What is your opinion as to the relationship of the disc injury you've described with that slipping incident?---The history that I have been given, it fits very well with that injury causing a disc injury. The history, if I recall, was that Mr Abdulle was pushing something like a trolley in a slightly bent forward position and slipped on - I'm not sure if it was a wet floor or whether there was something on the floor that he slipped on and as a result hit the ground. So he was in a position where he was pushing and using the back muscles at the same time and then slipped. I can see that sort of injury causing sufficient force to cause a disc injury.
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You have described him in response to a question as a stoic man. Has he struck you as [a] man who has lacked motivation in treatment that you've offered him?---No.
Has he struck you as a man who has exaggerated his sickness?---No.
In the last 12 months, what has been the presenting symptom when you've seen him in your clinic?---It generally relates to his back condition.
In respect to the back, you've been giving him certificates of total incapacity for work, what is his capacity by reason of the back injury and the back injury alone?---I feel the back injury is the major contributing factor to his work - his inability to work.
So from the back injury alone, do you see him as having a capacity for work? ---As I've said, it is possible that if we could find something that was suitable in terms of his skills, his language ability, something where he could move around on an as arranged basis and where he didn't have to do any lifting, that he may be able to do some work - perhaps more on a part-time basis - but I can't realistically think of what occupation would allow him to do all ... those sorts of things.
You say 'move around'. I take it you mean a freedom to sit and stand?---Sit and stand and be able to stretch and move around and try and relieve stiffness in the back.
He would need to have some form of break or rotation offered to him?---He would at least have to have a break, but he also needs to have the ability, whatever job it is, that if the pain is bad at the time, that he can actually move around to relieve the pain at the time, not waiting until he has break time.
You mentioned there the probability, I think, or you said the suggestion of part-time employment. When you say 'part-time', are you able to put an estimate on hours?---Again, I would be looking - if he was able to do something like that - at commencing at a low number of hours, possibly two hours a day for three to four days a week, but very much on a trial basis. Again, that would be subject to finding something that would be suitable.
If there was a job that involved him to stand for long periods, would that be something that you see as suitable?---I think, again, that would be a problem. I think he would be too uncomfortable on standing, and I think there is a real risk that if he was doing that for any length of time that he would actually deteriorate.
The reverse of that: if there was a job that required him to sit for extended period[s]?---The same applies.