© 2026 Zoe. All rights reserved.
Zoe is a legal information platform. Always consult the Federal Register of Legislation for authoritative text.
[2020] QCAT 360
procedural. Form 1 Claim filed 22 May 2009 dismissed for lack of jurisdiction because (a) it was not a claim for a debt or liquidated demand of money, and (b) the respondent was not a 'trader' as defined in s...
Mr Amos sued a costs assessor, Mr Walter, in the old Small Claims Tribunal claiming he was overcharged. When the SCT merged into QCAT the old file was misplaced and resurfaced in 2020. QCAT (Adjudicator Walsh) dismissed the claim for lack of jurisdiction. The Tribunal held that (1) costs assessors carry out a specialist, regulated discipline that is not ordinarily trade or commerce and so are not 'traders' under the small-claims legislation; and (2) alleged overcharging by a costs assessor does not become a liquidated debt until adjusted by a court or similar process, so the claim was not a recoverable minor debt. Therefore the Tribunal could not hear the dispute and dismissed the claim (see [97], [115]–[121], [124]).
AI-generated legal information, not legal advice. Zoe can make mistakes. Check the cited source, and for advice about your situation consult a qualified Australian lawyer.
1,726 words · generated 29/08/2026
Mr Amos lodged a Form 1 Claim in the Small Claims Tribunal (SCT) on 22 May 2009 alleging that Mr Walter, a costs assessor, had overcharged him for costs assessments and for providing reasons. The sum claimed was $2,462.50, made up of alleged overcharges for assessor's fees and for preparing reasons ([10]–[14]). The SCT initially dismissed the claim for want of jurisdiction at a July 2009 hearing, then granted a rehearing on 29 July 2009. Administrative failure meant the SCT file was not transferred to QCAT when the tribunal systems merged; the file remained archived until QCAT located it in May 2020 after Mr Amos contacted the registry. QCAT then directed submissions limited to the jurisdiction point and, on paper, Adjudicator Alan Walsh dismissed the claim on 11 September 2020 for lack of jurisdiction ([31]–[36], [36]–[48], [3]–[5], [124]).
No linked legislation citations have been extracted yet.
The dismissal rested on two principal conclusions: (1) a costs assessor is not a 'trader' for the purposes of the SCT Act and Schedule 3 of the QCAT Act because the assessor acts in a discipline not ordinarily regarded as within trade or commerce; and (2) the claim did not constitute a debt or a liquidated demand of money such as to fall within QCAT's minor debt jurisdiction ([97]–[101], [112]–[121]). The adjudicator also noted, as background, that costs assessors enjoy statutory immunities when performing court-appointed functions ([56]–[57], [101]).
Three statutory and conceptual points drove the decision.
Statutory structure of 'trader' and the exception. The SCT Act defined 'small claim' by reference to contracts between consumers and traders. Importantly, s 4(2) of the SCT Act (replicated in Schedule 3 of the QCAT Act) contains an exception: a person is not a 'trader' in respect of goods or services if the person acts in a discipline not ordinarily regarded as within trade or commerce ([68]–[71], [85]). The adjudicator read that exception broadly: if the supplier acts in a regulated specialist discipline, the supplier falls outside the 'trader' label.
Nature of costs assessment. The adjudicator examined the office and function of a costs assessor: eligibility criteria under the UCPR (Chapter 17A), statutory regulation of the process, formal appointment by courts, the need for specialist expertise and a discretionary evaluative function in quantifying allowable costs ([104]–[111]). These features, in the tribunal's view, mark costs assessment as a specialist discipline outside ordinary trade/commercial activity.
Liquidated demand principle. A liquidated demand or minor debt requires an ascertainable fixed sum. The adjudicator emphasised that costs do not 'assess themselves'; assessing costs entails discretion and judgment. Consequently, claims about overcharging or for reduction of a costs assessor's fees are not liquidated sums until a competent court alters the figure. Thus the claim was not a debt or liquidated demand that QCAT's minor debt jurisdiction could entertain ([115]–[121]).
Finally, the adjudicator recognised the legal position of QCAT as successor to the SCT and that section 271(2)(b) limits QCAT to making decisions the former tribunal could have made; accordingly QCAT could only exercise the SCT's jurisdiction in deciding the existing SCT proceeding ([81]–[85], [83]).
These elements together meant that Mr Amos' proceedings were not within the statutory remit of the SCT (or, by succession, QCAT) and had to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction ([97], [124]).
Before: The SCT had jurisdiction to hear certain consumer-trader disputes for relatively low monetary amounts (historically up to $7,500), while the Magistrates Court handled simplified minor debt claims under the UCPR. The QCAT Act consolidated and increased monetary thresholds and took over the SCT's functions in respect of consumer-trader small claims, and also absorbed some minor debt jurisdiction functions formerly in the Magistrates Court (see the legislative provisions summarised at [66]–[76], [81]–[90]).
This decision reinforces the established QCAT/SCT line of authority treating specialised, regulated professions and disciplines as falling outside the statutory 'trader' definition. The adjudicator collected prior QCAT and QCATA decisions that had treated medical professionals, accountants, auditors, valuers, architects, and others as not being 'traders' under the relevant statutes ([100]). By analogical reasoning, costs assessors were placed in the same category.
After: The decision stands as authority within QCAT's jurisdictional jurisprudence that costs assessors are not 'traders' for small-claims purposes and that complaints about assessor fees are not liquidated demands until subject to court adjustment. It clarifies that such disputes are not justiciable in the minor civil dispute jurisdiction of QCAT and must be pursued in the proper forum, typically under the UCPR mechanisms and courts that supervise costs assessments ([112]–[121]).
Statutory exception text ([69]): Quote: "A person who ... shall not be a trader ... if in supplying those goods or providing those services ... the person acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce." Plain English: The law says some people who appear to sell services are not treated as 'traders' when those services are part of a specialist discipline (for example, they require regulated expertise and are not ordinary commercial services).
Central finding ([97]): Quote: "I find that a costs assessor is (and was) not a trader ... because a costs assessor acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade and commerce." Plain English: The Tribunal decided that the role of a costs assessor is a specialist, regulated function, not just a normal commercial service, so the assessor is not a 'trader' under the small-claims laws.
Why costs assessments are specialist ([110]): Quote: "Costs assessment is thus a discipline which is unique and specialist in nature ... requires a prerequisite high degree of specialist skill ... involves a formal process of appointment ..." Plain English: Assessing legal costs requires high-level expertise, is governed by detailed rules, and assessors are formally appointed, these features mean it is a specialist activity, not general commerce.
Liquidated demand point ([115]): Quote: "Therefore, until completion of a costs assessment, the quantum of costs payable by one person to another cannot be characterised as a liquidated demand of money or a debt." Plain English: Because decisions about allowable costs involve judgement and discretion, the amount owed is not a fixed, automatically-ascertainable figure until the assessment or court decision is final.
If a dispute involves an ordinary market-facing service provider (for example, a tradie, a retailer, or other classic commercial supplier) and the claim is for a readily identifiable unpaid sum or liquidated demand, the small-claims or minor-debt jurisdiction may still be available.
This decision expressly aligns with a line of QCAT/QCATA decisions treating specialist regulated professions as non-traders for the purpose of small-claims jurisdiction ([100] and cited cases). The adjudicator collected authority across a range of professions to show consistent tribunal practice, and he relied on Graham v Legal Services Commissioner (No 2) [2014] QCA 306 for a detailed account of costs assessment processes ([107]). The judgment does not purport to overrule any higher court decisions; rather it applies and synthesises tribunal precedents and statutory interpretation. Where higher courts (e.g. Court of Appeal decisions cited concerning the Amos–Monsour litigation) deal with costs-assessment matters substantively, those remain the correct forums for review of costs assessments.
Practitioners should note that QCAT's capacity to entertain transferred SCT matters is constrained by s 271(2)(b), so the tribunal's pre-existing jurisprudence on 'trader' definitions remains the touchstone in similar transferred proceedings ([83]–[85]).
This analysis is a plain-English, textual and jurisprudential distillation of Adjudicator Alan Walsh's reasons in Amos v Walter [2020] QCAT 360. I can assist to extract timelines, a short checklist of evidence that would be relevant in a court review of a costs assessment, or draft questions to pose to a lawyer about next steps. I can also prepare a first-draft chronology or outline of the arguments used on jurisdiction, noting at the outset: I can make you a first draft. Treat it as a starting point, not legal advice. Before you send it, sign it, file it, or rely on it, get a qualified Australian lawyer to check it.
This is general legal information, not legal advice. I can make mistakes. Before you act on this, rely on it, or use any draft, get a qualified Australian lawyer to check it.
This matter was heard and determined on the papers pursuant to s 32 of the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld)
(a) the Tribunal intended to consider whether an Application filed by Mr Amos in the Small Claims Tribunal should be dismissed pursuant to s 47 of the QCAT Act on the basis that it is not within jurisdiction and therefore misconceived.
(b) the parties file and exchange written submissions by 4:00pm on 12 June 2020 and that, unless otherwise ordered, the Tribunal decide on the papers and without an oral hearing whether the Application should be dismissed.
(a) It is not a claim for a debt or liquidated demand for money; and
(b) The Respondent is and was not a trader as defined in section 5(2) of the Small Claims Tribunal Act 1973 (Qld).
(a) He was an approved costs assessor appointed under the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 (Qld).
(b) He was appointed to assess the costs in the matter pursuant to the Order of Justice McMurdo P dated 4 February 2008.
(c) He had assessed the costs payable by Mr Amos to Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd pursuant to the Order of the Court of Appeal dated 24 July 2007 in the amount of $17,201.60 made up of professional fees of $7,201.20 and disbursements of $10,000.40 which included his fees payable by Mr Amos.
I will soon be 80 and as you would appreciate I would like this matter to be resolved in my lifetime.
(a) In paragraph [1], that he was appointed as a costs assessor by the Registrar of the Supreme Court to the interim panel of costs assessors pursuant to the interim arrangements for costs assessment in accordance with Practice Direction 7 of 2007 made by the Chief Justice of Queensland on 28 June 2007.
(b) In paragraph [2], that following amendments to the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 (the UCPR) effective 10 December 2008, he applied to the Registrar of the Supreme Court in accordance with rule 743K of the UCPR for appointment as a costs assessor under the amended rules and that he was so appointed pursuant to rule 743L on 20 February 2008.
(c) In paragraph [3], that his appointment as a costs assessor was current and, for purposes of Chapter 17A of the UCPR, he was an Assessing Registrar as defined by rule 679 of the UCPR.
(d) In paragraph [4], that he never ceased to hold the office of costs assessor between his initial appointment under the interim arrangements and his subsequent formal appointment under the new rule 743L, confirmed by an email from Deputy Registrar of the Supreme Court, Joelle Lenz, dated 27 April 2009 attached to the submissions.
(e) In paragraph [5], that the status of his application to the Court for registration as a costs assessor in accordance with rule 743K of the UCPR was disclosed to Mr Amos' solicitors, Keller Nall and Brown, in a letter dated 22 January 2008 which enclosed the original of his signed Consent to appointment as costs assessor in the Court of Appeal proceeding.
(f) In paragraph [6], that, by Order of the District Court of Queensland in BD 2347/2005 per Judge Wilson DCJ made on 1 November 2007, he was appointed to assess costs payable by Mr Amos to Monsour as Respondent pursuant to an Order of Judge Nase DCJ made on 2 November 2006.
(g) In paragraph [7], that, by Order of the District Court of Queensland in proceedings BD 2347/2005 per Judge Martin SC DCJ made on 14 January 2008, he was appointed to assess the costs payable by the Appellant (Amos) to Monsour pursuant to the order of Wilson DCJ made 1 November 2007.
(h) In paragraph [8], that, by Order of the Court of Appeal in CA9984/2006 made 4 February 2008, he was appointed to assess the costs payable by the Appellant (Amos) to Monsour pursuant to the Order of the Court of Appeal (McMurdo P, Wilson J and Lyons J) made 24 July 2007.
(i) In paragraph [9], that his assessments of costs in those matters were completed and certified by him as costs assessor by Certificates in CA9984/06 dated 6 June 2008, BD22347/2005 (costs order dated 2 November 2006) dated 13 March 2009, and BD2347/2005 (costs order dated 1 November 2007) dated 13 March 2009.
(j) In paragraph [10], that his account for his costs assessor's fees in conducting the assessments was forwarded to the Respondent (Monsour's) solicitors Messrs McInnes Wilson and Jensen dated 6 June 2008 for a total of $4,875.00 comprising $2,000.00 for the Court of Appeal Assessment, $2,125.00 for the District Court costs assessment (Order dated 2 November 2006) and $750.00 for the District Court costs assessment (Order 1 November 2007).
(k) In paragraph [11], that, by letter dated 19 June 2008, the Appellant's solicitors (for Mr Amos) sought reasons for his decision in respect of the costs assessment in the Court of Appeal proceeding.
(l) In paragraph [12], that his reasons for the decision in respect of the Court of Appeal proceeding were prepared and subsequently delivered to the parties under cover of his letter dated 12 March 2009, accompanied by his account for $1,650.00 addressed to the Appellant (Amos).
(m) In paragraph [13], that the Respondent's solicitors (for Monsour) paid his costs assessor's accounts dated 6 June 2008 and 12 March 2009.
(n) In paragraph [14], that, by facsimile letter dated 25 March 2009, the Appellant's solicitors (for Amos) requested his reasons for decision in respect of his two assessments in the District Court proceedings.
(o) In paragraph [15], that he drafted the requested reasons and informed the parties' solicitors by letter dated 27 March 2009 of the fact and enclosed his account for $1,925 addressed to the Appellant (Amos), whose solicitors had requested the reasons, himself requesting pre-payment before delivery.
(p) In paragraph [16], that, by Application for Review of Costs Assessor's Certificate of Assessment filed by the Appellant (Amos) in the Court of Appeal proceeding on 26 March 2009, Mr Amos sought to have the Court of Appeal review his Certificate of Costs Assessor dated 12 March 2009 in the sum of $16,338.00.
(q) In paragraph [17], that the Appellant's Application for Review was apparently resolved by Order of the Court made by consent on 15 May 2009 following negotiation between the parties.
(r) In paragraph [18], that, by facsimile letter dated 3 June 2009, the Appellant's solicitors (for Amos) requested copies of Mr Walter's "marked up" costs statements in respect of his two assessments.
(s) In paragraph [19], that, by facsimile letter dated 4 June 2009 to the parties, Mr Walter informed them that the requested copies would be supplied upon payment of his fees for providing the material, assessed at $183.15 in accordance with the District Court Scale of Costs and upon payment of his costs for drafting reasons dated 27 March 2009.
(t) In paragraph [20], that those fees were not paid.
(u) In paragraph [21], that the Appellant (Amos) had not paid the outstanding account for Mr Walter's reasons in respect of the two assessments in the District Court action.
(v) In paragraph [22], that the assessment of costs payable or to be assessed under, inter alia, an Order of a Court in Queensland was regulated by the UCPR and in particular, Chapter 17A (rules 678 to 743).
(w) In paragraph [23], that, in performing his functions as a costs assessor pursuant to Orders of the Court of Appeal and the District Court, he enjoyed the same protection and immunity as a judge performing the functions of a judge, namely, in terms of (the then) section 93LA(1) of the Supreme Court of Queensland Act 1991 (Qld) to that effect.
(x) In paragraph [24], that, in summary, Mr Amos' claim against him was for a refund of costs assessor's fees for assessments completed by Mr Walter in accordance with the UCPR in the Court of Appeal and in the District Court.
(y) He referred in paragraph [25] to the SCT's jurisdiction under the SCT Act and, in paragraph [26] said that, according to section 4 of the SCT Act, a claimant is defined inter alia as:
(i) A consumer in relation to a small claim that arises out of a contract with a trader.
(ii) A trader in relation to a small claim arising out a contract between traders.
(z) He said in paragraph [27] that, according to section 4 of the SCT Act, a small claim means:
A claim for payment of money of a value not exceeding the prescribed amount or for relief from such payment or a combination of the two that in any case arises out of a contract for a supply of goods or provision of services between a consumer and a trader.
(aa) In paragraph [28], he referred to section 2(e) and (f) of the SCT Act and that the Tribunal may make an order that dismisses a claim or that a claim be struck out for want of jurisdiction.
(bb) In paragraph [29], he said that he undertook the cost assessment work in accordance with his appointment as a costs assessor under the UCPR.
(cc) In paragraph [30], he said that he is entitled to protection and immunity from suit.
(dd) In paragraph [31], he said that the UCPR provides the mechanism for review of a cost assessor's work, including for review by the Court from which a particular costs assessment has its genesis.
(ee) In paragraph [32], in respect of his Court of Appeal costs assessment, he said that Mr Amos had exhausted his remedies for a costs assessment review as a result of orders made by consent by the Court of Appeal on 15 May 2009.
(ff) In paragraph [33], he said that Mr Amos then still had available a right of review by a Court as prescribed by rule 742 of the UCPR in respect of two District Court costs assessments performed by Mr Walter.
(gg) In paragraph [34], he said that Mr Amos was not one of the class of persons defined as a claimant in section 4(1)(a) to (f) of the SCT Act.
(hh) In paragraph [35], he said that the claim was not a small claim within the class of claims defined in that section.
(ii) In paragraph [36], he said that the SCT Act had no application to costs assessments or to his function as a costs assessor under the UCPR or to the costs assessment fees paid or payable to him arising from his work as a costs assessor.
(jj) In paragraph [37], he said that Mr Amos had wrongly filed his claim under the SCT Act in circumstances where not only were his rights concerning assessment of costs regulated by the UCPR but also where, in the case of two District Court costs assessments, Mr Amos' rights of review under the UCPR had not been exhausted by him.
(kk) In paragraph [38], that Mr Amos' claim had therefore to be dismissed for want of jurisdiction.
Yes, I can confirm that as far as the Registrar is concerned, you retained the status of costs assessor in the period after 10 December 2007 pending your formal approval as a costs assessor under the new Rule (743L).
The interim arrangements which permitted 'external' costs assessors to be appointed by the Courts were valid under Practice Direction 7 of 2007, which was issued in June 2007. This Practice Direction was repealed in December 2008.
(a) At paragraph [5], that the definition of "minor civil dispute" in Schedule 3 of the QCAT Act "reinforces" his submissions.
(b) At paragraph [6], that the debt allegedly owing was plainly not a claim which is a minor civil dispute.
(c) At paragraph [7], that the alleged claim was, in any event, disputed for the reasons set out in his letter dated 10 June 2019 including that, as a costs assessor, he had immunity from suit.
(d) At paragraph [8], that Mr Amos had no entitlement to proceed with, or revive, his claim by reason of the Order made on 9 July 2009, his submissions in the letter dated 10 June 2009, the delay of 11 years since the dismissal order was made, the vexatious nature of the claim, and prejudice to Mr Walter should it continue.
(e) At paragraph [9], that the Tribunal ought exercise its "jurisdiction" under section 47 of the QCAT Act and dismiss or strike it out.
(f) At paragraph [10], alternatively that the Tribunal ought exercise its "jurisdiction" under section 48 of the QCAT Act with the same result.
(g) At paragraph [11], that the Tribunal ought properly make an order for costs of the proceeding in his favour in an amount fixed by the Tribunal.
(h) At paragraph [12], that he had no current address for Mr Amos; and
(i) At paragraph [13], that if the claim continued, he would be obliged to obtain independent representation on the High Court authority of Bell Lawyers Pty Ltd v Pentelow [2019] HCA 29, 4 September 2019.
(a) the Senior Member's direction dated 25 May 2020 confined the tribunal and parties to the issue of whether Mr Amos' claim should be dismissed pursuant to section 47 of the QCAT Act.
(b) Thus, I could not traverse Mr Walter's submission that the claim should also be dismissed pursuant to section 48 of the QCAT Act (see paragraph [10] of his submissions in the letter dated 5 June 2020).
(c) Mr Walter's submissions in paragraphs [12] and [13] of that letter were irrelevant for present purposes.
(d) Lamentably,[5] insofar as the submission in paragraph [11] of Mr Walter's letter dated 5 June 2020 is relevant, no costs are recoverable by a successful Respondent such as Mr Walter in the minor civil dispute jurisdiction of this Tribunal.
(e) That is so regardless of whether an Applicant has abused the process of the tribunal, or acted frivolously or vexatiously, using up the tribunal's limited material and temporal resources and causing unnecessary inconvenience to a Respondent, for which there is no material deterrence in the QCAT Act and rules.
(a) At paragraph [4], that the merits of the claim were not to be considered because the question posed by the Tribunal went to jurisdiction only.
I accept that whether, as a costs assessor, Mr Walter overcharged for his costs assessments and reasons was not a matter that could be adjudicated on the merits in considering and ruling on the objection to jurisdiction.
(b) At paragraph [5], that, when the claim was filed originally, the SCT operated from within the Magistrates Court system and had jurisdiction over claims of up to $7,500.00 between consumers and traders and between traders.[6]
(c) At paragraph [6], that claims to recover a debt or liquidated demand of money where the amount involved no more $7,500.00 could be dealt with by the Magistrates Court under the simplified procedure for Minor Debt Claims provided by the UCPR.[7]
(d) At paragraph [7], that, once QCAT was formed as from 1 December 2009, it took over both the jurisdiction of the Small Claims Tribunal and the Minor Debt Claims jurisdiction of the Magistrates Court.[8]
I accept that submission but refer to my analysis of the relevant statutory provisions of the SCT Act and the QCAT Act later in these reasons.
(e) At paragraph [8], that Mr Amos' claim, correctly characterised, was one for a refund or "in a more legal sense, restitution of certain monies paid to the Respondent for not more than the prescribed amount."
Correctly characterised, Mr Amos' claim was, for the reasons I will give later, an unliquidated demand of money for less than the prescribed amount for alleged overcharge/s by Mr Walter for his costs assessment services.
(f) At paragraph [9], that this Tribunal had jurisdiction to hear and decide this matter pursuant to sections 11 and 12 of the QCAT Act as a claim to recover a debt.
I reject that submission for the reasons to which I will refer later.
(g) At paragraph [10], that Mr Amos' claim, correctly characterised, was a liquidated demand of money within the meaning of s 12(4)(a) of the QCAT Act.[9]
I reject that submission for the reasons to which I will refer later.
(h) At paragraph [11], that the Tribunal ought not consider the merits of the claim to decide whether it falls within s 12(4)(a) of the QCAT Act but rather must consider the claim on its face for $2,462.50 as a refund as particularised.
I accept the submission that the Tribunal could not adjudicate the merits of the claim for refund of money but I reject the balance of the submission insofar as it implied that the Tribunal had jurisdiction to adjudicate the claim on its merits at a trial.
Neither the SCT nor QCAT had jurisdiction for the reasons I will refer to later.
(i) At paragraph [12], that, "to the extent that any procedural requirements had not been complied with, the Tribunal may waive compliance."[10]
This submission was vague and cryptic. It did not articulate what (if any) procedural requirements had not been complied with and, therefore, what compliance waiver was, or might be, sought by Mr Amos.
It therefore did not warrant further consideration.
(j) At paragraph [13], that, if the Tribunal did not accept that it had jurisdiction to hear and decide the matter as a minor civil dispute, it was nevertheless a consumer and trader dispute between the parties as such.
In principle, I accept that Mr Amos was at the relevant time a consumer but, for the reasons to which I will refer later, I reject the implication that Mr Walter was at the time (and is) a "trader."
It follows that I reject the submission that Mr Amos' claim is a minor civil dispute between a consumer and trader.
(k) At paragraph [14], that a contract for the provision of services comprehends a contract which calls for the doing of a positive physical act which can be appropriately categorised as services[11] and that, while a solicitor does not fall within the definition of "trader,"[12] the Respondent was not contracted to perform the role of a solicitor.
In principle, I accept that the activity of costs assessing is a service which may arise from a contract for the service and I accept that a solicitor is not a "trader' according to case precedent.
I accept that Mr Walter was not contracted to undertake costs assessments and provide reasons in his capacity as a solicitor.
Mr Walter's status and appointment as a costs assessor did however require that he be a solicitor of at least five years' standing and that is a relevant consideration to which I will return later.
(ii) A person is eligible for appointment as a costs assessor only if the person is an Australian lawyer who has at least five years' experience in either or both the practice of law or the assessment of costs and is a fit and proper person to assess costs.
In principle, I accept that a costs assessor assessing costs is not practising law as such.
I accept the submission insofar as it refers to the eligibility prerequisites for appointment as such. Notably, that Mr Walter possessed those eligibility attributes was not in dispute.
(m) At paragraph [16], that it was "tolerably clear from the wording used by the legislature that the assessment of costs is separate to the practice (sic) of law."
I accept that the assessment of costs is an activity that is separate from the practise of law.
(n) At paragraph [17], that there was no authority on the precise point as to whether a costs assessor would fall within the definition of "trader" but, in view of the confined categories of persons who do not meet the definition of "trader,"[15] it was "highly arguable" that a costs assessor is a "trader" and that such a conclusion would be consistent with Walsh referred to in the footnote to paragraph [14].
I accept the submission that there is no authority on the precise point of whether a costs assessor is a "trader" but, for the reasons to which I will refer later, I do not accept that it is highly arguable that a costs assessor falls within the definition of a "trader."
(o) At paragraph [18], that Mr Walter was not, in any event, an approved costs assessor at the time he was appointed because:
(i) In Appeal CA 9984/06, the Court of Appeal ordered Mr Amos to pay the costs of the appeal;
(ii) The assessment of costs was governed by the Uniform Civil Procedure Amendment Rule (No. 4) 2007 which commenced on 10 December 2007;
(iii) By consent order made 4 February 2008, the parties to the appeal agreed that pursuant to rule 712 of the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 Mr Walter be appointed to assess the amount of the costs payable by Mr Amos;
(iv) Rule 679 of the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 defined "costs assessor" to mean, relevantly, a costs assessor appointed under Rule 743L; and
(v) As at the date of the consent order made 4 February 2008, Mr Walter was not a person appointed under Rule 743L.
Mr Walter was undoubtedly an appointed costs assessor who, by consent of the parties and a Court order, carried out the costs assessments quantifying Mr Amos' costs liability to Monsour. Mr Amos' claim against Mr Walter depended on those facts.
Whether or not Mr Walter was an approved costs assessor at the time that he was appointed to carry out the costs assessments was however irrelevant to the point of jurisdiction.
(p) At paragraph [19], that the Tribunal must not however decide that fact (one way or the other) in the absence of any evidence from either party, or without a trial and detailed argument, on the issue and, to the extent that any evidence on the issue may have been filed in the Small Claims Tribunal, such evidence is untested.
I repeat what I have said in respect of Mr Jeffery's submission in paragraph [18]. The issue was not whether Mr Walter was a costs assessor but rather whether he had overcharged for his costs assessments and for giving the reasons requested by Mr Amos for disallowing some of his objections to costs items claimed by Monsour.
(q) At paragraph [20], that the Tribunal had jurisdiction to hear and decide this matter as either:
I reject that submission for the reasons to which I will return later.
(r) At paragraph [21], that, in the event the Tribunal decided that a costs assessor does not fall within the definition of "trader," then "the Tribunal should nevertheless allow the claim to proceed to trial on the issue of whether Mr Walter was an approved costs assessor at the time (sic) that he was appointed (sic)".
I accept the implied admission that Mr Walter was an appointed costs assessor but otherwise reject that submission.
That Mr Walter was a costs assessor was not disputed. Whether he either was or was not an "approved" costs assessor was a red herring and, as I have said, was irrelevant to the point of jurisdiction. If a costs assessor, approved or not, was not a trader for purposes of jurisdiction then Mr Amos' Claim had to be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction.
A claim for money, or relief from paying money, of a value not exceeding the prescribed amount, that arises out of a contract for the provision of service between persons who, in relation to those services, are a consumer or a trader on the one hand and a trader on the other.
A person who in the field of trade or commerce carries on a business of supplying goods or providing services or who regularly holds himself or herself out as ready to supply goods or to provide services of a similar nature, and includes a person who is or was the landlord of any premises let to a tenant for the purposes of a dwelling and otherwise than for the purposes of assigning or subletting by the tenant or for the purposes of a trade or business carried on by the tenant.
A person who in respect of goods supplied or services provided by the person would be a trader, but for this subsection, shall not be a trader (my emphasis) in respect of those goods or services if in supplying those goods or providing those services -
(a) the person acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce; or
(b) the person gives effect to the instructions of another who in providing those instructions acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce, and the goods supplied or the services provided are in all respects in accordance with those instructions.
(a) this Tribunal became the legal successor to the SCT; [18]
(d) all records of the SCT became QCAT records;[21]
(e) a reference to the former SCT is taken, if the context permits, to be a reference to QCAT;[22]
(f) QCAT became a party to the proceeding to which the SCT was formerly a party;[23]
(g) Mr Amos' Claim is taken to be a proceeding before QCAT;[24]
(i) QCAT has jurisdiction to deal with the matter the subject of the proceeding under the QCAT Act.[27]
(1) QCAT must deal with the matter the subject of the existing proceeding under this Act or an enabling Act.[28]
(2) However, in relation to the matter -
(a) QCAT has, and only has, the functions that the former entity (defined in section 270 as the former tribunal the proceeding was before immediately before the commencement) had in relation to the matter under the former Act;[29] and
(b) QCAT can, and can only, make a decision the former entity could have made in relation to the matter under the former Act.[30]
(1) If a provision of this Act or an enabling Act is inconsistent with QCAT's ability to perform a function under a former Act in relation to the proceeding, for the purpose of performing the function to the fullest extent practicable QCAT may (my emphasis) disregard the inconsistent provision.[31]
(a) "Minor civil dispute" means (inter alia) a claim to recover a debt or liquidated demand of money of up to the prescribed amount; or a claim between a consumer and trader that is for payment of money of a value of not more than the prescribed amount; or for relief from payment of money of a value not more than the prescribed amount.
(c) "Consumer" means inter alia an individual for whom services are supplied for fee or reward other than in a trade or business carried on by the individual or as a member of a business partnership.
(d) "Trader" means inter alia a person who in trade and commerce carries on the business of providing services or regularly holds out as ready to provide services of a similar nature but a person is not a trader if in providing the services:
(i) the person acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as within the field of trade or commerce; or
(ii) the person is giving effect to the instructions of someone else who in providing the instructions acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as within the field of trade or commerce, and the services provided are in all respects in accordance with the instructions.
(a) The jurisdiction conferred on the tribunal by section 11; and
(b) The jurisdiction conferred on the tribunal under an enabling Act to decide a matter in the first instance.
(a) For a claim to recover a debt or liquidated demand of money - a person to whom the debt is owed or money is payable; or
(b) Subject to paragraphs (c) to (f), for a claim arising out of a contract between a consumer and a trader - the consumer.
(b) the Magistrates Court in minor debt claims amongst other categories of claims with an increased monetary jurisdiction.
(a) Mr Amos was, and is, not one of the class of persons defined as a claimant in section 4(1)(a) to (f) of the SCT Act; and
(b) Mr Amos' claim was, and is, not a small claim contemplated by that section.
(k) general accounting and financial management services;[43]
(l) parties to a franchise agreement;[44] and
(m) a council assessment manager for development approval applications.[45]
(a) the quantum of items previously allowed or disallowed by a costs assessor in the course of a costs assessment, whether as between solicitor and own client pursuant to the provisions of the Legal Profession Act 2007 (Qld) or otherwise; and/or
(b) The quantum of a costs assessor's fees charged to the person liable to pay them for the costs assessment undertaken.
Not a Liquidated Demand of Money or Minor Debt Claim
(a) It is not a claim for a debt or a liquidated demand of money; and
(b) The Respondent is and was not a trader as defined in Section 4(2) of the Small Claims Tribunals Act 1973 (Qld).
[1] A copy of the Certificate is filed in the present case.
[3] See Commonwealth v Mewett (1997) 191 CLR 471 cited by Horneman-Wren SC DCJ in Pritchard v The Brisbane City Council and Anor [2020] QDC 189 at [19].
[4] Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld), s 28(3)(b) and (c).
[5] As explained in paragraphs [148] to [153] of my decision in Fisher v Wenzel & Anor [2016] QCAT 456.
[6] Capital Options (Aust) Pty Limited v Bachelor [2013] QCAT 493, [40].
[9] Royce v Youi Pty Limited [2018] QCAT 5, [119] - [120].
[11] Walsh (Referee of the Small Claims Tribunal) v Palladium Car Park Pty Ltd [1975] VicRp 91; (1975) VR 949.
[12] Morales v Murray Lyons Solicitors (a firm) [2010] QCATA 87, [22].
[14] See the eligibility requirements for the appointment of costs assessors in the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 (Qld) in Chapter 17A, part 5, Rule 743J.
[15] See for example, McDonald v Kenmore Podiatry Pty Ltd [2012] QCAT 126 (podiatrists); Davy v Ryter Planning Pty Ltd [2010] QCATA 96 (professional town planning consultants); Early Property Group Pty Ltd t/a Early Group Valuers v Cavallaro [2010] QCATA 65 (valuers).
[16] Small Claims Tribunals Act 1973 (Qld), s 4(1) (definition of 'prescribed amount').
[22] Ibid, s 254(1)(a).
[29] Ibid, s 271(2)(a).
[30] Ibid, s 271(2)(b).
[32] However, in the case of the provision of administrative services involving no specialist learning, compare Edwards v Edgar & Wood Solicitors [2018] QCATA 154.
[33] Holman v Deol [1979] 1 NSWLR 640.
[34] Rowley v Abacus Associates Pty Ltd & Anor [2017] QCAT 36.
[35] Safe and Sound Building Society v SRJ Audit Pty Ltd [2015] QCATA 109.
[36] Gall & Anor v Lakatoi Pty Ltd t/as Maritime Solutions Most Things Nautical [2014] QCAT 557.
[37] Butler v Corporate Consulting Services Pty Ltd [2012] QCAT 258.
[38] Blackwhite Pty Ltd v Ryall Smyth Architects Pty Ltd [2013] QCAT 142.
[39] Grommen v Hawes [2018] QCATA 49.
[40] Pike v Rockhampton Optical Pty Ltd [2011] QCATA 200, but not an optician manufacturing spectacles to prescription.
[41] Aquilar v Egnalig [2014] QCATA 219.
[42] Sizintseva v Benowa Mansions Periodontal Specialist Centre [2014] QCATA 249.
[43] Hi Dow Australia Pty Ltd v Shivlosh Australia Pty Ltd [2015] QCATA 155.
[44] S & M Balla Pty Ltd v Queensland Jet Blasting Pty Ltd [2016] QCAT 446.
[45] Aronis v Brisbane City Council [2014] QCAT 287.
[46] Cf Graham v Legal Services Commissioner (No 2) [2014] QCA 306.
[47] See Definitions from Oxford Languages.
[48] Cambridge Dictionary and see also Expert-Wikipaedia.
[49] See Amos v Monsour P/L & Ors [2009] QCA 65, [8] - [11]; Yang & Anor v Wellcamp Properties Pty Ltd [2018] QCATA 161, [36], [38]; see also Ziegeler t/as Ziegco Pty Ltd v Recochem Incorporated [2010] QCATA 78 referring to Hill v Berghofer [2011] QCATA 34, [7].
[50] See Royce v Youi Pty Ltd [2018] QCAT 5 and the case examples of what are or are not liquidated demands of money referred to in paragraphs [126] and [127].
[51] See Bell Lawyers Pty Ltd v Pentelow [2019] HCA 29, [20].
Amos
Walter [2020] QCAT 360
Amos v Monsour P/L & Ors [2009] QCA 65
Amos v Monsour Legal Costs P/L [2007] QCA 235
Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd [2006] QDC 485
Aquilar v Egnalig [2014] QCATA 219
Aronis v Brisbane City Council [2014] QCAT 287
Bell Lawyers Pty Ltd v Pentelow [2019] HCA 29
Blackwhite Pty Ltd v Ryall Smyth Architects Pty Ltd [2013] QCAT 142
Butler v Corporate Consulting Services Pty Ltd [2012] QCAT 258
Capital Options (Aust) Pty Limited v Bachelor [2013] QCAT 493
Davy v Ryter Planning Pty Ltd [2010] QCATA 96
Early Property Group Pty Ltd t/a Early Group Valuers v Cavallaro [2010] QCATA 65
Edwards v Edgar & Wood Solicitors [2018] QCATA 154
Fisher v Wenzel & Anor [2016] QCAT 456
Gall & Anor v Lakatoi Pty Ltd t/as Maritime Solutions Most Things Nautical [2014] QCAT 557
Graham v Legal Services Commissioner (No 2) [2014] QCA 306
Grommen v Hawes [2018] QCATA 49
Hi Dow Australia Pty Ltd v Shivlosh Australia Pty Ltd [2015] QCATA 155
Hill v Berghofer [2011] QCATA 34
McDonald v Kenmore Podiatry Pty Ltd [2012] QCAT 126
Morales v Murray Lyons Solicitors (a firm) [2010] QCATA 87
Pike v Rockhampton Optical Pty Ltd [2011] QCATA 200
Pritchard v The Brisbane City Council and Anor [2020] QDC 189
Rowley v Abacus Associates Pty Ltd & Anor [2017] QCAT 36
Royce v Youi Pty Limited [2018] QCAT 5
S & M Balla Pty Ltd v Queensland Jet Blasting Pty Ltd [2016] QCAT 446
Safe and Sound Building Society v SRJ Audit Pty Ltd [2015] QCATA 109
Sizintseva v Benowa Mansions Periodontal Specialist Centre [2014] QCATA 249
Yang & Anor v Wellcamp Properties Pty Ltd [2018] QCATA 161
Ziegeler t/as Ziegco Pty Ltd v Recochem Incorporated [2010] QCATA 78
(1997) 191 CLR 471
Form 1 Claim filed 22 May 2009 dismissed for lack of jurisdiction because (a) it was not a claim for a debt or liquidated demand of money, and (b) the respondent was not a 'trader' as defined in s 4(2) of the Small Claims Tribunals Act 1973 (Qld) (see [5], [124]).