"COUNSEL]: That's what he told - my instructions are that's what he told Mr Newton that the car wasn't running at the time.
HIS HONOUR: That's not the way it's reported in the report, as I perceive it, because Mr Newton, no doubt as you will have seen, puts great - pays great heed to this so called attempt at suicide as demonstrating a whole range of things and if that's his interpretation, it appears to me to be at odds with what you put to me last occasion and at odds with what you're putting now."
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"[COUNSEL]: I'm seeking to obtain some information from
Mr Newton in relation to that and perhaps I won't take that any further at this stage. But I do note, Your Honour, that in any event, the prisoner had gone to the various steps that he had - now, whether ultimately he didn't go through with it, in my submission it is still a significant circumstance.
HIS HONOUR: Significant in what way?
[COUNSEL]: In terms of - - -
HIS HONOUR: How does it mitigate - if that's what you're seeking to put - how does it mitigate in defending? How is it a significant factor that you're putting? I don't follow.
[COUNSEL]: In relation to how he viewed his offending and how he viewed - - -
HIS HONOUR: How does one know that it was as a result of a sudden stab of remorse that he's committed these crimes, and I can't face the world having breached the trust of my friends, I will go and commit suicide. In that scenario it might be a significant mitigating factor. On the other hand, if a person thinks that the lifestyle that he was used to and his family was used to was all over, and all his deceptive conduct and abuse of trust had come to light, and no more could he carry on with his fraud, then he might think well, how can I put up with this? I will do what I think is appropriate in the circumstances. In the second scenario, is that a mitigating factor in some way? Is it demonstrative of any remorse?
[COUNSEL]: No, in my submission the second scenario being put, as I understand what Your Honour says is simply, well, I can't lead a grand lifestyle any more, so I will - - -
HIS HONOUR: I've been shown up, I've been caught out, therefore I feel sorry for the fact that I lost my lifestyle, lost the capacity to have the beach house at Sorrento and the lifestyle that went with it, and I can no longer pretend that I'm this successful businessman, the game is up.
[COUNSEL]: In my submission, and regardless of what Mr Newton was told, various aspects of what Mr Newton has to say are relevant on that point, in that to some degree there is an overlap between those two scenarios in that I've let everyone down, I've let my family down, I've let that façade that Mr Newton talks about, that the prisoner seems to have been incapable of letting go, the façade of a successful businessman has been lost, it would appear that plays a part as well.
HIS HONOUR: What I am seeking to find out from what you are putting to me is what is it significant of. Now you haven't put to me thus far, unless I have missed it, it may be that I've missed it and you will no doubt remind me, but for example, on behalf of your client thus far, and it may be that you are going to make additional submissions now, but thus far you haven't put that he is able to claim in mitigation remorse.
[COUNSEL]: I will be submitting that, Your Honour, but I won't be placing great weight on this incident in April of 2004, and I will be turning to matters which I say allow Your Honour to make a finding that he is remorseful." (My emphasis)