"--- Yes, I told them this. This was what I was saying at the end of the video-recording and they said, like they said in their evidence, 'Look, we've got three witnesses saying that you were armed,' and I said, 'Look, this is not how it happened,' and that's when they referred to saying, 'You're not helping yourself here, Mr Yerkovich,' and then it went on a bit to say, 'Do you know where any firearms are then?'
'Do you know where any firearms are'?---That's what they said.
Was it the case that you did know where there were any firearms?---Yeah, I did. I did know where one was. It was then that the police proceeded to tell me a story about some young kid or some gun or something along those lines as to what they said this morning.
Let me stop you there. Detective Bethell I think is his evidence talked to you - I'm sorry, he gave evidence that he said to you that there was a public safety issue involved in having firearms lying around?---Yes, that's right.
There was an incident involving a Warwick police officer who had had a gun taken off him and it was later found by a child. Is it the truth that you admit that those words spoken by Detective Bethell are in fact true?---Yes, they are true.
What else did he say?---He said along the lines of that's it safe to get it off the streets and I also indicated about my bail, if I was getting bail, and they said, 'Well, if you help us, you know, with our investigations, then we can grant bail here or we can also hand letters up to your Honour,' and I said, 'Yeah.' I made it clear that the gun wasn't mine and they said, 'No, no, it's just safe to get it off the street,' and that's when they told me that story, you know, and I said, 'Yeah, no worries' and took them to it.
So is it your evidence that you said to the detectives, 'Look, I might know where there is a gun but it's not the gun - - -'?---That was - that they're accusing me of using, you know.
It's the case, is it not, that you denied using any gun at all?---That's correct.
The detectives say that you were never offered the opportunity to participate in recording those statements on video. Do you agree with that?---Yeah, they never gave me the opportunity to go on video about that because it wasn't concerning my case.
You agree that I put to Detective Millar, 'Look, don't you think it's strange that Mr Yerkovich says nothing at all in answer to your inquiries, he exercised his right to silence on video and then as soon as the video finishes, he volunteers this information quite gratuitously, quite spontaneously?' Is that what happened?---No, that's not what happened. They told me when I asked about bail and them going on about me not helping myself and they promised me there's a letter they were going to write to the judge and that they were able to give me bail and because I knew these charges were that outrageous, I just thought, 'Well' - I also told them that if out, I could prove my innocence that I didn't do this.
If you were granted bail, you could prove your innocence? ---Yes.
Did you tell that to the detectives?---I did.
What did they say or can you tell his Honour which detective you're referring to?---I was mainly talking with Detective Bethell.
What did Detective Bethell say in response to your comment that if you were let out, you could prove your innocence? ---Well, he just said, 'No, no, no, no. First we will see where this gun is,' and went on about that.
When you say went on about it?---Yeah, well, just along that line of conversation he was saying - when he said - I took him to the gun and that was that ..."