The course of the hearing on 3 February 2006
35 According to the transcript, the hearing before the Committee on 3 February 2006 commenced at 9.07 am. Present were the three members of the Committee (including the Chairman); the Committee Secretary; a member of the Committee Secretariat; the Committee's legal adviser; Dr Thoo; and a transcriber from Auscript Australasia Pty Ltd.
36 The Chairperson made some introductory remarks and invited Dr Thoo to make an application for a short adjournment at "any time" and for "any reason", including for the purpose of "obtaining legal advice".
37 Dr Thoo said that he was consulting his lawyers and thought that the hearing had to be adjourned until they decided whether the hearing should continue or whether they should write to Medicare or whether they take the matter to court. By "they" Dr Thoo was referring to his lawyers. Dr Thoo added that he thought that until he had the legal advice from his solicitors, the hearing should be adjourned. The Chairperson asked Dr Thoo whether he was saying that he was unwilling to proceed at that time and he replied that he was unwilling. The Chairperson then said that the Committee would have a short adjournment while the Chairperson took advice. The Chairperson asked Dr Thoo to wait outside for a few minutes. Apparently Dr Thoo went outside at 9.11 am and the hearing resumed at 9.25 am. There is no evidence of what happened during the intervening 14 minutes but I infer that the members of the Committee discussed Dr Thoo's application for an adjournment among themselves and with the Committee's legal adviser.
38 On the resumption of the hearing, the Chairperson informed Dr Thoo that the Committee had considered his request for an adjournment. The Chairperson referred Dr Thoo to a letter dated 10 November 2005 which Dr Thoo had written to the Committee in which he had stated:
I would like this legal matter referred to a barristor [sic] for a legal opinion. Until this legal matter is resolved it is not appropriate to attend for review on Nov 18, 2005.
39 The Chairperson next quoted from the Committee Secretary's reply to Dr Thoo of 15 November 2005 to the effect that as the Committee was not in a position to provide Dr Thoo with legal advice, it suggested that he seek his own legal advice on the issues he had raised. The Committee Secretary had also pointed out in her letter that Dr Thoo was entitled, subject to any reasonable limitations or restrictions imposed by the Committee, to be accompanied at the hearing by a lawyer or other adviser. The Chairperson then said:
Now, I can't see or the Committee can't see that the argument has changed at all so that we intend to continue with the hearing today.
40 In substance, at this point the Chairperson was indicating that as far as could be seen, Dr Thoo was raising at the hearing on 3 February 2006 the matters that he had raised twelve weeks earlier in his letter of 10 November 2005. It will be noted that Dr Thoo had in fact appeared unrepresented at the second hearing date of 18 November 2005, notwithstanding the exchange of letters between him and the Committee Secretary a few days earlier to which I have referred above.
41 Dr Thoo did not acquiesce in the Chairperson's statement and the following exchange ensued:
DR THOO: Okay. The legal matter - I sought an opinion so I think I have grounds, okay, for not continuing because I will get the solicitor to either write to Medicare or write to you or he will decide whether to challenge the thing in court or he decide to continue on and then challenge subsequently in court because in your letter the reason for referral is due to other reasons.
In the Health Insurance Act if you have a reason you have to give me the reason and then for me to reply and go through. But in your reasons is I breached 80 20, which I didn't, and statistics are provided which are fraudulent statistics and no court of law will uphold any fraudulent statistics. So, such that I want it to be adjourned until my lawyer get in contact with you which is reasonable under the Health Insurance Act.
THE CHAIRPERSON: Dr Thoo, you've had 11 weeks from the time you got the last letter to seek this legal advice and you've given us no communication whatever from that date. Now, what is your explanation for that?
DR THOO: That is a holiday period and I thought that I am busy with other legal matters, okay? So I couldn't get into too many of these things because I am suing a body corp for damages. I've got a top solicitor, David Le Page, and so now I am getting this solicitor so he can get back to you. So, I don't think we should proceed.
THE CHAIRPERSON: When did you discuss this matter with your solicitor?
DR THOO: I contracted recently, okay? But I will have to get more details on it and so we get back to you.
THE CHAIRPERSON: What does "recently" mean?
DR THOO: The last couple of days.
THE CHAIRPERSON: Right. So, you've had 11 weeks and two days before the hearing you decided that - - -
DR THOO: Because this is a matter that in any of this thing I shouldn't prejudice my legal rights. So, what I suggest to you, that is a matter that you cannot rush into anything but I think that this should be adjourned to appropriate date when we get back to you.
THE CHAIRPERSON: All right. Well, we will adjourn the hearing for ten minutes and we will consider your submission.
DR THOO: Okay, yes.
THE CHAIRPERSON: Thank you.
42 There followed a second adjournment, apparently from 9.30 am to 9.40 am. Upon the resumption, the Chairperson read to Dr Thoo:
· an extract from a letter from the Committee Secretary to Dr Thoo dated 30 March 2005;
· an extract from a Notice of Hearing signed by the Chairperson for and on behalf of the Committee dated 19 July 2005, which had been enclosed in a letter sent to Dr Thoo from the Committee Secretary dated 20 July 2005;
· section 106KA(7) of the Act; and
· the Committee's report dated 31 August 2005 to the effect that the Committee did not intend to inquire into whether there had been a prescribed pattern of services, and that the hearing in fact related to the question of whether Dr Thoo had engaged in inappropriate practice as defined in the Act in respect of MBS Item 23 and MBS Item 36 services during the review period of 1 January 2003 to 31 December 2003 inclusive, because he may not have provided adequate clinical input into the services and because he may not have satisfied the requirements of the relevant MBS descriptors.
43 The Chairperson said that the Committee intended to go ahead. After further resistance by Dr Thoo, the Chairperson said that Dr Thoo's options appeared to be to stay and go through the process or leave the hearing. The Chairperson said that if Dr Thoo chose to leave, the Committee would go through the process in his absence. Dr Thoo said he decided to leave because he did not think his legal rights should be disadvantaged. The Chairperson said that Dr Thoo had previously had plenty of time to get legal representation. Dr Thoo said that he would not proceed on that day.
44 There was a third adjournment, apparently from 9.51 am to 9.52 am after which the Chairperson said that the Committee had taken legal advice. The Chairperson read part of s 104 of the Act to the effect that a committee might proceed with the hearing even if the person under review failed to appear, or appeared but refused or failed to give evidence or to answer a question. Dr Thoo asserted that that provision applied only if he stubbornly refused to cooperate. He asserted that he was "happy to cooperate" but because it was a legal problem, the hearing should be postponed. Finally, the Chairperson repeated that Dr Thoo had had ample time to obtain legal advice by the time of the hearing on 3 February 2006. The Chairperson said "good morning" to Dr Thoo at 9.53 am which was apparently the time when Dr Thoo departed.
45 The transcript does not reveal what happened subsequently on 3 February 2006.