The transfer of the offender to the police station
- As police began to drive away from the deceased's premises, the offender began to scream and yell, repeatedly banging his head and fists against the inside of the caged police truck. When the truck arrived at the police station, the offender was taken into the custody area where he continued to yell, scream, throw his hands around and bang his head on the walls. After being introduced to the custody manager, the offender was placed in a cell and could be heard yelling towards police. Approximately 45 minutes later, the offender yelled out:
"Here do you want this?"
- The offender then gave police some money and a quantity of cannabis. He continued to violently thrash around in the dock at the police station, repeatedly hitting his head on the perspex wall. The offender was extremely emotional, his behaviour ranging from displaying violence and aggression, to crying uncontrollably, to pacing within the dock and jogging on the spot. This behaviour continued for some time. At about 3:45am, the offender said:
She's gone, she's gone. I don't care. I'll plead guilty, I don't care she ain't coming back. Please take the cuffs off now, I gotta start training now, no, now. I'm dead, she knows so many bikies, when they find out, I'm dead and I'm not dying for nothing, not dying for no reason. … I don't give a fuck about my rights, I'm going to goal for a long time I need to start training because I'm dead.
- At about 5:17am, the offender stood up and placed both hands on his head and said:
I remember, I remember. … I remember now, I choked her out, I killed her.
- At 5:38am, the offender said:
I'm going to have a bit of a lay down to rest to see if I can remember any more. I remember choking her out, but I don't remember stabbing her. I need to rest to see if I can remember more. I remember the knife there, but I don't remember stabbing her. I remember choking her but I can't remember why. I can't remember why I done it or what it was about I need to rest, I'm tired, but I don't think I deserve to sleep.
The record of interview
- Commencing at around 5:45am, the offender participated in an electronically recorded interview with police. Whilst I do not propose to recount the entirety of what he said, there are certain aspects of that interview which, in view of the nature of the offending, assume some importance.
- The offender was questioned about his consumption of alcohol [15] :
Q62 OK. And you've drunk alcohol in the past?
A Yeah. I've got -
Q63 So you understand -
A - bad drinking problem.
Q64 - these are events between you're -
A Yes.
Q65 - intoxicated and when you're not?
A Yep.
- When asked by police what he could tell them about the events earlier that morning, the offender said [16] :
Um, I remember us going out to the pub, where we drank, played the pokies and that. I remember I spent a bit more money than what I wanted to and I got angry and I told her I was leaving. Got in a cab, I waited for her at her place. I remember her coming home. We got into an argument. What I remember about the argument is that she told me to get the fuck out of the house, this and that. I said I was going to bed. I went into the bedroom. She come into the bedroom. She, um, pulled me out of the bed and she started pushing me down the hallway and that, told me to get out. Said I wasn't gettin' out. I hopped into the, um, kitchen and I remember, um, when I hopped into the kitchen, she pulled out the knife and she, like, didn't go to attack me but sort of, like, went to get me with it, threatened me to get out. I then, um, spun her around, grabbed her in a choker hold where I think I choked her out until she passed out. I want to say that I stabbed her but I don't remember stabbin' her, but I do that when I drink, I black out shit. I think it's like a personal defence. But I'm gunna say, go ahead and say that I did it. 'Cause I remember chokin' her out, so I'm gunna say that I did it. And I don't know why. I don't know why the ..... I don't know what we were fightin' over, I don't, I remember, like, yeah, I know, like, we were, the gamblin' and that, but I don't know why I did what I did ..... I don't know why I did what I did. And I'm not just saying that I don't care, I'll rot in gaol for the rest of my life. I don't care. And tell the Judge that, too. I want my maximum. I don't care. How do you murder the love of your life? I'm not, I'll never be able to speak to her or see her ever again. I don't ever want to get out of gaol. I don't ever want to get out of gaol. You know fuck if there was a firing squad in this country, I'd say, Shoot me now. Solve fuckin' problems, man. I don't know how to live with what I done. I didn't even think, like, I just did a domestic violence course and fuckin' they talked about this shit, you know. They said it happens in the bathroom or whatever.... 'cause that's the only place with a lock on the door. I didn't think I'd be this statistic, you know. Always thought I was better than, but obviously not. Just a piece of shit. Just ..... that's all I got to say.
- The offender was then asked how intoxicated he thought he was at the time, to which he responded [17] :
I was pretty drunk, yeah. I'm a bad drunk too.
- According to the offender's account of events [18] , he had walked into the bedroom of the premises when the deceased grabbed a knife from a kitchen drawer and threatened to stab him [19] . He agreed that he was not permitted to be at the deceased's premises and was then asked [20] :
Q316 Why is that?
A There was an AVO.
Q317 And what are the conditions for that?
A Police put it on saying that I'm not allowed to go round there 'cause he
had allegations that I smashed windows, which I never smashed.
Q318 So the AVO is so - - -
A I was found not guilty, but the AVO was placed on because I told the Judge at the time, we weren't together so I didn't care that the AVO was there.
- The offender went on to explain [21] that he put the deceased "in a choker" which he explained in the following terms [22] :
- I grabbed her, spun her around, grabbed her by the neck, dropped her to the ground, wrapped my legs around her legs, stretched her out.
- The offender explained to the police [23] that this had cut off the deceased's circulation, causing her to lose consciousness.
- When questioned further about what he could remember about the incident, the offender said the following [24] :
Q348 So do you remember being - - -
A - trying to ring the police.
Q349 - - - on the floor - - -
A I remember choking her out.
Q350 [06:15] - - - choke-holding her?
A Now this is when I said I remember doing it now.
Q351 Yep. OK. And what's the very next thing you remember, then?
A Holding her ribs.
Q352 OK. Where? How is, how is this happening?
A I don't know, I just had a tea towel and I just brought her towards me, I dragged her towards me and I was just telling her how sorry I was.
Q353 Yep.
A And - - -
Q354 D, describe it to me, though, 'cause the last thing you remember is
you're underneath her.
A . I was, yeah, I had her -
Q355 Yep.
A - in the choker hold or whatever and then -
Q356 What's, what's the very next thing? How did you get up?
A I just, I don't know.
Q357 OK.
A I just remember just, I was holding her, then, like, I don't know. Like,
there was smudge mark or I just remember seeing the smudge mark. I remember the knife sitting under the basin, like, just next to the basin on the floor -
Q358 Yep.
A - and I just remember grabbing a tea towel and just telling her how
sorry I was and she said that she forgives me, it's OK.
Q359 OK. And you said you dragged her?
A I just brought her close to me
Q360 OK. So when you put the tea towel on her, what position was
she in?
A She was laying on her back -
Q361 Yep.
A - and I brought her just laying up, like, in between my legs and onto my chest and I was just hugging her and holding her, ringing, trying to ring the police
Q362 OK.
A And I couldn't get through on my phone.
Q363 All right. So where'd you get the tea towel from?
A I don't know, I just -
Q364 OK.
A --- had it
Q365 So you're holding your left side of your ribs there. Is that where you were holding her?
A Yeah, I was hold that ---
Q366 And she's on top of you there.
A --- holding her around here.
Q367 Yep. So she, there was some type of injury there?
A Yes, in her ribs, yeah.
Q368 So what were you trying to do there?
A Hold the blood in.
Q369 OK. All right. And was she saying anything?
A Yeah, she was telling me it's OK and she forgives me ---
Q370 OK.
A --- she loves me. I just told her how scared I was, how sorry I am.
Q371 Yep. What were you sorry for?
A For hurting her.
Q372 How'd you hurt her?
A I'm assuming I stabbed her. But I have this thing, like, I'm just, and I'm not making it up, like, I'm telling you, sometimes, like, if I do bad shit, I just black it out, like, when I get drinkin' and shit, when I'm drunk. But I think I just gunna say that I stabbed her. I don't remember 100 per cent doing it, but I know that I done it.
Q373 You only have to say anything what you actually remember.
A Yeah.
Q374 We don't need you - - -
A Yeah.
Q375 - to, like, guess.
A Yeah.
Q376 All right? I'm not trying to get you to say anything.
A Well, I choked her out, next minute she's got a stab wound in her and
I'm holdin' her.
Q377 Was there anyone else in the house?
A Nuh, it was just me and her.
- The offender was then asked about his reaction to alcohol [25] :
A … But, like I said, when I drink, I think it's, like, a defence mechanism for meself, I do black out the bad shit that I do.
Q413 Has that happened before?
A Sort of a way, so, like, yeah, like, plenty of times, I've, got, yeah,
problems and that -
Q414 Can you give me an example?
A I don't know, any, any time something bad happens to me, I black out,
I just don't remember it's happened. I don't know. I've broken my hand and I've punched shit, I don't remember.
Q415 Mmm.
A I've woken up, broken hands -
Q416 Mmm.
A - splits across my head, 'cause I've fuckin' bottled meself, or -
Q417 Mmm.
A - I head butt concrete, shit like that.
Q418 Uh-huh.
A Just a weirdo … But I never remember doing it, you know.
Q419 Why do you do those things?
A I don't know, I'm just ..crazy.
Q420 Is it anger or, uh, you're upset or -
A It's not anger because when I'm sober I'm fine. Happy as when I'm
sober. It's just the drunk
Q421 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, when you're drinking, is that - - -
A It's just the - - -
Q422 - an issue for you?
A - yeah, I'm going through a ..... program right now.
Q423 Yeah.
A I haven't had a drink in a while.
Q424 Mmm.
A I wasn't supposed to drink, you know, like, we'd told each other we
weren't going to drink anymore. And it's just unfortunately, it's like, the first time we've drank together and - - -
Q425 Yep.
A and, like, we were going through court and that, to get the AVO
lifted, so we could actually start doing things legally.
Q426 Yep.
A Like I said to youse before, no AVO was ever going to keep me away
from her, like -
Q427 Yeah.
A - it's hard to explain, like, I don't know, youse could track down our messages and shit, I guess, like asked my dad, I wasn't with her, I felt sick, seriously, like, I don't know if youse have ever had that feeling with someone, like, I get withdrawals, like, I feel sick. It's probably not healthy. She says the same shit, but, like, that's how I feel, I couldn't be away from her.
- The offender was then asked about the history of his relationship with the deceased [26] :
Q447 So what's, what's your relationship with Sarah like in general, what's the history been like?
A Pretty rocky.
Q448 Yep. And what---
A When we're sober, we're good.
Q449 OK. So alcohol's an issue.
A Alcohol's an issue
Q450 OK.
A sober
Q451 Yep.
A ---no problem .....
- Finally, the offender was asked why he had applied a choke hold to the deceased [27] :
Q481 Um, why did you put her in the chokehold?
A (NO AUDIBLE REPLY)
Q482 Not sure, uh, what did you think that would achieve, like -
A I honestly wasn't thinking, and if I was, I don't know.
Q483 OK.
A I was just, I don't know, I just remember doing it.
Q484 Um, have you ever put anyone in a chokehold before, like that, 'cause
it's quite specific, what you were doing?
A Yeah, like, training and that.
Q485 Training, yeah, what type of training?
A Brazilian Jujitsu.
Q486 OK. How often do you do that?
A I don't anymore.
Q487 Oh, you don't anymore.
A I, I don't know, about a year or something.
Q488 OK. Um, and what generally happens when you put someone in a
chokehold?
A Pass out.
Q489 Yeah, do you know how long you have to hold someone for them to
pass out?
A Depends how tight you're holding their throat. Probably about 15, 20
seconds.
Q490 OK. And what happens when that happens?
A They lose consciousness.
The medical evidence
- The cause of the deceased's death was a stab wound to the left anterior abdominal wall. The wound track proceeded medially, backwards and downwards. It perforated the skin and subcutaneous tissue of the left anterior abdominal wall, incised loops of the small bowel and transected the abdominal aorta and inferior vena cava immediately before its bifurcation. There were resultant retroperitoneal haemorrhages (accumulation of blood found in the retroperitoneal space), pneumoperitoneum (abnormal presence of air or other gas in the peritoneal cavity), haemoperitoneum (1000 mL) (presence of blood in the peritoneal cavity) and features of hypovolemic shock secondary to blood loss (pale organs and subendocardial haemorrhages in the head).
- There was a further stab wound to the deceased's left anterior chest wall. The wound track proceeded medially, backwards and downwards. It perforated the skin and subcutaneous tissue of the left anterior chest wall and fractured the 3rd left rib.
- There was also a focal haemorrhage over the pericardium and injuries to right hand, including:
1. superficial sharp trauma to the fingers of the right hand;
2. a 6mm superficial incision to the dorsum of the right thumb;
3. an 11 mm superficial incision to the dorsum of the right index finger; and
4. a 3mm puncture wound to the palmar surface at the base of the right little finger.
- There were signs of neck compression in the form of abrasions and bruising to both sides of the neck and to the rami of the mandible. In addition, there were facial, oral and conjunctival petechial haemorrhages. There was focal bruising to the platysma muscle and submandibular gland on the right. There were no cervical spine injuries. There were no fractures of the hyoid bone, cricoid cartilage or thyroid cartilage.
- On right side of neck, there was a wound that consisted of a linear bruise that lay over the sternocleidomastoid muscle, and a horizontal abrasion that extended to the anterior midline and then dipped inferiorly. The total area involved was 80 x 70mm. The linear bruise was approximately 60 x 10mm. The horizontal abrasion in its entirety was 50 x 20mm. The inferior component was 10mm wide and extended 30mm inferiorly. There were petechial bruises over the thyroid cartilage in the midline.
- On the left side of the neck, there was a broad band of abrasion and bruising that had a semi-circular configuration. The total surface area involved was 50 x 60mm. The superior bruise was 40 x 30mm and the inferior abrasion was 50 x 10mm.
- There was bruising 5-10mm over the proximal end of the left clavicle and over the sternal notch, along with numerous other bruises and lacerations to the face, both arms, thighs, shins and feet. These included:
1. a 30 x 10mm bruise to the left forehead;
2. a 5mm bruise to the right earlobe;
3. a 20 x 35mm bruise to the nasal bridge with associated petechial haemorrhages;
4. a 20mm bruise to the left nostril;
5. a bruise to the left lower lip;
6. a 6 x 10mm bruise to the right chin;
7. a linear 20mm bruise to the undersurface of the chin in the midline;
8. a 20 x 10mm bruise to the upper eyelid on the left;
9. a 5mm bruise below the left eye;
10. a 30 x 20mm bruise to the rami of the mandible on the right;
11. a 30mm bruise to the rami of the mandible on the left;
12. a 20 x 15mm bruise immediately inferior to the angle of the jaw on the left;
13. subcutaneous haemorrhages to the chin and over the rami of the mandible on the right and left side;
14. a 30 x 20mm bruise to the right forearm;
15. 10 x 20mm bruising to the flexor surface of the left forearm;
16. a 10mm bruise to the dorsum of the left forearm;
17. a 40 x 60mm area of bruising over the left elbow;
18. a 60mm linear bruise to left triceps area;
19. subcutaneous haemorrhages corresponding to external bruises;
20. a 60 x 30mm bruise to the right thigh;
21. a 15mm bruise to the proximal part of right shin;
22. a 20mm bruise to the distal part of right shin;
23. a 90 x 30mm bruise, a 15mm abrasion, and an accompanying bruise, to the right foot;
24. a 10mm linear abrasion to the medial surface of right shin;
25. a 100 x 50mm area of bruising to left ankle and foot;
26. three 20-30mm bruises to the left shin;
27. a 30mm bruise to the left shin;
28. a 50 x 30mm bruise to the left hip;
29. a 10mm laceration to the medial surface of the left thigh;
30. a 15mm bruise to medial surface of the left thigh;
31. a 17mm superficial incision of the right big toe;
32. a 9mm superficial incision over the right medial malleolus; and
33. subcutaneous haemorrhages corresponding to external bruising.