applicant went to a home and damaged property. Second, he went to another home and struck the front door bending it out of shape. Third, he went to a third home and tackled an occupant to the ground as well as punching that person causing injury. He then ran through the premises on that property, damaging a security screen door on his way out. Shortly thereafter he punched and injured a police officer who was attempting to arrest him. He was sprayed with capsicum spray by another police officer and was wrestled to the ground.
(4) He was taken to hospital for injuries sustained during the incident and upon waking up in hospital on 16 February 2021, he was transferred to a police station and charged with several offences relating to the events of the previous day.
(1) He had been given the LSD at a party. He had taken it home and had ingested it some weeks after the party whilst at home on his own.
(2) He thinks he may have taken a quantity of LSD far in excess of the amount he had taken on prior occasions because the sleeves of paper containing the substance may have "moulded together" in his cupboard in the weeks since he obtained the LSD.
(3) He is extremely remorseful, particularly as he has affected the lives of others. The Applicant wrote letters of apology to the victims and to the police, which his solicitor arranged to be delivered to the recipients. These letters are annexed to his affidavit (Ex A1).
(4) He reaffirmed his commitment not to take illicit drugs ever again.
(5) He has been seeing a doctor (a GP) for insomnia and anxiety and, as a result, has also seen a psychologist and psychiatrist. He has been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD ) and has been prescribed with medication to manage that condition. As a result of the medication he feels that he is able to think much more clearly and calmly than he had been before. We add that the letter from Dr Searle (Ex A3) confirms that the Applicant has ADHD and states she has no concerns "around drug addiction or mental health diagnoses that may limit [the Applicant's] ability to practice in his chosen profession." Dr Searle's letter states she has been the Applicant's GP for 25 years.
(a) the nature and circumstances of the person's disqualification or conviction;
(b) the requirements and responsibilities of the arrangement or kind of arrangement under which the person is seeking to be employed or otherwise involved;
(c) the degree of connection between the person's disqualification or conviction and the requirements and responsibilities of the arrangement or kind of arrangement.
(1) McCowan v the Council of the Law Society of NSW [2014] NSWCATOD 44 (McCowan);
(2) Hill v Council of the Law Society of NSW [2017] NSWCATOD 164;
(3) Fox v Law Society of New South Wales [2018] NSWCATOD 164; and
(4) Application of Gale [2023] NSWCATOD 125.
(1) The Applicant has the onus of establishing that, as at the date of the hearing that the Applicant is a fit and proper person to have further association with the profession as a lay associate, is of sufficient character for this purpose, has demonstrated insight and understanding of his wrongful actions and how his conduct fell below the standards of behaviour expected and that he has expressed remorse for his actions and rehabilitated himself: McCowan at [69].
(2) The primary issue was whether the protection of the public will be compromised and whether the integrity of the legal profession would be damaged: FXI at [60].
(3) Section 121 may involve applying a lower standard than those that would apply in connection with an application to be a legal practitioner: FXI at [70].
Criminal Records and Direction for Post-Hearing Submissions
125 Spent convictions
This Part has effect subject to any applicable jurisdictional legislation relating to spent convictions (however described).
12 What are the consequences of a conviction becoming spent?
If a conviction of a person is spent-
(a) the person is not required to disclose to any other person for any purpose information concerning the spent conviction, and
(b) a question concerning the person's criminal history is taken to refer only to any convictions of the person which are not spent, and
(c) in the application to the person of a provision of an Act or statutory instrument-
(i) a reference in the provision to a conviction is taken to be a reference only to any convictions of the person which are not spent, and
(ii) a reference in the provision to the person's character or fitness is not to be interpreted as permitting or requiring account to be taken of spent convictions.
(a) the person has not been convicted of an offence punishable by imprisonment; and
(b) the person has not been imprisoned because of a conviction for any offence and has not been unlawfully at large: s 9(1).
8 When is a conviction spent?
(1) A conviction is spent on completion of the relevant crime-free period, except as provided by this section.
(2) A finding that an offence has been proved, or that a person is guilty of an offence, without proceeding to a conviction is spent immediately after the finding is made, except as provided by this section.
(3) An order of the Children's Court dismissing a charge and administering a caution is spent immediately after the caution is administered.
(4) A finding that an offence has been proved, or that a person is guilty of an offence, and -
(a) the discharging of, or the making of an order releasing, the offender conditionally on entering into a good behaviour bond for a specified period, on participating in an intervention program or on other conditions determined by the court, or
(b) the releasing of the offender on probation on such conditions as the court may determine, for such period of time as it thinks fit, or
(c) the making of a conditional release order, without conviction, under section 9 of the Crimes (Sentencing Procedure) Act 1999, for a specified period,
is spent on satisfactory completion of the period or satisfactory compliance with the program (including any intervention plan arising out of the program) or conditions, as the case may require.
(5) A conviction in respect of an offence of a kind which has ceased, by operation of law, to be an offence is spent immediately the offence ceased to be an offence, if the offence is prescribed by the regulations to be an offence to which this subsection applies.
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(4) A finding that an offence has been proved, or that a person is guilty of an offence, and -
(a) the discharging of, or the making of an order releasing, the offender conditionally on entering into a good behaviour bond for a specified period, on participating in an intervention program or on other conditions determined by the court, or
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is spent on satisfactory completion of the period or satisfactory compliance with the program (including any intervention plan arising out of the program) or conditions, as the case may require.
[our emphasis]
"(a) The approval has effect from the date that it is granted until the date that is 24 months from the date that it is granted;
(b) Whilst acting as a lay associate, [the Applicant]:
i. must be supervised by an Australian lawyer who holds a current practising certificate; and
ii. if the supervising Australian lawyer is a solicitor, may be supervised by that solicitor only if the solicitor holds a current practising certificate which authorises the holder to supervise the work of others;
(c) in addition to his obligations under s 122(1) of the [Uniform Law] to inform the law practice of his convictions prior to becoming a lay associate, the Applicant must, prior to becoming a lay associate provide both the principal of any law practice in which he works and any legal practitioner directly responsible for his supervision, a copy of the Tribunal's written reasons for decision in these proceedings;
(d) [The Applicant] must provide proof of compliance with conditions (b) and (c) above to:
i. in the case of a lay associate's engagement with a solicitor, the Director, Legal Regulation of the Law Society of New South Wales; and
ii. in the case of a lay associate engagement with a barrister, the Director, Professional Conduct of the New South Wales Bar Association,
within seven days of becoming a lay associate of any New South Wales law practice;
(e) [The Applicant] must notify the Director, Legal Regulation of the Law Society of New South Wales, and the Director, Professional Conduct of the New South Wales Bar Association, of the occurrence of any future matter or event which might adversely affect his suitability to be a lay associate (including any criminal charges brought against him) within seven days of its occurrence."
(1) The nature and circumstances of the Applicant's convictions are of the kind that are extremely unlikely to be repeated. We are of the opinion that the Applicant has learned a harsh and memorable lesson. As a result, he has committed not to consume illicit drugs and not to place himself at risk of such behaviour again.
(2) Having regard to the conditions which we intend to impose, we are satisfied that the requirements and responsibilities of the Applicant's proposed arrangements to be a lay associate will not involve any risk to the public. In other words, we are satisfied that the appropriate protection of the public will not be compromised and nor will the integrity of the law or of the legal profession be compromised.
(3) In our view there is no immediate or direct connection between the Applicant's conviction and the requirements and responsibilities of the proposed arrangements to be a lay associate.
3 Objectives
The objectives of this Law are to promote the administration of justice and an efficient and effective Australian legal profession, by -
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(c) enhancing the protection of clients of law practices and the protection of the public generally;
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(1) Pursuant to s 121(2) of the Legal Profession Uniform Law (NSW) (Uniform Law), the Applicant, Jacob Elijah Gribble, is approved to be a lay associate of any New South Wales law practice on the conditions set out below in Order 2.
(2) The following conditions are attached to this approval:
(a) The approval has effect from the date that it is granted until the date that is 24 months from the date that it is granted.
(b) Whilst acting as a lay associate, the Applicant:
(i) must be supervised by an Australian lawyer who holds a current practising certificate; and
(ii) if the supervising Australian lawyer is a solicitor, may be supervised by that solicitor only if the solicitor holds a current practising certificate which authorises the holder to supervise the work of others.
(c) In addition to his obligations under s 122(1) of the Uniform Law to inform the law practice of his convictions prior to becoming a lay associate, the Applicant must, prior to becoming a lay associate provide both the principal of any law practice in which he works and any legal practitioner directly responsible for his supervision a copy of the Tribunal's written reasons for decision in these proceedings.
(d) The Applicant must provide proof of compliance with conditions (b) and (c) above to:
(i) in the case of a lay associate's engagement with a solicitor, the Director, Legal Regulation of the Law Society of New South Wales; and
(ii) in the case of a lay associate engagement with a barrister, the Director, Professional Conduct of the New South Wales Bar Association,
within seven days of becoming a lay associate of any New South Wales law practice.
(e) The Applicant must notify the Director, Legal Regulation of the Law Society of New South Wales, and the Director, Professional Conduct of the New South Wales Bar Association, of the occurrence of any future matter or event which might adversely affect his suitability to be a lay associate (including any criminal charges brought against him) within seven days of its occurrence.
I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales.
Application of Gale [2023] NSWCATOD 125
Council of the Law Society of New South Wales v Parente [2019] NSWCA 33
Fox v Law Society of New South Wales [2018] NSWCATOD 164
Hill v the Council of the Law Society of NSW [2017] NSWCATOD 164
McCowan v Council of the Law Society of NSW [2014] NSWCATOD 44
McGirr & Anor v the Council of the Law Society of NSW [2014] NSWCATOD 154
Prothonotary of the Supreme Court of New South Wales v Thomson [2018] NSWCA 230