35 Such an explanation does not square with the trial judge's explanation to the applicant on 23 July 2001 of the matter comprised in the Form 1:-
"FOX: Your Honour I also present a Form 1.
LLOYD: It relates to the $9,000 your Honour, found in my client's bedroom.
FOX: It's charge of goods in possession reasonably suspected and relates to the $9,000.
HIS HONOUR: Narong Van in sentencing you to the matters you have pleaded guilty to, you ask that I take into account a further matter being in possession - sorry being on premises where there were - sorry goods in premises suspected of being stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained on 2 May 2000 which relates to the $9,000. Do you acknowledge your guilt in relation to that matter?
OFFENDER: Yes."
36 Or again on 7 September 2001:-
"SINGH: Your Honour, I also have a Form 1 to hand up which has been signed by the offender.
COLEMAN: Yes, that's correct, your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well he's already signed a Form 1.
COLEMAN: I thought he did on the last occasion.
HIS HONOUR: It doesn't refer to the $9,000. It's Canley Heights 2 May 2000 goods in premises were reasonably suspected of being stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained. He acknowledged his guilt in relation to that and I have a vague recollection that it was indicated that related to the $9,000 cash.
COLEMAN: Yes, yes, correct your Honour.
SINGH: Your Honour, maybe the Form 1 has been amended because a confiscation application is to be made. That's by consent.
COLEMAN: Yes.
SINGH: If I could rely on the Form 1 that is handed up today.
HIS HONOUR: Well then there is no objection to that being substituted for the old --
COLEMAN: Not at all your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well I will go through the formalities, nonetheless. Narong Van, in sentencing you for the matters which you pleaded guilty on indictment you asked the court to take into account a further offence knowingly that on 2 May 2000 at Canley Heights, goods in premises reasonably suspected of being stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained, being $9,000 cash in various denominations located in the side drawers within your bedroom. Do you acknowledge your guilt in relation to that matter?
OFFENDER: Yes, sir."
37 In her affidavit, his fiancée confirms the conversation with the private enquiry agent and the circumstances as related by the applicant of the entry of the plea of guilty.
38 In oral examination in chief, she asserted the private enquiry agent, in the presence of the Queen's Counsel and junior barrister, assured them the applicant would not be sentenced to gaol. She had the view the first count was dropped and the $9,000 was to be given to the Crown. In re-examination she denied being told the first charge would not be dropped and that there would undoubtedly be a gaol sentence.
39 The solicitor for the applicant has sworn an affidavit as to her attempts to contact the enquiry agent and to her lack of success in having him provide material for the appeal.
40 Mr. Lloyd, QC., the applicant's senior counsel, swore an affidavit in which he deposes to his conversations with the applicant in the present of junior counsel. He asserts that he was not privy to nor did he have any knowledge of any conversation that may have taken place between the private investigator and the applicant, although he says that it was likely to have been that person to whom he referred when he used the words "my clerk".
41 He swears that on 23 July 2001, he met the applicant in the precincts of Campbelltown Courthouse and confirmed in a detailed conference with the applicant what he had been told were the applicant's verbal instructions to the junior counsel, which were to seek to negotiate a plea of guilty to the second count in full discharge of the indictment but on the basis that, failing this, the applicant would plead guilty to both counts but only on the basis that the brief facts did not assert that he had taken the drugs to the hotel. His affidavit refers to the Crown indicating an intention to proceed on both counts to him but, preparing a statement of facts containing no assertion that the applicant had brought the drugs to the hotel. He says he had formed the view, after speaking to the applicant at some length in the presence of junior counsel, that the applicant did not need an interpreter, even though his command of English was not perfect.
42 With reference to the conference with the applicant, he gives evidence in paragraphs eight, nine, 10, 11 and 12 of his affidavit as follows:-
"8. I explained to Mr. Van that the prosecution would not drop the first count on the indictment and that as a consequence he would have to either plead guilty to it or defend the matter at trial. I showed Mr. Van the admissions made by him as reflected in the transcript of his ERISP interview with the police (in particular Q & Q's 165 to 244) and asked him if what he told the police was the truth. He confirmed it was. I advised him that his own admissions and the police observations of him made a strong case against him and that his chances of acquittal were slim.
9. I recall Mr. Van asking me what sentence he was likely to receive if he pleaded guilty. I told him it would undoubtedly be a custodial sentence and unlikely to be any less than the co-accused who had earlier pleaded guilty but that I would do my best.
10. I informed Mr. Van that the thrust of the mitigation would be his instructions to me that he was only going to the hotel to obtain from the co-accused (Aaron) the proceeds of the drug transaction and then hold the money on Aaron's behalf, but that he himself did not deliver the drugs to the hotel car park. I informed Mr. Van that I would submit that his position was lesser than that of Aaron and that he should receive concurrent sentences on both counts and a full discount for his guilty pleas. Mr. Van appeared to understand what I had told him and indicated he would plead guilty to both counts.
11. I told Mr. Van that the two counts on the indictment would be read to him in the courtroom and that he was required to say 'guilty' when this took place. I then returned to the courtroom leaving Mr. Van with Mr. Coleman.
12. At some stage later on 23 July, Mr. Van's matter was called on and Mr. Van was required to plead to the two counts. It is my clear recollection that he pleaded guilty to both counts. I have read paragraph nine of Mr. Van's affirmation. I have no particular recollection of nodding to Mr. Van. I may well have done so to indicate to Mr. Van that this was the appropriate time to enter his plea."
43 In cross-examination, he admitted the desirability of clear written instructions, he referred to his having gone through the incriminating answers in the record of interview with the applicant and having obtained a clear admission of guilt from his client. His evidence proceeded on the basis that he had advised nothing untoward and that nothing untoward had happened.
44 Mr. Coleman, junior counsel, in his affidavit gave evidence to the same effect, also that when he spoke to the applicant later on the day of arraignment and again on the day of sentence he appeared aware he was being sentenced on two charges and made no suggestion or complaint about pleading wrongly. In cross-examination, he confirmed that he had advised the applicant in detail as to the legal position before the plea of guilty was entered and that it had been entered after a change from the initial pleas of not guilty after he had negotiated successfully for the Crown to drop its contention that the applicant had brought the drugs to the meeting.