Building a boatshed - the relationship between the Liddys and Mr Hyde-Page
34The Liddys acquired the property in 2005. They hoped to knock it down and build a new house, differently sited, on the land. The yards were then overgrown and in need of work. A solicitor acted for them on the purchase and had obtained a sewerage diagram which Mr. Liddy said he saw, and from it knew the location of the sewer. He did not know the size of it. As the block was overgrown he did not, on pre-purchase inspections, notice the manholes between which the sewer crossed the property. However he undertook some clearing work after they moved in and became aware of their location.
35When they purchased the property the Liddys already had a boat, and the property had a jetty. They decided they would like to build a boatshed and slipway to house their boat. These structures were very common in the vicinity of Gannons Bay and around Port Hacking. They had heard of the fourth defendant, Mr Hyde Page, as someone in the business of waterfront construction.
36Mr. Hyde-Page was an experienced builder of boatsheds and slipways. He occasionally built a seawall. Mr. Hyde-Page is not licensed to perform residential building work under the Home Building Act 1989 (NSW). Obviously the skills necessary to build a boatshed could be deployed to build residential structures. However "jetties, slipways, pontoons or boat ramps and any structures ancillary to these exceptions" are excluded from the definition of a dwelling under that Act, and therefore a licence is not required for construction of this type. Mr. Hyde-Page, through Mr M Evans of counsel, points out that building retaining walls may be residential building work because, for the purpose of the definition of dwelling under s.3 of the Act, retaining walls are included when they are constructed for use in conjunction with a dwelling: Regulation 5(K). In any event, as I have said, Mr. Hyde-Page, as he was clearly entitled to do, structured his business to avoid the necessity to operate within the regulatory framework of the home building legislation. I repeat, it was not necessary for him to comply with it in respect of the waterfront work he restricted himself to performing.
37As I remarked at [9] when analysing the issues, Mr. Hyde-Page argues that he was not responsible for the landslip in any way. In particular, his case is that it was no part of his role to build the retaining walls that were undoubtedly required, nor was it his job to provide any temporary support for the excavation during the construction. His sole role was to perform the contract to build the boatshed. Mr. Hyde-Page says that the contract was entered into on 25th April 2007 by the oral acceptance by Mr. Liddy on behalf of himself and his wife of a written quote dated 24th April 2007 (see for example volume 7, pages 3632-3; exhibit 4D[3], volume 7, pages 3537-8). Mr. Liddy says it occurred on 24th April 2007 (exhibit 2D1 [89], volume 7, page 3311).
38I have concluded that there are three relevant phases of the relationship between the Liddys and Mr. Hyde-Page. They are:
(a)The initial phase from their first meeting until council approval was obtained for the development;
(b)The excavation work;
(c)The building contract.
39It is Mr. Liddy's case that throughout all phases, Mr. Hyde-Page was an active participant who undertook relevant work. During the first phase he not only drew the plans, and facilitated the preparation of the statement of environmental effects by his son, to which he contributed and co-signed, but he also gave detailed advice on an ongoing basis, talking Mr. Liddy through the development process and offering opinions about the resolution of issues as they arose. During this phase, Mr. Hyde-Page was paid only a relatively small amount for the preparation of the plans. His son was paid a more substantial amount in the preparation of the statement of environmental effects. However, the Liddys say that to the extent to which Mr. Hyde-Page went unremunerated, he acted in the expectation that he would obtain the construction contract.
40In regard to the second phase, Mr. Liddy says it was always in the contemplation of the Liddys and Mr. Hyde-Page, from the commencement of the process, that excavation would be required. Mr. Hyde-Page had discussed that with them at their first meeting and had over the months mentioned Mr. Flexman's name as an excavator able to perform waterfront work. Flexible is Mr Flexman's company. Although the arrangement with Mr. Flexman was for payment in cash direct by the Liddys, and so too, the barge operator, Mr. Hyde-Page had made all arrangements in his capacity as "expectant principal contractor", as I would summarise it.
41There is no question, of course, in relation to the third phase that Mr. Hyde-Page was involved as the principal contractor. The Liddys accept that Mr. Hyde-Page had not quoted for and was not intending to build the retaining walls required as a condition of the building approval. The Liddys say that Mr. Hyde-Page, in any event, doubted they were necessary. The Liddys accept that they eventually concluded that it was going to be necessary for retaining walls to be built (ultimately by a different contractor, as to which see below) after they had obtained engineering details from a structural engineer, not Mr. Bartel. However, they say that as Mr. Hyde-Page was responsible for organising the excavation; co-ordinating the barge and the excavator's trucks and equipment; the excavation was necessary to accommodate the boatshed he intended to build for them; and temporary support for the excavation was necessary to protect the works, and any workers; and to provide support for the land beyond the excavation, Mr. Hyde-Page had assumed responsibility for those matters and they had relied upon him to take any appropriate step to support the excavation work.
42Essentially Mr. Hyde-Page's position is that he was only responsible for work he was paid for, and that was restricted to preparing the plans and constructing the boatshed. The contract for the boatshed did not include the cost of excavation, indeed that was performed before the contract was entered into. He was not responsible for the second phase and his involvement in contacting Flexible Excavations, arranging the barge and directing the excavators and the barge to the site was performed as a mere gratuitous agent for the Liddys, who were at that time unable to look after these details themselves because they were on holiday in Queensland. His contract did not provide for any shoring, or retaining walls. And supporting the excavation was no part of his responsibility. I understood the argument to be that, to the extent to which he may have offered a friendly word of advice along the way, this was entirely gratuitous. He just passed suggestions on to be helpful and for what they were worth, whether or not the Liddys thought them useful.
43I have taken some time to set out these issues because the parties, that is say, the Liddys and Mr Hyde-Page, presented a great deal of detail in affidavit or statement with numerous attachments about matters which, in truth, were not entirely germane to the resolution of the issues in the case, but which rather went to the provision of incidental matters which might assist in the establishment of the probabilities.
44In the end I have come to the conclusion that the Liddys version of events is to be preferred. In relation to the second phase it is, in my judgment, entirely supported by the independent evidence provided by Mr. Roger Flexman and Mr. Ryan Harrison.
45In exhibit 4D4, Mr. Hyde-Page said that at the first meeting with the Liddys, at their home, he told them that he could not help with, inter alia, excavation. He said, "I do not do this work. You will need to employ an excavation contractor and hire a motor barge to do the cartage". From what is written at volume 7 pages 3523-4, one could readily form the impression that he was unfamiliar with these matters because when asked about the cost he said:
I have been told that it is expensive and it can cost as much as the boatshed and slipway combined.
This sounds very much like Mr. Hyde-Page had no direct knowledge of such matters. I interpolate in this conversation he referred to the plans drawn by him which became the approved plans, after amendment, as "concept plans".
46At exhibit 4D4 [18], after payment for the statement of environmental effects and the "concept plans", Mr. Hyde-Page said he said to Mr. Liddy:
This is the end of my involvement for now. It's up to you to get on with the application process. After you have approved construction plans and the site work is done I will be happy to quote you on the boatshed [emphasis added].
The effect of his further evidence is that he only gave some guidance because of Mr. Liddys importuning.
47Notwithstanding this, his evidence is that in late March 2007 Mr. Hyde-Page said that he contacted Mr. Liddy to let him know that 'Blue Water Barge', which "was the only vessel suitable for doing excavation cartage" (exhibit 4D4 [30], volume 7, page 3532), was available. The flavour of Mr. Hyde-Page's account is that Mr. Liddy asked him for advice about any local excavation contractors that Mr. Liddy could use to do the work. Mr. Hyde-Page says that he responded:
I don't know of any locals, but through a colleague of mine on the Georges River, I met an excavation contractor who works with him.
Once again, this creates the impression that Mr. Hyde-Page really does not know these things but just happened to have information available that might help. Notwithstanding this, Mr. Hyde-Page had Mr. Flexman's name, business name, landline, and mobile telephone number. And he agreed to contact the barge operator and the excavator to negotiate a price on behalf of Mr. Liddy.
48Mr. Hyde-Page says that he reported back to Mr. Liddy providing rates and giving an estimated start date. However, Mr. Liddy was going to be in Queensland on holidays when the contractors were available. Mr. Hyde- Page says he responded as following:
I will let them know it's off, and that you will be contacting them when you get back.
Mr. Liddy is said to have asked for time to think and then rang back and asked Mr. Hyde-Page to "look after the excavation for me as a favour". Mr. Hyde-Page initially refused, saying "that's not what I do". He agreed to "show them the site and hand over the plans" as long as it didn't take too long. Moreover, Mr. Hyde-Page said that, again as a favour, he agreed to setup the "silt boom" at the water's edge for the excavation.
49On this basis, Mr. Hyde-Page said he asked Mr. Flexman to coordinate with the barge operator to arrange a time so Mr. Hyde-Page could show them the site. He says this occurred on 16th April 2007. He met the barge on Gannons Bay, pointed out the land, passed on a message from Mr. Liddy that the invoices should be put in his letterbox, and provided Mr. Liddys contact details, the approved plans and the geotechnical report. He says that Mr. Flexman looked at the plans and the report and enquired of him, "do you know where the survey mark is?" He did, and he pointed it out. Again one has the impression this was simply a friendly act. He said saw Mr. Flexman mark out the excavation and the boundary using a yellow spray can. Mr. Flexman apparently then said, "We'll be right now". Notwithstanding that he was apparently acting as a mere conduit, Mr Hyde-Page gave some gratuitous advice about the need for a 300mm rise at the back of the boatshed to facilitate launching the boat, to which Mr. Flexman agreed (exhibit 4D4, volume 7, page 3537 [38]). Mr. Hyde-Page helped set out the silt boom, and as a friendly act towed Mr. Liddys pontoon to a mooring so it would not be damaged.
50I regret to say that Mr. Hyde-Page was in many respects an unimpressive witness. I formed the view that this was mainly because he went out of his way to minimise his involvement in the excavation. I will give a couple of examples of this. At [41] of his statement, exhibit 4D4, volume 7, page 3537, Mr. Hyde-Page said the following:
Roger Flexman took about four days to complete the excavation. The only contact I had with the site in this time was to observe from a distance what work had occurred as I travelled past in my boat in Gannons Bay in the morning or in the evenings after work.
I will not detail Mr. Flexman's evidence at this stage. The ordinary meaning of this, I would have thought, is that, consistently with his case that he was a mere agent in organising the contract with Flexible Excavations, having shown Mr. Flexman the site, the work was no further business of his and he simply happened to see the work going on as he travelled in his boat from his home on the opposite side of Gannons Bay to other work sites. Quite early on in his cross-examination by Mr. Watson SC, who appeared with Mr. Sheller for Sydney Water, the following exchange occurred:
Q. And did you visit while the excavation was going on?
A. Yes.
Q. And did you go there really on a daily basis and see how the excavation was going?
A. No, I did not.
Q. Not every day?
A. Not every day.
Q. How many days did you go?
A. To the site to supervise the excavation, was that the question?
Q. How many days did you do?
A. Excuse me, could you repeat the question please.
Q. How many days did you go?
A. How many days did I go to the site?
Q. Yes?
A. Probably two or three.
Q. Why?
A. The site is Mr Liddys property.
Q. That's not a good reason?
A. Sorry, I went to the site and the site consisted of a barge moored alongside Mr Liddys property, is that right? Sorry is the site the barge or is the site the property?
Q. I suppose the site has to include the property?
A. Well, I went to speak to the barge master and I did not go to the site, if the site is the Liddys property, to supervise the excavation.
Similar evidence was elicited at 418.27 - 419T:
Q. So you used the drawings or plans to check whether or not the excavation was in the right place?
A. You asked me was it
Q. No, I'm asking you did you use the drawings or the plans to check that the excavation was in the right place?
A. The survey diagram, I did, yes.
Q. And you went back to the site, you say, three times. Why did you go on the other days?
A. Basically, to see Tony Appleyard, the barge master.
Q. He doesn't have a phone?
A. He has a phone, but I do not have a mobile phone. I have never owned a mobile phone, and I have never used a mobile phone, apart from somebody giving it to me.
Q. So you are saying you went to the site by coincidence on the three days the excavation was going on, but just to speak to the barge man?
A. I went there not for just coincidence, I went there to speak to him. Also to speak to Roger Flexman who was a friend.
Q. About the excavation?
A. No, not anything about the excavation.
At 417.20 Mr. Hyde-Page described his role as "orientating" the excavating contractor.
51He was cross-examined about the same topic by Mr. Donaldson. I set the evidence out:
Q. You've said during the course of your oral evidence, have you not, that well, I put that more have you indicated to his Honour in the course of your oral evidence that during the four days or so it took to complete this excavation you came to the site from time to time and spoke to the barge operator?
A. That's true.
Q. So paragraph 41 of your affidavit was a lie, was it?
A. Could you give me the page number, please?
Q. Page 3537.
A. 3537?
Q. Yes.
A. Which
Q. Paragraph 41.
A. No, it's not a lie.
Q. Well, you did come to the site on numerous occasions during the course of the excavation works, didn't you?
A. Well, I think as his Honour explained this to me, there's a barge and there's where the digging was going on, and I was of the opinion that the site wasn't I was there on the barge, yes, I was. Now, whether that's the site or not. It wasn't an intentional lie, but.
Q. It's very explicit, isn't it, Mr Page, "The only contact I had with the site in this time was to observe from a distance what work had occurred as I travelled past in my boat in Gannons Bay in the morning or in the evenings after work". You are putting past on your boat and saw the excavation from a distance on your way to and from work, that's what you said in your affidavit, isn't it?
A. Putting past in my boat I stopped at the barge to speak to my colleague, Mr Appleyard.
HIS HONOUR
Q. Was that barge more directly adjacent to the land?
A. Yes, your Honour, there were a set of ramps, and then the site was there at the end of the ramps.
DONALDSON
Q. So it was this isn't a very good nautical term but it was parked at the site and the trucks were rolling, or the excavator was rolling on and off it in order to fill up the trucks?
A. No, they had two, two excavators there. The truck would be right on the barge ramps, and one excavator would be putting stuff into the truck, and the other one would be digging, so it was all happening at the one end of the barge.
Q. You didn't need his Honour to point out to you that there was no sensible I withdraw that. There is no sensible distinction between visiting the site during the four days of that excavation and visiting the barge, is there?
A. I think there's a clear distinction.
52A further example of what I would regard as Mr. Hyde-Page's attempts to minimise his involvement in the excavation is that initially in cross-examination he answered questions which created the impression that he was in doubt whether he would be awarded the contract. When cross-examining him about his involvement in clearing up the cave-in, Mr. Reid of counsel, appearing for Asset Geotechnical, at 430.20T asked the following question and elicited the following answer:
Q. Well, you were going to build a boatshed, were you not, on the site?
A. No, that wasn't confirmed at that stage.
...
Q. Mr Liddy contacted you about building a boat shed on site?
A. There was a proposal. It was not a contractual agreement. There was a proposal, I agree. Yes, there was.
53Mr. Toomey of counsel who appeared for the Liddys cross-examined Mr. Hyde-Page about the contents of the environmental statement, which he contributed to and co-signed with his son. It contains a detailed description of the proposed boathouse including dimensions and the statement "the work is to be completed by a contractor" (volume 7, page 3566). Mr. Toomey suggested to Mr. Hyde-Page that when he signed the report, it was anticipated that he would be the contractor (437.5T). His answer was:
I was preparing the report for Mr Liddy to progress his development. But there was no binding contract, or anything, that I was to be the contractor.
In answer to a question of mine, he said he expected to be the contractor. He had "about a 75 per cent expectation" (437.15T). In a long passage of cross-examination by Mr Toomey about Mr. Hyde-Page's terminology, and in particular referring to Mr. Liddy as an "owner builder", Mr. Hyde-Page denied that he was attempting to minimise his own role (447.10 - .25T), although he agreed that employing the epithet "owner builder" had no possible relevance to any role that Mr. Liddy could have played at the excavation site (448.10 - .20T). Indeed, it seems that someone in that position would have done no more than Mr. Hyde-Page did (444.10 - .445.25T).
54Mr. Flexman had given evidence in the plaintiff's case, that is, prior to Mr. Hyde-Page giving evidence, during the course of which it transpired, contrary to the impression created by exhibit 4D4, that Mr. Flexman and Mr. Hyde-Page knew each other quite well. Mr. Toomey cross-examined Mr. Hyde-Page about this, and he agreed that he had "used Mr. Flexman on numerous occasions [t]o perform excavation work before this particular project" (438.15T). He agreed with Mr. Flexman's estimate that they had worked together on seven occasions (439.35T). In fact, Mr. Flexman's nephew was working part time for Mr. Hyde-Page at that stage (440.25T). Mr. Toomey put the following question to Mr. Hyde-Page.
Q. I'm suggesting to you that the language you have used in your affidavit, and particularly the point I'm taking you to now, is deliberately used by you with the intention of conveying that you had had little or nothing to do with that particular excavator before?
A. That is not my intention.
It was put by different counsel in a number of different ways that Mr. Hyde-Page was deliberately seeking to distance himself "from what went on" (453.15T), or that he was attempting to tailor his evidence by minimising his involvement (488.15T).
55Mr. Toomey elicited the following evidence in cross-examination at 482.5 - .45T:
...and you told him that you would organise the barge and the excavators because you knew it was necessary for those things before you could even start to build the shed?
A. That's the area of my expertise. I know people who can do that sort of thing and yeah and I gave that service to him.
Q. And you never told him he'd have to organise that. You anticipated right from the word go that it would be you who would be organising that because these were all precursors to you even being able to build the shed?
A. I was happy to do that. I wasn't being paid for it. I was just happy to do that. It's a specialised area and I know the people involved and contacts. I was the contact man.
Q. You never suggested to him, did you, that he would have to organise those things?
A. He could.
Q. You never suggested to him that
A. No, I had suggested I had offered to him that I would do it and I didn't say well you do it.
...
Q. Whether or not the organisation of the barge and the organisation of the excavators and I'm putting to you the supervision of the excavators appeared in your ultimate quotation, you knew that in order for the boat shed ultimately to be built and for you to make the money from that it was necessary to these things to be done?
A. Yes, it was necessary.
Q. And you freely proceeded to organise those things for Mr Liddy for that very reason?
A. Yes.
56In cross-examination by Mr. Donaldson, Mr. Hyde-Page accepted that rather than an owner builder being in charge of this job, the construction certificate (volume 7, page 3619) issued on 20th March 2007 contemplated the appointment of a principal contractor. Mr Hyde-Page said that he anticipated that it would be him (491.35 - 492.35T). It is difficult for me to understand then why he denied that when he "embarked on the work of constructing the slab and boatshed, [he] did so in the understanding that [he was] the principal contractor for carrying out all the work that was the subject of the approval". Eventually Mr. Hyde-Page said he was the principal contractor for the boatshed (493.50 - 494.5T).
57Mr. Flexman's evidence was that he was a plumber by trade, but had a long-term interest in excavation work and started his own business through Flexible Excavations to further that interest in 1996. The business does not undertake shoring work. His evidence was (exhibit J, volume 7, page 3649 [8]):
In the period from 2000 to 2007, Flexible performed approximately seven jobs for Hyde-Page. Every job that Flexible has performed for Hyde-Page has involved Hyde-Page building a boatshed on residential property. (Emphasis added)
There was a pattern to the manner of engagement for each of those jobs, which Mr. Flexman describes at [9]. The pattern was as follows: Mr. Hyde-Page contacted him; he would inspect the site with Mr. Hyde-Page and provide a quote; Mr. Hyde-Page would either engage Flexible at that time or later, and if the latter usually by phone call. Flexible always specified that Hyde-Page mark out the proposed excavation. Flexible would carry out the excavation in accordance with those directions. Mr. Hyde-Page would give directions about who to address the invoice to. In his experience, the builder or head contractor arranges shoring contractors if an excavation is to be shored.
58Contrary to the evidence of Mr. Hyde-Page (483.50 - 484.15T; 486.30 - .45T), Mr. Flexman says there was a site inspection during which Mr. Hyde-Page showed him drawings, pointed out the site to be dug out and gave him the excavation dimensions specifying, "I want it mainly vertical with a batter towards the top". He said (exhibit J [14], volume 7, page 3651):
Hyde-Page did not provide me with a copy of any drawings. Hyde-Page may also have had a geotechnical report but I was not given it and did not examine it.
Mr. Flexman provided Mr. Hyde-Page with a rate on a 'do and charge basis' and estimated the total cost at $25,000. Mr. Flexman specified, "you'll need to mark out the site for us" (exhibit J, volume 7, page 3652 [16]).
59Mr. Flexman also said, contrary to what Mr. Hyde-Page said in his statement, that Mr. Hyde-Page arranged for Blue Water Barges to meet him and transport his equipment to the site. Mr. Hyde-Page was at the site when they arrived and Mr. Flexman asked him to mark out the site and "[show] me where to dig". His evidence was that this was done by Mr. Hyde-Page and that his employees - his son Clancy and Mr. Harrison - assisted in this task by holding the ends of the stringline for Mr. Hyde-Page to spray out the lines. He annexed the copies of the photographs showing this work in progress to his affidavit. (Colour copies were admitted as exhibit K.) He said Mr. Hyde-Page took those photographs. On a number of occasions Mr. Hyde-Page would come across the Bay, tie up his boat and look at the work. At the completion of the work he had the following conversation with Mr. Hyde-Page (exhibit J [29], volume 7, page 3654):
Roger Flexman: (pointing at the back wall of the excavation) "Are you going to shotcrete that?"
Hyde-Page: "No, I am going to build the block wall against it. I'll have the blocks here tomorrow."
Roger Flexman: "Fair enough"
I interpolate that Mr. Hyde-Page denied this conversation and denied that he was reinforcing the block walls of the boatshed to serve as a retaining wall for the excavation (492.45 - .50T; 496.35 - .40T).
60Mr. Flexman also gave evidence that Mr. Hyde-Page contacted him to clean up the first cave-in. Once again, Mr. Hyde-Page organised the barge. Mr. Flexman's invoices dated 16th April 2007 and 16th May 2007 are both directed to "Waterfront" and not Mr. Liddy (volume 7, pages 3668-9), as is the invoice of 'Blue Water Barge Hire' (exhibit 4D4, volume 7, page 3634). The Blue Water invoice relating to the cave-in is addressed to Mr Liddy: exhibit 4D1.
61Mr. Flexman said that Mr. Hyde-Page contacted him between the 9th and 12th of June to advise him of the second landslip and said words to the following effect:
There has been a cave-in at Peter Liddys place, the sewer is broke. I'll probably have to pay for it (exhibit J [41], volume 7, page 3656).
I interpolate that Mr. Liddy swears to a similar conversation with Mr. Hyde-Page on 23rd June 2007 (exhibit 2D1 [122], volume 7, page 3315) during the course of which Mr. Hyde-Page said, "I suppose I will have to put my hand in my pocket to pay for this". I accept this evidence and I regard these statements as evidential admissions relevant to Mr. Hyde-Page's role in relation to the excavation.
62On or about 12th June 2008, Mr. Flexman received a letter from the solicitors acting for Sydney Water, which was in substance a letter of demand. He contacted Mr. Hyde-Page immediately who suggested they "meet and talk about it". Mr. Flexman attended Mr. Hyde-Page's home on 14th June 2008. Mr Hyde-Page confirmed that he had received a similar letter and remarked (exhibit J [45], volume 7, page 3657):
This is all Peter Liddys fault. The report he got from the engineer was all wrong.
Mr. Hyde-Page helped Mr. Flexman draft an exculpatory response which Mr. Flexman's wife re-engrossed on Flexible Excavations' letterhead with some formating changes, and posted to the solicitors (volume 7, pages 3666 -7).
63Given Mr. Hyde-Page's hand in drafting the letter, it seems to me to contain significant admissions as follows:
(a)Mr. Hyde-Page showed Flexible employees where to peg out the excavation using detailed plans;
(b)These plans were the plans stamped by the Sutherland Shire Council superimposed upon the survey of Paul A. Lawson, surveyor (exhibit 4D4, volume 7, page 3628);
(c)The excavation was carried out in accordance with the geotechnical report prepared by Asset Geotechnical on 8th January 2007.
64Mr. Hyde-Page repeatedly denied assisting pegging out the excavation, or ever considering the geotechnical report before commencing the work. Mr. Toomey cross-examined Mr. Hyde-Page about these matters from 499.25 to 453.15T. Regrettably, I formed the impression that Mr. Hyde-Page did not give straight answers to the questions and on occasions when he did, he sought to give long-winded explanations to avoid the ordinary meaning of the answer he had already given. At 450.45T he agreed with the cross-examiner that if the letter sent to the solicitors had not accorded with the draft, he would have drawn that to Mr. Flexman's attention, and he did not. At 451.10T he agreed that he had shown Flexible employees where to peg out the excavation by reference to Mr. Lawson's survey. This, of course, is completely different from his original account that he simply indicated where the boundary was. When the cross-examiner sought to have him reaffirm the straightforward answer he gave at 451.30T he said, "it's a matter of interpretation". Over the whole of page 452 of the transcript he gave unresponsive, discursive, and, I thought, somewhat evasive answers. When the cross-examiner came back to the proposition which had been plainly accepted at 451.10T, at 453.10T the witness said:
... it's ambiguous, it can be read either way as far as I can see it. I would say that if I orientated them on the block you could say that they did it.
Orientating was a concept he referred to a number of times from 451.30T to 453.15T.
65The letter was a recurrent theme during the cross-examination of Mr. Flexman by Mr. Evans. But apart from the challenge, made in various ways, that the pegging out was actually done by Flexible employees and that Mr. Hyde-Page did no more than point out the boundary, which challenge Mr. Flexman refuted, it was not put to Mr. Flexman that the letter as sent to the solicitors was not as drafted between him and Mr. Hyde-Page and written out by Mr. Hyde-Page in his own hand. I prefer the evidence of Mr. Flexman where it conflicts with that of Mr. Hyde-Page.
66I am fortified in this regard by the evidence of Mr. Harrison (exhibit 2D2, volume 7, pages 3641 to 3647; 401 - 409T), which corroborates Mr. Flexman's evidence, especially in relation to the important detail about Mr. Mr. Hyde-Page "pegging out" the area to be excavated. He also corroborates Mr. Flexman in saying that Mr. Hyde-Page was on the site on each of the days on which the work was carried out, from time to time. On those occasions he appeared to be inspecting the excavation.
67As I have indicated above, there is a recurrent theme in the cross-examinations of Mr. Hyde-Page that he was attempting to minimise his role or downplay his involvement especially in relation to the critical excavation work, at the same time seeking to place the Liddys, especially Mr. Liddy, in the controlling role. I accept that this cross-examination was well directed. Although there were subtleties and mere variations of emphasis in his evidence, to my mind these were significant, and where there is a conflict, I prefer the evidence of the other witnesses.
68I infer from Mr. Liddys evidence (exhibit 2D2 [18], volume 7, pages 3296 - 7), that Mr. Hyde-Page took on the following roles:
(a)Advising the Liddys about all the necessary approvals;
(b)Preparing plans to go to the Department of Lands for the necessary license and to the council;
(c)Preparation, in conjunction with his son, of the statement of environmental effects;
(d) Organisation and co-ordination of the excavation with Flexible Excavations, and the necessary barge. Mr. Hyde-Page provided an estimate in relation to the cost of site preparation, including the excavation, and for the construction of the boatshed and sliprails.
69I also accept that at the time of the original meeting, there was discussion about any necessity for retaining walls. I accept that Mr. Hyde-Page said to Mr. Liddy (exhibit 2D1, volume 7, page 3297):
You are not going to need a retaining wall because the boatshed will just sit in the excavated area. I have done it in a similar way previously. There's a boatshed off Willarong Road near Yowie Bay with a similar design. It's the blue and white one. Go and have a look at it.
70I am satisfied that Mr. Hyde-Page had an ongoing role as a consultant when Mr. Liddy submitted his application to both the Department of Lands and the Sutherland Shire Council. I accept what Mr. Liddy says about Mr. Hyde-Page providing advice in answering requisitions, and dealing directly with Mr. Ferguson from the Department of Lands.
71I accept Mr. Liddys evidence that when the Department of Lands suggested a realignment of the boatshed and the jetty, Mr. Hyde-Page revised the plan. The revised plan is at volume 7, page 3385. I accept that revised plan was drawn by Mr. Hyde-Page, superimposed upon the survey prepared by Mr. Lawson at his suggestion.
72I accept Mr. Liddys evidence that Mr. Hyde-Page provided the simple instructions for the completion of the development application at volume 7, page 3387 (exhibit 2D1 [34] - [36]). I accept Mr. Liddy prepared the application in accordance with the advice he had received from Mr. Hyde-Page.
73When a neighbour raised some concerns in relation to the application, supported by Mr. Smith to whom I have made previous reference, and the council wrote to Mr. Liddy about it, I accept that Mr. Liddy raised the matter with Mr. Hyde-Page who agreed to consider the council's letter and advise him (volume 7, pages 3301 - 3302 [39] - [43]). I accept that Mr. Hyde-Page provided the notes and the information at volume 7, pages 3411 - 4, to assist Mr. Liddy in responding to the council's requisitions.
74An ongoing issue with the council was the question of retaining walls. I accept that Mr. Hyde-Page reiterated a number of times that they were not required because of the method of construction he was proposing (exhibit 2D1 [46] and [49]). Mr. Liddy, however, formed the view that he would not obtain approval "unless there are retaining walls". Mr. Hyde-Page advised him to draw retaining walls on the plan parallel to the boatshed walls and indicate that they were to be concrete blocks reinforced with steel in concrete. Mr. Liddy also consulted Mr. Hyde-Page about council's requirement for a geotechnical report and Mr. Hyde-Page advised him to obtain a walkover assessment and to provide him with a copy when it was obtained. I accept that Mr. Hyde-Page suggested contacting a Mr. Simon Winter, a geotechnical engineer and that Mr. Winter referred Mr. Liddy on to Mr. Mark Bartel. I accept Mr. Liddy had the conversation he deposes to at exhibit 2D1 [51] with Mr. Bartel when Mr. Bartel pointed out that a walkover assessment "normally canvasses any issues relevant to the excavation, and the design of footings and retaining walls for the building". As has been stated already, Mr. Bartel provided the report on 8th January 2007, which Mr. Liddy forwarded to the council, also providing a copy to Mr. Hyde-Page together with a copy of the plans Mr. Liddy had amended following their discussion. Council had further requirements in relation to the location of the boatshed and sliprails and the position of the retaining walls. I accept that Mr. Liddy discussed all these matters with Mr. Hyde-Page and acted in accordance with his recommendations, including further amending the plans. I reject Mr. Hyde-Page's evidence that he was unaware of the changes made to the plans and that his original drawings were no more than concept plans.
75The development consent was granted conditionally on 21st February 2007 (exhibit 2D1 [63], volume 7, page 3456). I will return to the conditions of consent below.
76Mr. Liddy provided a copy to Mr. Hyde-Page, who advised him that he needed a construction certificate before work could commence, and pointed out that he would not need home warranty insurance for a boatshed. The Liddys appointed an arm of the council, Sutherland Shire Certification Services, as the principal certifying authority ("PCA") for the project. For a time there was an issue about whether home building insurance was required. Mr. Hyde-Page insisted that this was not the case and eventually council accepted this. A construction certificate was issued on 20th March 2007. It noted that the name of the principal contractor was to be advised, but there is no serious question that that was to be Waterfront Constructions, and Mr. Liddy and Mr. Hyde-Page discussed this on 23rd March 2007 (exhibit 2D1 [71], volume 7, page 3307), even though their contract had not yet been formalised.
77Indeed, when Mr. Liddy lodged the notice of commencement of building work with the PCA on 3rd April 2007, he nominated Waterfront Constructions as the principal contractor and recorded that boatsheds are expressly excluded from Home Building Act insurance, as Mr Hyde-Page had advised him to.
78I accept from the evidence elicited by Mr. Evans in cross-examination that from the time he wrote to the council on 7th December 2009 (volume 7, page 3416), Mr. Liddy had concluded that he would separately engage the services of an engineer for the purpose of, inter alia, designing retaining walls. I do not accept, however, that because of this Mr. Liddy did not have the conversations he has given evidence of with Mr. Hyde-Page concerning the necessity for retaining walls. The two propositions are not inconsistent. There is nothing inconsistent with the proposition that Mr. Hyde-Page held the view that retaining walls were unnecessary because the reinforced walls he was proposing to build would do the job, on the one hand, and Mr. Liddy concluding that he would have an engineer consider that question separately and independently of Mr. Hyde-Page - who after all, professed no engineering expertise, but was a very experienced boatshed builder in this area - on the other.
79Moreover, I accept Mr. Hyde-Page expressed the views attributed to him by Mr. Liddy. Doubtless the expression of those opinions by a man with his experience in the field may partly explain why Mr. Liddy was slow off the mark in obtaining a structural engineers advice.
80However, it is quite clear from Mr. Liddys evidence that the council in its capacity as PCA was continuing to press him with the necessity to comply with the council condition contained in the development approval and the PCA agreement relating to the provision of engineering drawings relating to the use of reinforced concrete/masonry (volume 7, pages 3488 and 3503). A fax of 25th May 2007 from Sutherland Shire Certification Services inquiring about the required engineering details was followed up by a phone call from the responsible officer, a Mr Steve Kelly, to Mr. Liddy. Mr. Liddy undertook to provide the details as soon as possible (exhibit 4D3). He met on site with a Mr. Robert McKeen requesting an engineer's report of the slab (which had already been poured by Mr. Hyde-Page) and the retaining wall. But the second landslip intervened before Mr Mckeen could oblige.
81The development of Mr. Liddys understanding and intention in relation to retaining walls was elucidated by Mr. Donaldson's cross-examination of him at 393.20 - 397.15T. Mr. Liddy accepted the view of his experienced boatshed builder that retaining walls were not strictly necessary, but thought he would need to comply with council's requirements in relation to them, including obtaining engineering drawings. As I have said, he knew Mr. Hyde-Page was not an engineer. He accepted Mr. Hyde-Page's advice that the retaining walls could be constructed from concrete blocks reinforced with steel and concrete as Mr. Hyde-Page had advised. Initially he was of the view that Mr. Hyde-Page could construct whatever retaining walls were necessary which had been included in the plans which council approved. Council's requirement in February 2007 that the retaining walls be flush with the east and north faces of the boatshed supports Flexible Excavation's submission that Mr. Hyde-Page, although not intending to build separate retaining walls, was of the view the reinforced walls he proposed to build would do the job.
82It wasn't until Mr. Liddy received Mr. Kelly's fax on the 25th of May 2007 and discussed it with Mr. Hyde-Page (exhibit 2D1 [106], volume 7, page 3313) that he began to fully appreciate that Mr. Hyde-Page was firm in his view that the council's requirement for retaining walls was unnecessary and that he would not be doing anything about them. This seems to me to be confirmed by the contents of Mr. Liddys fax in reply of the 25th of May 2007 requesting a site meeting with his "contractor" and the PCA to discuss matters (exhibit 2D1 [107], volume 7, pages 3313 and 3505).
83In that fax, Mr. Liddy pointed out that he did not understand that engineering plans had previously been requested, and that he had thought the geotechnical report would suffice.
84Mr. Kelly was on leave until 4th June 2007 (exhibit 2D1 [113], volume 7, page 3314). However, Mr. Liddy had already decided the previous day that he would arrange for the construction of the retaining walls through a different contractor, and, as I have said, after making enquires with Mr. Lawson arranged to meet Mr. McKeen on the site for the purpose of discussing compliance with council's requirements. This option may have been in the back of his mind since he first corresponded with council about retaining walls.
85I find that Mr. Hyde-Page was acting at all times as Mr. Liddys consultant. Specifically he actively organised and co-ordinated the excavation work carried out by Flexible Excavations in April 2007 as part of the preparation of the site. To do this Mr. Hyde-Page relied upon the geotechnical report and the approved plans, although he sought to have Flexible Excavations take responsibility for following them. However, I accept that Mr. Flexman insisted upon working in accordance with the previous practice between him and Mr. Hyde-Page and he required Mr. Hyde-Page to specify what was to be done by pegging out the excavation site and stipulating what was required by reference to more or less vertical walls with a small batter at the top. The excavation was carried out in this way under Mr. Hyde-Page's supervision and to his satisfaction. I accept he had no formal contractual arrangement at that time with Mr. Liddy, but I find that he acted in the full expectation of being appointed principal contractor, as had been previously discussed; effectively, he was the person who undertook and embarked upon the excavation work. Given the geotechnical report and his previous experience, I find that Mr. Hyde-Page saw no need for temporary support by way of shoring in relation to the excavation. Moreover, he was of the view that the lightly reinforced walls he proposed for the boatshed would suffice for retaining walls and saw no need to separately address that matter.
86At the time the excavation was undertaken and up until 3rd June, Mr. Liddy considered that what Mr. Hyde-Page had in mind would ultimately satisfy the council's requirements. He kept in the back of his mind that he would organise a separate application in relation to retaining walls, if necessary, but this did not crystalise into a definite plan of action until 3rd June 2007.
87So far as the division of roles between the Liddys on the one hand and Mr. Hyde-Page on the other is concerned, I accept that the Liddys were effectively in the role of homeowners only at the time the excavation works were carried out. To make things clear, Mr. Hyde-Page was acting as principal contractor and was the person in control of the excavation work in preparation for the commencement of the building work.