[2025] FWC 2030
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Fair Work Commission
2025-07-16
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d) the Applicant filed a Form F8 General Protections Involving Dismissal Application (Other GP Application) on 7 May 2025 (being 42 days after his dismissal, or 21 days late);[14]
e) a conciliation conference between the Applicant and the Respondent occurred before the Commission in respect of the UD Application on 14 May 2025 (this occurred despite the Respondent making a "genuine redundancy" objection to the UD Application). The matter did not resolve at conciliation;
f) the Applicant formally discontinued the UD Application, and the Other GP Application, on 21 May 2025; and
g) the Applicant filed his Form F8 General Protections Involving Dismissal Application in these proceedings (C2025/4758) on 21 May 2025 (being 56 days after his dismissal, or 35 days late).[15]
"Mr Ng's reasons as stated in the Application are not reasons that would amount to exceptional circumstances, for the reasons set out in the Employer Response, including that:
(a) Mr Ng's first Form F8 - General Protections Application Involving Dismissal (C2025/3720) was lodged in the FWC on 7 May 2025, being 42 days after the dismissal took effect and 21 days after the expiry of the 21-day time limit. Accordingly, this application was also out of time; and
(b) the delay in filing the Application (and indeed, the first application C2025/3720) was not caused by any factors outside Mr Ng's control. The Commission provides clear guidance on the appropriate forms and timeframes. Mr Ng chose to file multiple applications (including C2025/3720 and U2025/4645). That was a matter for him. A mistake in lodging a form, decisions to change the format of the claim and the further delay in correcting or taking steps to advise of his election to change his claim were matters entirely within Mr Ng's power to avoid and do not amount to exceptional circumstances.
Mr Ng has reiterated the reasons set out in the Application in his submissions filed on 2 July 2025, without providing any explanation for the significant delay or demonstrating exceptional circumstances."[16]
"There have been a number of cases before the Commission where an applicant has lodged an unfair dismissal application or a general protections application involving dismissal before withdrawing that application and lodging the alternative application. The Commission has generally found that there is nothing unusual about this and, without more, this circumstance is not an acceptable or reasonable explanation for the delay."[18]
Action taken by the Applicant to dispute the dismissal[20]
"LORAC submits it would suffer prejudice as a result of the delay, which has created ongoing uncertainty and prolonged the resolution of the matter.
Mr Ng's approach in filing multiple claims has already required LORAC to expend considerable time and resources in responding to separate proceedings, including by attending, and participating in good faith, in a conference of Mr Ng's unfair dismissal claim and attempting to resolve that claim.
LORAC should not be prejudiced by Mr Ng's failure to properly bring his Application in the manner he intended within the prescribed timeframe, nor should it bear the additional costs and time associated with defending a claim that lacks merit, for the reasons set out below."[22]
"In considering whether to accept an application which has been lodged outside the time ... the Commission may consider whether, on the basis of the material relied on by the parties, the applicant has a sufficient case on the merits although the discretion should be exercised having primary regard to the circumstances which led to the late lodgement: see by analogy Bearings Incorporated (Australia) Pty Ltd v Treloar ... It should be emphasised that in considering the merits the Commission is not in a position to make findings of fact on contested issues, unless evidence is called on those issues. Evidence is rarely called on the merits and there are sound reasons why the Commission should not embark on a detailed consideration of the substantive case in an application ... In particular, it is undesirable that parties be exposed to the requirement to present their evidentiary cases twice. There are other matters, however, which might affect the exercise of the Commission's discretion directly, in particular those matters which led to the late lodgement. If the applicant does not call evidence on contested issues relevant to those matters the Commission may nevertheless make findings based on the opposing contentions of the parties or conclude that on a particular issue the applicant has not made out its case ...".[26]
"If the application has no merit, then it would not be unfair to refuse to extend the time period for lodgement. However, we wish to emphasise that a consideration of the merits of the substantive application for relief in the context of an extension of time application does not require a detailed analysis of the substantive merits. It would be sufficient for the applicant to establish that the substantive application was not without merit."
Fairness as between the Applicant and other persons in a similar position[31]
The Applicant, Mr Alex Kwok Kit Ng, appeared for himself.
Ms Leyla Dixon, Partner, Minter Ellison lawyers, appeared with permission for the Respondent (Laing O'Rourke Australia Construction Pty Ltd).
[1] See email from Chambers to the parties (dated 14 July 2025) granting permission for the Respondent to be legally represented generally in these proceedings.
[2] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901.
[4] McGuire v Sandfire Resources NL [2020] FWCFB 6492, at [9] and [32]; Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901.
[5] (1964) 38 ALJR 293, at 301.
[6] Section 366(2)(a) of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Act).
[7] Bianca Mamo v ICLED Australia Pty Limited T/A Signs National Group [2021] FWC 3903.
[8] Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Foods Distributors Pty Ltd [2018] FWCFB 901, at [39]-[40].
[10] Shaw v ANZ Bank [2015] FWCFB 287, at [12].
[11] Digital Hearing Book (DHB), p.24.
[15] Applicant's Submissions, DHB, pp.44-45. See also Form F8, at Item 1.5, DHB, p.10.
[16] Respondent's Submissions, at [26]-[27], DHB, p.59.
[18] Ibid, at [122]. See also the other cases cited in the Respondent's Submissions, at [44]-[51], DHB, pp.61-62.
[19] I would reach the same conclusion if I was dealing with Matter Number C2025/3720.
[20] Section 366(2)(b) of the Act.
[21] Section 366(2)(c) of the Act.
[22] Respondent's Submissions, at [26]-[27], DHB, pp.60-61.
[23] I note that the Other GP Application (Matter Number C2025/3720) was withdrawn prior to the Respondent needing to file a Form F8A reply.
[24] Section 366(2)(d) of the Act.
[27] Kornicki v Telstra-Network Technology Group Print PR3168, 22 July 1997 (Ross VP, Watson SDP, Gay C).
[28] Albeit under s.170CE(8) of the (now repealed) Workplace Relations Act 1996 (Cth).
[29] See also Form F8, at Item 2.2, DHB, p.11. The Applicant also relies upon "Whistleblower" protections under Part 9.4AAA of the Corporations Act 2001.
[32] Pitrau v Barrick Mining Services Pty Ltd [2012] FWA 8363; (2012) 255 IR 144, per McCarthy DP, at 151-152, [37]. See also, Robert Csontos v Kewarra Lifestyles Pty Ltd [2024] FWC 1687 at [30] citing Perry v Rio Tinto Shipping Pty Ltd [2016] FWCFB 6963 at [41].
[33] Respondent's Submissions, at [44]-[51], DHB, pp.61-62.
[34] A 21 day delay is equally a significant (or lengthy) period of delay.
[35] See Stogiannidis v Victorian Frozen Food Distributors Pty Ltd T/A Richmond Oysters [2018] FWCFB 901.
[36] [2011] FWAFB 975, at [13]. I would reach the same conclusion if I was dealing with Matter Number C2025/3720. For completeness, I do not accept that the case of Wilson v Woolworths [2010] FWA 2480 assists the Applicant. The findings in that case (at [16] and [30]) are not findings available in this case.
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Alex Kwok Kit Ng
Laing O'Rourke Australia Construction Pty Ltd [2025] FWC 2030
"Finally, to require that regard be had to a particular matter in making a discretionary judgment is not to require that that matter shall be allowed an actual influence upon the ultimate result. The matter is to be considered for such bearing as it may have upon the question to be decided, and it is to be allowed such weight (if any) as the tribunal thinks it ought to be given; but if the tribunal thinks it ought to have no weight, then no weight is required to be given to it: cf. Beresford v Ward [1961] VicRp 99; [1961] VR 632, at 634."
(1964) 38 ALJR 293
(1995) 67 IR 298
(2012) 255 IR 144